October 5, 20215 yr Recently published study (so not necessarily peer reviewed, I'll give that caveat even if others don't): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015 The goal here was to determine if there are longer term side effects of mRNA vaccines. The short of it is: there aren't. It studied negative effects within the first three weeks after vaccine to any effects subsequently and found no more likelihood of negative effects 4-6 weeks out vs 1-3.
October 5, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Lloyd said: So it's easier for you to believe that our health system is withholding life-saving treatment, and extending a costly and deadly pandemic rather than believing that you just might be wrong? It's not a matter of easy, it's a matter of the truth. Is it easier for you to believe that our entire way of life should be disrupted and destroyed by a virus with a survival rate in excess of 99%? Shall I mention the number of ways? Locking down the healthy - effectively putting them under house arrest? Shuttering numerous businesses? Denying treatment during the early stages of this to people with sicknesses other than Covid because hospitals were closed? Massive government handouts to individuals and businesses as a result of lockdowns and lockouts causing significant inflation that shows no signs of abating? This is for starters - but hey, you go trust politicians. Go ahead. They're honest and have our best interests at heart. They'd never sell out to special interests . . .
October 5, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Recently published study (so not necessarily peer reviewed, I'll give that caveat even if others don't): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015 The goal here was to determine if there are longer term side effects of mRNA vaccines. The short of it is: there aren't. It studied negative effects within the first three weeks after vaccine to any effects subsequently and found no more likelihood of negative effects 4-6 weeks out vs 1-3. Yah, let's conclude there are no LONG TERM EFFECTS from a vaccine that's been in use for LESS THAN A YEAR and already requires boosters. But hey, there's an internet link, so it must be true . . .
October 5, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Lol. You named your imaginary friend Simon. Lmao. Yah, he's imaginary. That's the ticket . . . 50 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: That's what it means to be MAGA. It's a full on repudiation of Occam's Razor and detachment from reality. Hey - how's your kid doing? Hope he/she's okay and fully recovered.
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Yah, let's conclude there are no LONG TERM EFFECTS from a vaccine that's been in use for LESS THAN A YEAR and already requires boosters. But hey, there's an internet link, so it must be true . . . In addition to the link, my buddies Eugene, Sheldon and Calton all confirmed this is legit.
October 5, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, he's imaginary. That's the ticket . . . So by using that meme you are acknowledging you made Simon up? Because that character was always making things up in those skits.
October 5, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: So by using that meme you are acknowledging you made Simon up? Because that character was always making things up in those skits.
October 5, 20215 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Recently published study (so not necessarily peer reviewed, I'll give that caveat even if others don't): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015 The goal here was to determine if there are longer term side effects of mRNA vaccines. The short of it is: there aren't. It studied negative effects within the first three weeks after vaccine to any effects subsequently and found no more likelihood of negative effects 4-6 weeks out vs 1-3. Wow a whole six weeks? What a great long term study!
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Yup another fraud. You got nothing as usual. Go ahead, post it again.
October 5, 20215 yr Just now, Boogyman said: Yup another fraud. You got nothing as usual. Go ahead, post it again. How's your anti-mask family doing with the flu outbreak? I hope you didn't spread anything to the high risk folks out there, you inconsiderate jerk!
October 5, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, let's conclude there are no LONG TERM EFFECTS from a vaccine that's been in use for LESS THAN A YEAR and already requires boosters. But hey, there's an internet link, so it must be true . . .
October 5, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: How's your anti-mask family doing with the flu outbreak? I hope you didn't spread anything to the high risk folks out there, you inconsiderate jerk! We all stayed home while sick like a person should. Also stop trying so hard. It's a pretty bad look.
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I see common sense is not your strong point. Repeat after me - you can not accurately assess long term effects before a long term has passed. See, it's not that complicated, is it??
October 5, 20215 yr 27 minutes ago, DiPros said: Ted Nugent called me a sheep. How will I ever get over it? LOL Coming from someone who was diagnosed with a serious disease and is doing well I'm here to tell you it's all a crap shoot. Seen it with covid too. Perfectly healthy people getting really sick, and some have died. What I don't understand is people absolutely digging in their heels and not listening to logic. Vaccines have ALWAYS been the way out of epidemics and pandemics. It's really discouraging to see such division. I'd also like to say I have no issue hearing about different treatment options. I totally get that. When you're sick and in danger of dying you will try anything. It's a survival instinct. That's not what's happening here though. Not even close. Sad. I'm tired of being sad. It's really not that crazy when you think about it. mRNA vaccines have never before been used in humans. Historically, vaccines take a decade to develop. These were rolled out in like 12 months. Despite the insanely sensationalized media coverage that highlights every single rare instance a young, healthy person dies of the disease, the chances of someone my age and fitness level catching it and even being hospitalized are incredibly slim much less dying. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I think anyone who is getting up there in years or anyone who is a tub of lard should get it. High risk individuals should definitely get it. That's why I support most of you all getting it. I just want to see some of the basics answered before I get it. Like, how long does the shot last? How long would the booster last? Does the booster cause any or more adverse reactions than the initial shot(s)? Is this a twice a year commitment for the rest of my life? You know, basic anti-vaxx questions.
