What a Fing game by embiid. Need to wear the city edition jersey more even though they are ugly lol

 

Embiid boosted his trade value tonight. 

 

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Embiid boosted his trade value tonight. 

What we talked about earlier today I could totally see them saying to themselves with embiid playing like that and they get James Harden of what he look like so far that that adding Kevin Durant would give them a chance to win a title this year and next year. And they would totally do it. I could totally see them thinking that.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What we talked about earlier today I could totally see them saying to themselves with embiid playing like that and they get James Harden of what he look like so far that that adding Kevin Durant would give them a chance to win a title this year and next year. And they would totally do it. I could totally see them thinking that.

yeah me too. 

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah me too. 

What is the best package they could offer? I don't see it ever as being the best offer. 

55 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

What is the best package they could offer? I don't see it ever as being the best offer. 

I think the bigger story is if the Nets are willing to trade him for anything less than a great package. The suns aren’t gonna give Mikal Bridges in the Trade. So the best they can offer is Cam Johnson, ayton and picks. I don’t think that does it for the Nets. Miami the best player they can include is Tyler Herro, and a bunch of role players with picks. Toronto can give them pascal Siakam and OG and picks. The best player they might have been able to get was Jaylen Brown if it were true that the Celtics offered them Jaylen Brown. If that was true, then it’s a Fing dumb for not taking it immediately. I get it’s Kevin Durant but you’re not gonna get a two-way player who is capable of being a consistent All-Star like Jaylen Brown who’s young from almost any other team making this trade.

 

Maxey's breakdown of Embiid's performance tonight was as good of a post game analysis as I've ever heard. 

"Joel Embiid is very good at basketball,” Maxey said. "I mean, there’s nothing else I can really say about it. He’s just really good at basketball.”

Wilt was ridiculous 

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the bigger story is if the Nets are willing to trade him for anything less than a great package. The suns aren’t gonna give Mikal Bridges in the Trade. So the best they can offer is Cam Johnson, ayton and picks. I don’t think that does it for the Nets. Miami the best player they can include is Tyler Herro, and a bunch of role players with picks. Toronto can give them pascal Siakam and OG and picks. The best player they might have been able to get was Jaylen Brown if it were true that the Celtics offered them Jaylen Brown. If that was true, then it’s a Fing dumb for not taking it immediately. I get it’s Kevin Durant but you’re not gonna get a two-way player who is capable of being a consistent All-Star like Jaylen Brown who’s young from almost any other team making this trade.

They will want draft picks as well, a lot of them

Push comes to shove and Booker and Paul want KD, then bye Bridges. 

Pelicans can offer Ingram and a crap load of picks 

Grizzlies have all their picks, a bunch of expirings and young guys

Thunder can offer Chet and picks if they decide they want to compete with SGA playing like an All Pro 

Trailblazers can offer Sharpe, Hart, picks 

Warriors had talks about it over the summer and Klay is done. They got young guys 

24 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

They will want draft picks as well, a lot of them

Push comes to shove and Booker and Paul want KD, then bye Bridges. 

Pelicans can offer Ingram and a crap load of picks 

Grizzlies have all their picks, a bunch of expirings and young guys

Thunder can offer Chet and picks if they decide they want to compete with SGA playing like an All Pro 

Trailblazers can offer Sharpe, Hart, picks 

Warriors had talks about it over the summer and Klay is done. They got young guys 

The suns woukdve already moved bridges if that were the case. They don’t want too at any cost. I live out here and have some good connections in the suns and one who uses to work with the suns and still very in touch with the organization. They aren’t moving bridges especially not right now with the nets not having a great market and in the situation they are and how good the suns are playing. I can tell you the suns do not want to give up bridges. Their best offer was ayton, cam, crowder and picks. Along with taking back harris.

i don’t think the pelicans want to deal Ingram. We can keep saying they’ll trade Ingram and yet he’s always still there. And there’s players who we continuously keep connecting them trading him for. They can but that doesn’t mean they will. I think with having the lakers pick they envision Ingram, Zion and Wembanyama as a possibility  and I’m guessing the nets ask for that pick in a deal 

grizzlies could. They are a team who has ammo. I just don’t see them making that move when they sitting where they are. I think it’s more realistic in the offseason if this group failed again. I think they still believe in the group they have as constructed and giving a young team another run in the postseason  

Okc isn’t doing that deal and Fing up their potential chances at Wembanyama 

blazers are interesting. However I’m not sure sharpe, hart and picks gets that done. If jaylen brown and picks weren’t I’m guessing that’s not cutting it either. I’m guessing the nets ask for Simons and Sharpe based off turning down brown and picks  

Can’t trade some of the young guys as poole just signed an extension so he’s out of it. Would wiseman, moody and kuminga get it done? Possible but that offer isn’t going anywhere. Frankly if ayton didn’t move the needle for them I’m doubting wiseman adds all that much value to them as his contract has 1 year left before they have to pay him or move on and he’s been injury prone. 

