What a deep draft and even at pick 28 I think you can get a quality basketball player, if they don't trade the pick with Simmons. 

Tre Mann, Ayo Dosunmu, Greg Brown, Jaden Springer, Trey Murphy are all guys that will be picked around 20 to 30

[Kevin McCormick] Brian Windhorst said on ESPN today that Ben Simmons still has value and if the Sixers decided to gauge his market there would be "more than a dozen" offers for him.

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

[Kevin McCormick] Brian Windhorst said on ESPN today that Ben Simmons still has value and if the Sixers decided to gauge his market there would be "more than a dozen" offers for him.

I absolutely believe it and his value will only increase as we get further away from Sunday. 

Dream trade is Garland, Love, #3 pick for Simmons, 1st rounder, Shake, 2022 1st rounder. 

Willing to throw in Maxey if have too. 

Or

Dejounte Murray, sign DeRozen to an extension, 2021 1st, for Simmons, 2021 1st, Hill

 

10 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

 

And yet continues to shoot his (rare) jumpers and free throws left handed. 

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

hasn't asked out yet.  and if...big IF....he does....what are the odds he'll want to play in philly?  

If he wants out it's to go win a championship. What teams are the contenders?

West

Lakers - They have Kuzma and???

Clippers - Straight swap for George? Not likely 

Jazz - Mitchell for Lillard?

Mavs - Porzingas is probably their best piece they can move but doesn't move the needle

Nuggets - Porter Jr and Murray. I don't know if they want Murray coming off a long term injury or they're willing to trade him to a western conference team

Grizz - Not close enough to a title and I don't know if they would do it based around what they can send and the fit with Ja

Warriors - Probably have the ammo to make a move but not going to work with a Curry/Klay backcourt. 

Nets - No way they could do this trade even if they got rid of Kyrie

Bucks - Doubt they make the move

Knicks - Probably not close enough to competing and their young guys aren't established enough to bring enough value in a trade

Hawks - Similar situation to the Grizz but swap Ja with Young

Heat - They're young guys that had value last offseason regressed but this might be the spot. They have some moveable pieces depending what they do with Oladipo. They also made the Whiteside trade so their FO's can get a deal done

Celtics - Brown would be the best piece. He is coming off his first all-star game and they also moved Kemba which creates a need at the guard spot. They will be the team to try and match in a bidding war. I'm not sure if Lillard and Tatum win you a title though. 

Wizards - Not happening, especially with Beal/Westbrook

Pacers - Not close enough to a title and with what they have to give up to get him there he may as well stay in Portland.

Looking at that list, if he leaves it's probably between the Nuggets, Sixers, Heat and Celtics. His best shot at a title is probably with either Embiid or Jokic. 

It also depends if Portland would want to go full rebuild or get a star back AND young talent. The picks are worthless if he is going to a contender. 

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

hasn't asked out yet.  and if...big IF....he does....what are the odds he'll want to play in philly?  

I think Lillard would want to play here cause of embiid. I don’t really think that’s the issue. The issue is Portland likely hires a coach he wants and he likely gives Portland another chance for at least another season. So the issue is more Portland isn’t likely to trade him for that package and in general he’s likely staying for at least another year. 

portland will do whatever it takes to make lillard happy & keep him there. sure, you inquire about him...but there's been nothing reported that indicates portland looking to trade him...or him asking to be traded. 

 

49 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Dream trade is Garland, Love, #3 pick for Simmons, 1st rounder, Shake, 2022 1st rounder. 

Willing to throw in Maxey if have too. 

Or

Dejounte Murray, sign DeRozen to an extension, 2021 1st, for Simmons, 2021 1st, Hill

I’ll take the Cleveland trade over the Spurs. I don’t love Kevin love but i love garland a lot. I think he has tremendous upside. I think he’s a better shooter than murray already and can continue to improve. I understand you also sign derozan but i think that #3 overall pick has a ton of value in if you draft someone there or use it to make a deal to bring in another very good player. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

portland will do whatever it takes to make lillard happy & keep him there. sure, you inquire about him...but there's been nothing reported that indicates portland looking to trade him...or him asking to be traded. 

 

Was an article around March time frame from the Athletic that had rumblings. I can't seem to find it now 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ll take the Cleveland trade over the Spurs. I don’t love Kevin love but i love garland a lot. I think he has tremendous upside. I think he’s a better shooter than murray already and can continue to improve. I understand you also sign derozan but i think that #3 overall pick has a ton of value in if you draft someone there or use it to make a deal to bring in another very good player. 

Jalen Green has a chance to be LaVine/Booker. Might take him a bit of time though. Where Suggs reminds me of Deron Williams type

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

[Kevin McCormick] Brian Windhorst said on ESPN today that Ben Simmons still has value and if the Sixers decided to gauge his market there would be "more than a dozen" offers for him.

I think he has value. The issue is more how high is the value. I’m guessing those teams would make offers but i think most of those offers are likely not putting you over the top as a true title contender. And there in lies the problem with embiid having limited amount of years left 

i've read great things about green. i just think morey is trying to win now while embiid is still in his prime.  i think he'll be looking for vets who can make an immediate impact. 