October 5, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: We all stayed home while sick like a person should. Also stop trying so hard. It's a pretty bad look. LOL one post is trying too hard, while you follow people around in CVON like a little cuck b!tch
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: LOL one post is trying too hard, while you follow people around in CVON like a little cuck b!tch It's more the feeble attempt than the quantity. But other than that, awesome!
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: We all stayed home while sick like a person should. Also stop trying so hard. It's a pretty bad look. Your wife looked bad when I had sex with her last night. In her V. 7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: How's your anti-mask family doing with the flu outbreak? I hope you didn't spread anything to the high risk folks out there, you inconsiderate jerk! Imagine being an ishlib who jerks it to Fauci pressers and catching the effing flu. How many tenets of his religion did he violate to catch the thing that's almost been completely eradicated by masks and social distancing?
October 5, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: Your wife looked bad when I had sex with her last night. In her V. In her V? No way! Did she look really bad though? Like, bad bad?
October 5, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Imagine being an ishlib who jerks it to Fauci pressers and catching the effing flu. How many tenets of his religion did he violate to catch the thing that's almost been completely eradicated by masks and social distancing? Yeah I should have avoid that flu. Next time I'll duck, or dodge and roll to the left. When I say trying way to hard, these are the things I'm talking about.
October 5, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: In her V? No way! Did she look really bad though? Like, bad bad? Yeah, she's a total dog face/body wise. Just disgusting, really.
October 5, 20215 yr "Young healthy people don't need to get vaccinated because the risks are not worth it..."
October 5, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, Kz! said: It's really not that crazy when you think about it. mRNA vaccines have never before been used in humans. Historically, vaccines take a decade to develop. These were rolled out in like 12 months. Despite the insanely sensationalized media coverage that highlights every single rare instance a young, healthy person dies of the disease, the chances of someone my age and fitness level catching it and even being hospitalized are incredibly slim much less dying. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I think anyone who is getting up there in years or anyone who is a tub of lard should get it. High risk individuals should definitely get it. That's why I support most of you all getting it. I just want to see some of the basics answered before I get it. Like, how long does the shot last? How long would the booster last? Does the booster cause any or more adverse reactions than the initial shot(s)? Is this a twice a year commitment for the rest of my life? You know, basic anti-vaxx questions. They have been in development for awhile now. They were used in humans. How else would they complete the clinical trials to get it approved? Those humans are the real heroes. At this point, with millions of us vaccinated without adverse reactions, how some still want to conclude its safety is suspect to me. I do realize there have been some medications approved by studies and the FDA which later were discontinued, but I don't see that happening here. At least you are following the science with your age and health status as good.
October 5, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: Yeah I should have avoid that flu. Next time I'll duck, or dodge and roll to the left. When I say trying way to hard, these are the things I'm talking about. Someone definitely didn't try too hard in English class. lmfao, effing moron.
October 5, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, Procus said: I see common sense is not your strong point. Repeat after me - you can not accurately assess long term effects before a long term has passed. See, it's not that complicated, is it?? It's clear you have no idea how vaccines work, let along mRNA vaccines. Going back at least to the polio vaccine, there have been zero long-term side effects associated with vaccinations. mRNA is incredibly fragile, which is why despite the fact that they've been studies since the early 90s they have only just recently become viable for use in this setting. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines both break down incredibly quickly, and last only long enough to help train the body to produce antibodies that will attack COVID. The vaccine literally does not exist in the body for long enough for there to be any long term side effects. It does not manipulate DNA , It does not do anything other than train the immune system. This is what vaccines do: they are catalysts for increased natural defenses against maladies. If you always want to fall back to this "well we just don't know!!" nonsense then it's clear you're not following science, you've got a conclusion and you're selecting information and reports - no matter how questionable the source (OAN and Project Veritas ) - that fit that. Then claiming any other reporting is the actually biased reports. You're a fraud. A moron. At best you're a bad troll.
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