I just don’t see the Nets moving him unless they get a package. This is blowing them away. Frankly, I don’t think Tyrese Maxey and whatever else the Sixers put in that deal is gonna be enough either. I think the Nets or content I’m just letting Kevin Durant play out this year of his contract and then reassess the situation next offseason 

 

Well that would be full blown retarded if you don't move Bridges the guy who got wrecked by Luka for KD. Bridges is not young, he is 26 already and his numbers have now gone stagent on the offensive end. Even Barkley said they would be idiots not to trade him 

Sga and Giddy are already taking them out of the Wemby lottery. If they sit SGA I bet he asks to be traded. 

We both would trade Ingram for KD and really isn't a discussion 

Simons, Sharpe and Hart blown out anything Philly can offer. 

I personally think all 3 of the Warriors young guys aren't that good and Warriors are in real trouble. Klay is dead, Poole can't play defense, DG is just a defender at this point 

Grizzlies have Dillion Brookes on expiring, Danny Green, and other young players plus all their picks Warriors 2024 pick 

Nets are going to want picks more than anything because they gave all theirs away to the Rockets. KD is a top 10 to 15 player of all time, you unload all your ammo to get him especially how he playing this season 

Call it retarded or whatever you want. I know they don’t want to move him. Hence why they’d be ok taking back harris contract in the deal to not do it. They don’t want too. They feel like their package with ayton is good enough and no one has really upped their offer. I’d trade bridges in a heartbeat for Durant but they refusing to. It’s why a deal didn’t get done during the offseason. 

OKC is 6-7 and 10th in the west and currently slotted roughly 9th in the nba draft lottery with teams like golden state, nets, bulls, twolves, heat going to pass them at some point. Okc could wind up going on a losing streak more into the season and find themselves 5-6 with a shot to get Wembanyama. They aren’t doing a KD trade. I’d bet anything on that they won’t and I’m not sure how the dynamic works of KD going back there after all that history. I do think they’d be part of a 3 way deal with KD going elsewhere where they get value in that deal 

id trade Ingram for KD. However I’d be willing to guess the only way the nets do it is if they get that lakers pick so they have a shot at Wembanyama. I don’t see the pelicans giving up that pick. That pick and Ingram i think gets it done for the nets. The other picks pelicans have aren’t nearly as great as that one has the chance to be due to Wem. The nets should take Ingram but they turned down jaylen brown, other players and picks. So what makes you think Ingram alone with other lesser picks gets it done? I don’t see that being enough for the nets. They’d want that lakers pick this year included  

sharpe, Simons, hart and picks would be the best package they probably get from any team at the moment. Don’t know if the blazers are willing to give up sharpe and Simons though. I suggested it doesn’t mean they are willing to unload them. I think that would be a nice haul for the nets. It’s what I’d shoot for. 

Grizzlies picks are going to be bottom first. Not sure that moves the needle for nets in terms of picks.  the expiring contracts are nice. Warriors pick might be good. It might also still be early to mid 20s. Again i don’t see the grizzlies making the move until the offseason cause i think they believe they are capable of winning it with the team they have now and giving them another shot. I think it makes more sense if they begin to stumble or really the offseason

I’m not as down on the warriors. It’s still way too early in the season. It’s 13 games. Frankly think they eventually turn it around. Maybe not title wise but i think make the playoffs as a 4-6 seed. I think the warriors will make moves to make the team more competitive in 2024 if they go down this year especially with not owning their 2024 pick

i think you are viewing it as we’d unloaded everything. Teams don’t when they know other teams aren’t willing to do so right now and the nets are in a holding pattern as no one has upped the ante. Plus some teams aren’t desperate yet. I think that’s what the nets are hoping for as the season continues onward. I know the suns aren’t willing with bridges for that reason (besides wanting to just keep him at all costs) 

What makes you think the Heat or T Wolves will pass them this year? Heat go 7 deep and are all older so injuries will happen. T Wolves hate each other already and no where close to looking like a playoff team. 

On one hand you think the Pelicans have to give up Ingram and Lakers pick, then next paragraph think the Blazers haul is what they should aim for. And you also say you don't know if Blazers are willing to give up Simons and Sharpe for KD. Which is it because right now your all over the map with valuation of players 

Sixers have exactly one assetand it is dumb to think that gets it done. 6'2" combo guards don't win rings especially ones that aren't exactly good defenders. 

