7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How much longer is a 35-year-old going to make an impact?  Year or two? Wrong move with the assets they would have to give up.

Depends on what the extension actually is. 

If it was reasonable,  Lowry is worth giving up assets for because he really does improve our championship hopes. 

If he wants a 5 year max or even close,  then that's crazy. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Depends on what the extension actually is. 

If it was reasonable,  Lowry is worth giving up assets for because he really does improve our championship hopes. 

If he wants a 5 year max or even close,  then that's crazy. 

I'm pretty sure he wants 2 more years for around 30 million per.  If we trade for him, Green probably has to go to make up the salary.  In that case, we can't lose Green and Thybulle for making a push this year.  We need one of them (preferably Thybulle) to play the Nets.

Malcom Brogdon could be on the trading block.

32 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I am good with trading/re-signing Lowry as long as Thybulle is not part of the trade package.

Ever think they are not going to do anything?? Because that's probably what is going to happen nothing. 

 

 

 

idk who they would actually trade for any of these guys. 

mattise has been playing great & they really rely on his wing defense.

shake is their only consistent scorer off the bench.

maxey has shown flashes so i doubt they'd want to give him up.

green is exactly the vet presence you want in the playoffs...he's also a winner.

who's left that another team would want?  

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Ever think they are not going to do anything?? Because that's probably what is going to happen nothing. 

 

 

 

It might not be Lowry or a big name but there will be at least 1, maybe 2 transactions even if its just for depth.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

It might not be Lowry or a big name but there will be at least 1, maybe 2 transactions even if its just for depth.

I don't even see that at this point . They seem content with h.ehst they have

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

idk who they would actually trade for any of these guys. 

mattise has been playing great & they really rely on his wing defense.

shake is their only consistent scorer off the bench.

maxey has shown flashes so i doubt they'd want to give him up.

green is exactly the vet presence you want in the playoffs...he's also a winner.

who's left that another team would want?  

They aren't going to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.  But every guy you mentioned could be used along with fillers to get a better play or better package of players.  

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I don't even see that at this point . They seem content with h.ehst they have

We will know that answer in about 48 hours.

2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

They aren't going to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.  But every guy you mentioned could be used along with fillers to get a better play or better package of players.  

 

sure, they could. i just don't much of an upgrade in most of the names i've seen mentioned. i guess maybe lowry if they can somehow get him for green??? 

6 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I don't even see that at this point . They seem content with h.ehst they have

Well, that is an epic fail on their part. I personally think they need at least one more significant piece which may not be available. If nothing else they just need to look at the Jazz to see how their bench doesn't compare to contenders. To not even get the two bench pieces they need is ridiculous. 

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

sure, they could. i just don't much of an upgrade in most of the names i've seen mentioned. i guess maybe lowry if they can somehow get him for green??? 

Malcom Brogdon is now on the block.  He is 28, is averaging 21.6 ppg and is signed for 2 more years after this for 21/22 million.  And if we make a trade like this, then you can trade Tobi for good value this off-season and find a better player or other players that fit to round out the team.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Well, that is an epic fail on their part. I personally think they need at least one more significant piece which may not be available. If nothing else they just need to look at the Jazz to see how their bench doesn't compare to contenders. To not even get the two bench pieces they need is ridiculous. 

They should concentrate on bench and role players .. stop worrying about a 3rd star or 4th depending on how you view harris or even simmons for that matter. The best teams in the league only really have 2 big star players. Also yeah yeah the nets 3 stars.... Lol they won't play together ever, one of them will always be hurt or just not play cause they are soft. 

3 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

But 28 is young and just hitting his prime if could get him without trading Simmons 

I honestly don’t see the wizards trading beal without the sixers giving up Simmons in that deal. I don’t think the sixers have enough assets going back without Simmons being included tbh. I’d love to be wrong to keep Simmons but i just don’t see it. 

54 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Depends on what the extension actually is. 

If it was reasonable,  Lowry is worth giving up assets for because he really does improve our championship hopes. 

If he wants a 5 year max or even close,  then that's crazy. 

Report is Lowry is asking for 30 mil a year for 2 years. Not sure you want to get into that contract with a guy who’s going to be 35 and 36. At least it’s only two years cause the second year it’s an expiring contract which could help match salaries in a trade 

Simmons

Brogdon

Harris

Thybulle

Embiid

 

That might win it all.

[Krell] Source: asking price for Lowry, as of now, is 2 firsts, a second, and 2 players. That can change as things get down to the wire, but it doesn’t seem like Toronto is in deal-making mode as of now.

 

I'd rather send that haul to the Pacers for Brogdon who is only 28 and signed to a good contract two years after this year then send it to Toronto for a more expensive and much older Lowry.

4 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I'd rather send that haul to the Pacers for Brogdon who is only 28 and signed to a good contract two years after this year then send it to Toronto for a more expensive and much older Lowry.

Agree. Doesn't have to be Brogdon either. That kind of haul should open quite a few doors. Stupid to give up close to that for a guy who is 35. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Agree. Doesn't have to be Brogdon either. That kind of haul should open quite a few doors. Stupid to give up close to that for a guy who is 35. 

It would be an overpay for Brogdon but the thinking would be that there are superstars that have major injury issues (Lebron, Davis, Durant) and we assemble the best team we can and go for a Ship.

22 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

[Krell] Source: asking price for Lowry, as of now, is 2 firsts, a second, and 2 players. That can change as things get down to the wire, but it doesn’t seem like Toronto is in deal-making mode as of now.

 

Toronto is idiotic if they don’t deal him tbh. They aren’t winning another title with that core and i can’t see any reasonable team giving up that much for a 34 year old Lowry who also needs an extension and could tail off next year when he’s 35. They are going to wind up getting nothing for him and he leaves in free agency or they re-sign him but go nowhere spinning their wheels in purgatory 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'd love to get Lowry. Not sure I'm going to love the contract it will require. 

If we don't land him that's OK imo but I hope there is a quick pivot. Gotta do something. 

 

 

nah too old. we would regret it.

15 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

nah too old. we would regret it.

2 years is fine with me if that's all he's asking. 

the "Gotta do something!!" mindset is a mistake. its panicky and leads to short-sighted, bad decisions.

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

the "Gotta do something!!" mindset is a mistake. its panicky and leads to short-sighted, bad decisions.

Lowry on a short deal isn't a bad decision. 

Brogdon replacing Green would be better. 

But Lowry makes us a legit championship contender this year as well. If you win it,  nobody should care about paying him the next 2 years. 

Apparently DeRozan is officially available as well. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Lowry on a short deal isn't a bad decision. 

Brogdon replacing Green would be better. 

But Lowry makes us a legit championship contender this year as well. If you win it,  nobody should care about paying him the next 2 years. 

Apparently DeRozan is officially available as well. 

I don't want DeRozan.  Dwight Howard shoots the 3 better.  We need all starters or major contributors minutes wise in the playoffs, to be able to shoot a decent 3 because of Simmons/spacing.