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Was an article around March time frame from the Athletic that had rumblings. I can't seem to find it now 

[Trail Blazers GM Neil] Olshey has given rival teams no indication that he’s willing to trade Lillard. Lillard and his agent, Aaron Goodwin, could easily change that tone, though. A person close to Lillard told CNBC that he’s expected to wait to see what the Blazers do this off-season before deciding his future.

 

When a rebuild occurs, a team loses leverage in negotiating corporate partnerships. The Blazers will be navigating a new regional sports network partner, moving from NBC Sports Northwest to AT&T’s Root Sports. Distribution issues have been a concern for the team for years and has cost it audience reach. But entering a new local TV deal with no superstar isn’t ideal.

Lillard is a huge financial draw, and losing him could be devastating. There would likely be fewer nationally televised games. It’s here the team’s jersey patch asset could take a hit because less exposure makes that advertising real estate less attractive.

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Jalen Green has a chance to be LaVine/Booker. Might take him a bit of time though. Where Suggs reminds me of Deron Williams type

I’d love either one. And usually I’d say draft one and let garland and green grow together cause that could be a scary backcourt for years if developed right.

However i don’t think the sixers would use that 3rd overall pick to draft someone but as an asset cause they are in win now mode with embiid being on a limited timeframe. If Embiid didn’t have the injuries he had and a longer career i think a bigger chance the sixers make that selection

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i've read great things about green. i just think morey is trying to win now while embiid is still in his prime.  i think he'll be looking for vets who can make an immediate impact. 

I don't disagree but if Garland fills the Simmons role and don't lose anything else then Green can take a year. He also played in the G League last year against grown men instead of college so that might help. 

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

[Trail Blazers GM Neil] Olshey has given rival teams no indication that he’s willing to trade Lillard. Lillard and his agent, Aaron Goodwin, could easily change that tone, though. A person close to Lillard told CNBC that he’s expected to wait to see what the Blazers do this off-season before deciding his future.

 

When a rebuild occurs, a team loses leverage in negotiating corporate partnerships. The Blazers will be navigating a new regional sports network partner, moving from NBC Sports Northwest to AT&T’s Root Sports. Distribution issues have been a concern for the team for years and has cost it audience reach. But entering a new local TV deal with no superstar isn’t ideal.

Lillard is a huge financial draw, and losing him could be devastating. There would likely be fewer nationally televised games. It’s here the team’s jersey patch asset could take a hit because less exposure makes that advertising real estate less attractive.

Are you trying to say watching Ben Simmons have a mental breakdown on national tv isn’t something people want to see?  Lol

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I don't disagree but if Garland fills the Simmons role and don't lose anything else then Green can take a year. He also played in the G League last year against grown men instead of college so that might help. 

It's possible it depends on what morey could get for that 3rd overall selection tbh. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It's possible it depends on what morey could get for that 3rd overall selection tbh. 

If can't get Beal or LaVine, I think Green is the next best option even over productive NBA Vets

 

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

If can't get Beal or LaVine, I think Green is the next best option even over productive NBA Vets

 

I don't understand the G-League very well.  If he's on a G-League team, why aren't his rights already owned by an NBA team?

i've seen a few articles suggesting tobi for mccollum...of course, it's all made up bullcrap like all the other trade ideas we're seeing...but i'd say their talent level is similar in that they're both good but not quite all stars.

they're looking to move on from cj & this opens up the sg spot for norm powell, who they just traded for. also helps philly since cj can create & is a better outside shooter. could be a move that helps both teams.  combo guard for combo forward.

then you still look to move ben, of course.  

9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I don't understand the G-League very well.  If he's on a G-League team, why aren't his rights already owned by an NBA team?

He was on a team called Ignite, which is basically a handful of high school kids and older vets like Jarrett Jack and Amir Johnson. The are not affiliated with any team and called a developmental team. 

Green signed a 1 year 500k contract to play for them instead of college. 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He was on a team called Ignite, which is basically a handful of high school kids and older vets like Jarrett Jack and Amir Johnson. The are not affiliated with any team. 

So any NBA team is eligible to sign him whenever?

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i've seen a few articles suggesting tobi for mccollum...of course, it's all made up bullcrap like all the other trade ideas we're seeing...but i'd say their talent level is similar in that they're both good but not quite all stars.

they're looking to move on from cj & this opens up the sg spot for norm powell, who they just traded for. also helps philly since cj can create & is a better outside shooter. could be a move that helps both teams. 

then you still look to move ben, of course.  

I’d take McCollum over Harris. I think McCollum is a better shot creator than Harris. He also gives you better outside shooting and can play some point if need be. I dont know if that brings you a championship and you’d also have to find a stretch four replacement. So maybe instead of trading Simmons for a guard you’d be looking for a a stretch four or wing. Could start Maxey at PG, McCollum at SG, thybulle at SF and then look to deal Simmons for possibly someone like siakam who apparently has been a pain in the ass to nick nurse since winning that title.