Any team that wants KD will have to lose all their picks for a while and young assets. Jazz got this for Rudy and Nets will get more KD

Timberwolves receive:

• Rudy Gobert

Jazz receive:

• Malik Beasley
• Patrick Beverley
• Leandro Bolmaro
• Walker Kessler (No. 22 pick in 2022 Draft)
• Jarred Vanderbilt
• 2023 first-round pick
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick
• 2029 first-round pick

Interesting

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Joel Embiid only recently returned to the Philadelphia 76ers after an illness. Now, the All-Star big man is dealing with multiple injuries.

Embiid tweaked his ankle in the Sixers win over the Atlanta Hawks on Saturday night. When asked if he'd be ok to play in the team's back-to-back against the Utah Jazz on Sunday, Embiid said that was hope.

"I plan on playing but I'm going to see how it reacts tomorrow," Embiid said about his ankle. "It's pretty sore."

The star center said he's also dealing with a painful shoulder injury.

"I don't know what happened but some days I can't lift my arm up," Embiid said when asked about grabbing his shoulder throughout the Hawks game. "When I block shots, I really feel it. I don't what's going on."

Embiid is also still working through conditioning issues. He was unable to work out for most of the offseason due to plantar fasciitis. When he seemed to be rounding into shape, Embiid was sidelined due to illness. 

 

Positive angle- He still had that game he last last night with all that stuff going on.

Negative angle- He is already in such bad shape this early in the season. No way he is going to keep up those performances throughout the whole season and post-season. 

how bad was tobi last night?  him missing a point blank layup & the "easy" follow up were classic tobias   

52 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

What makes you think the Heat or T Wolves will pass them this year? Heat go 7 deep and are all older so injuries will happen. T Wolves hate each other already and no where close to looking like a playoff team. 

On one hand you think the Pelicans have to give up Ingram and Lakers pick, then next paragraph think the Blazers haul is what they should aim for. And you also say you don't know if Blazers are willing to give up Simons and Sharpe for KD. Which is it because right now your all over the map with valuation of players 

Sixers have exactly one assetand it is dumb to think that gets it done. 6'2" combo guards don't win rings especially ones that aren't exactly good defenders. 

Any team that wants KD will have to lose all their picks for a while and young assets. Jazz got this for Rudy and Nets will get more KD

Timberwolves receive:

• Rudy Gobert

Jazz receive:

• Malik Beasley
• Patrick Beverley
• Leandro Bolmaro
• Walker Kessler (No. 22 pick in 2022 Draft)
• Jarred Vanderbilt
• 2023 first-round pick
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick
• 2029 first-round pick

I have more faith in the heat turning it around. It’s 13 games in and somehow declaring them over with. I highly doubt pat riley is sitting there just going to take that. Not even a quarter of the way through lol. Twolves maybe you are right. However they are a game behind them. So not that unthinkable. Also Okc team that knows they aren’t ready for Durant and aren’t good enough even with Durant to compete for a title and give up the capital they built for a guy who’s on the back end of his career. It makes no sense for them to get KD when they aren’t in position right now to compete for a title with and give up the assets in doing so for 34 year old KD. By the time they get to the point of being a true title contender with KD, he is likely declined so give up those assets now? They aren’t ready. You are willing to anoint the Okc as they’d make that type of move now but tell me heat with proven track record is incapable of turning it around after 13 games with the same record as OKC. The jazz are 10-5, I’d bet they regress at some point and ainge will make sure of it. they haven’t even played a Quarter of the season or gotten to Xmas but you are telling me heat, warriors are in a trouble and possibly can’t turn things around but Okc wont plummet or regress like in previous years? Heck SGA hasn’t stayed healthy and played 60 games in the last 2 seasons. I don’t think either is likely but I’d be more surprised if they dealt for KD then if they dealt away SGA. There were rumors last year they might try and deal SGA. And rumors now he is frustrated wants out cause they are continuing on with their tank. 

First i think the pelicans would have to give up that lakers pick and Ingram to get it done as that’s what the nets would require to do it. REASON: the nets apparently didn’t accept the offer jaylen brown, players and picks. So if the pelicans just included other picks and ingram they likely shoot that down as it’s very similar to what Boston offered  

** that lakers pick holds great value currently. Has a chance to be Wembanyama. During the draft lottery (also if the lakers turn it around) if that pick doesn’t win the lottery and convey to the no. 1 pick it massively loses value. Imo i think pelicans would value the potential of getting a young generation prospect of Wem and Ingram over KD  

second i said that’s what I’d aim for. Doesn’t mean that’s what they are going to get or what I’d get. two big differences. I can aim for that doesnt mean I’m getting that back from those teams especially when teams aren’t upping the ante of what they are offering from this summer at the moment. I’m guessing it’s not just those 3 players but also picks from Portland. That is what i believe the Nets would want to make me move KD today, but i have severe doubts portland would actually do it right now. They aren’t desperate enough especially when teams aren’t budging from their offers this summer to the nets and there’s a stalemate. No one is desperate enough to do that type of offer right now. 

I’ve never said it gets it done with the sixers. Frankly i don’t think the nets move him until they get an amazing package like what we discussed with the blazers players and picks or Ingram and that lakers pick. It’s why i dont think anything happens this year unless some team gets really desperate with adequate ammo or next offseason. What i said is i could see the sixers making the move of dealing maxey if it meant it could get a deal done. That DOESNT mean maxey and picks actually gets it done from nets perspective. Just means the sixers would do that deal without hesitating if it were possible 

38 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

how bad was tobi last night?  him missing a point blank layup & the "easy" follow up were classic tobias   

well, there was Maxey with a mediocre 18 on another bad shooting night 8-24, and then, bascially no one else on the entire team did anything at all.

Thats the other negative angle. Embiid decided last night was his game 7 finals game. The team needed just about all of his 59 to win it. Hes not going to do that every night.

How about the triple single from Tucker? 30 minutes. 0 points. 1 rebound. 1 assist. 1 steal.

 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

well, there was Maxey with a mediocre 18 on another bad shooting night 8-24, and then, bascially no one else on the entire team did anything at all.

Thats the other negative angle. Embiid decided last night was his game 7 finals game. The team needed just about all of his 59 to win it. Hes not going to do that every night.

How about the triple single from Tucker? 30 minutes. 0 points. 1 rebound. 1 assist. 1 steal.

 

Would’ve been nice to get markkanen back when he wanted out of Chicago. 

25 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Would’ve been nice to get markkanen back when he wanted out of Chicago. 

yeah. Bogdanovic from Detroit would be a bit of an upgrade from Harris. Doesnt help with the athleticism issue, but he is consistent, which Tobi isnt. Both with his scoring, 3 point shot, and also rebounding.

I see Detroit as a young team with Ivy and Cunningham, and I wonder if they could have any interest in a second go round with Harris as their vet on the team. 

Guys who I would be interested in trying to package in there would be, Burks, Noel, and Bey. Even Knox. Hes a reclamation project but seems to have had an epiphany and maybe can still develop. 

Detroit is fairly easy to trade with because I think they have cap space so salary doesnt have to match.

Just dont know if theyll have any interest at all...

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. Bogdanovic from Detroit would be a bit of an upgrade from Harris. Doesnt help with the athleticism issue, but he is consistent, which Tobi isnt. Both with his scoring, 3 point shot, and also rebounding.

I see Detroit as a young team with Ivy and Cunningham, and I wonder if they could have any interest in a second go round with Harris as their vet on the team. 

Guys who I would be interested in trying to package in there would be, Burks, Noel, and Bey. Even Knox. Hes a reclamation project but seems to have had an epiphany and maybe can still develop. 

Detroit is fairly easy to trade with because I think they have cap space so salary doesnt have to match.

Just dont know if theyll have any interest at all...

They gave Bogdanvic the extension to be their vet. I doubt they give up Bey and Knox is worth a 2nd tops. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. Bogdanovic from Detroit would be a bit of an upgrade from Harris. Doesnt help with the athleticism issue, but he is consistent, which Tobi isnt. Both with his scoring, 3 point shot, and also rebounding.

I see Detroit as a young team with Ivy and Cunningham, and I wonder if they could have any interest in a second go round with Harris as their vet on the team. 

Guys who I would be interested in trying to package in there would be, Burks, Noel, and Bey. Even Knox. Hes a reclamation project but seems to have had an epiphany and maybe can still develop. 

Detroit is fairly easy to trade with because I think they have cap space so salary doesnt have to match.

Just dont know if theyll have any interest at all...

I think utah would unload some guys cause ainge wants to tank. Them winning 10 games already wasn’t in his plans. So that’s another team I’d look at 

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

They gave Bogdanvic the extension to be their vet. I doubt they give up Bey and Knox is worth a 2nd tops. 

Yeah Knox isnt worth much. He is literally a throw in lottery ticket.

 Bey a pipedream in that scenario. 

Noel, and Burks would be really nice in the deal. But neither help solve our wing situation.

 

One thing to consider, which we wont know, is if a young building team like Detroit has any interest in committing to mid-tier guys like Bogdanovic, and Bey long term.  Both are near the end of their contracts according to the ESPN trade madine. Looks like Bodganovic is expiring, and Bey only has next year left, so its extension time, really for both of them. Or, maybe Detroit would rather not. 

In that case Harris replaces the vet leadership role for next year, and then is a massive expiring. A team like detorit should actually find his contract attractive. 

 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think utah would unload some guys cause ainge wants to tank. Them winning 10 games already wasn’t in his plans. So that’s another team I’d look at 

so youre saying theres a chance for Sexton?!?! 

Honestly, Beasley and Olynek would make be pretty happy.