basically have to look at teams with a stretch 5. 

11 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

Curry is shooting .125

Said it watching the pacers loss in person. He is injured. Something is definitely off and he limped around quite a bit

30 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Said it watching the pacers loss in person. He is injured. Something is definitely off and he limped around quite a bit

He had a foot injury.  And I think was questionable for 1 game.  I don't remember if he missed a game or not.  But yes there was a reported injury he is probably still hurting from. 

seth can't create so he needs to be set up for good looks. that's a lot more difficult w/o embiid on the court drawing the defense's attention. 

2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

Yea. I’m just looking at teams with bad records right now that might be willing to deal. Don’t even think the hawks would want Simmons without cappella there. 

Something like this works. Of course need to dig deeper into the players to make it work but the framework works. 

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

seth can't create so he needs to be set up for good looks. that's a lot more difficult w/o embiid on the court drawing the defense's attention. 

Seth is probably the best off the dribble shooter on the team.  

It's probably harder for him to move without the ball. Ask that running to get open is tough on a hurt foot. 

They should probably let him try to create more. He's good at it. 

76ers and their burner accounts.  Classic.

https://thelibertyline.com/2021/11/17/ben-simmons-reddit-post/

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

76ers and their burner accounts.  Classic.

https://thelibertyline.com/2021/11/17/ben-simmons-reddit-post/

This looks completely fake to me. No way that's Ben. Details are too precise and the language doesn't fit.

1 hour ago, bbabraham said:

This looks completely fake to me. No way that's Ben. Details are too precise and the language doesn't fit.

It's most likely a joke. 

This team blows.

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[Amick] A source with knowledge of the list said there are approx 30 players who would satisfy the 76ers in a Simmons swap, & there’s an internal belief that a fair amount of them —let’s say 5 to 10— could become available in the next year or 2. "This is like a multi-year thing” a Sixers source said

https://theathletic.com/2962244/2021/11/18/the-ben-simmons-saga-one-month-into-the-season-where-things-stand-and-whats-next/

Full Quote:

Is a trade coming anytime soon?

In a word, no. It does not appear any deal will happen soon. As it stands, Simmons isn’t going anywhere until Morey is able to swap him for a truly elite player. And yes, in case you wondered, the Sixers have an actual list of such names internally.

As you may have heard by now, Portland’s Damian Lillard is not only on said list but somewhere near the top. Ditto for Brooklyn’s James Harden, the former Rocket with whom Morey tried unsuccessfully to reunite with in January and who, by the way, could come to Philly via sign-and-trade this summer if he decides to shock the basketball world and leave Kevin Durant behind. Also high on the list: Washington’s Bradley Beal. Those kinds of guys.

But here’s the part that may come as a surprise: A source with knowledge of the list said there are approximately 30 players who would satisfy the Sixers in a Simmons swap, and there’s an internal belief that a fair amount of them — let’s say five to 10 — could become available in the next year or two. And while it might sound like a long list, consider this much: It’s approximately six percent of the league and the rough equivalent to the number of All-Stars selected every season. The framing of the timeline, more than anything else, speaks volumes about the long-term approach the Sixers insist they’re taking.

"This is like a multi-year thing,” a Sixers source said.

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The conditions currently driving the Sixers’ roster decisions aren’t about to change. And the stance, in short, is that their title-contending fortunes will only improve if Simmons returns or a trade emerges in which he lands them an elite player.

Beyond Embiid, the Sixers’ combination of All-Star caliber players (Tobias Harris) and high-level role players (Seth Curry, Tyrese Maxey, Georges Niang, Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, Danny Green et al.) means there’s no need to take on more players of that ilk. As such, the intense focus remains on the prospect of Simmons wearing a Sixers jersey again.

 

Embiid can't be happy about this if rumors are true and if they are targeting 30 guys then go Fing trade for one. 

This isn't the MLB where have to scout minor league systems we know who works with Embiid and who doesn't. 

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[Rich] Paul’s interview, and this quote in particular, made you wonder if a Simmons return might be nearing.

"This is no longer about a trade,” Paul said. "This is about finding a place where we can help Ben get back to his mental strength and get back on the floor. I want him on the floor playing the game that he loves. I want Ben on the floor, whether that’s in a 76ers uniform or any other uniform. That’s not up to me, but I want him in a state where he can resume play. We want to cooperate and want to work him back on the floor.”

Yet when I checked in to update the state of affairs five days later, the message a source with knowledge of Simmons’ status shared was significantly less hopeful. As it stands, I don’t see a return happening anytime soon — if ever. What’s more, a source with knowledge of the talks between the Sixers and Simmons’ representatives indicated he’s reiterated his strong desire to be traded in recent days.

In the absence of a Simmons return, sources say, the Sixers’ belief is rival teams have grown even less motivated than before about making a move for Simmons because of the escalating uncertainty that surrounds him. If his mental health struggles aren’t solely the product of his Sixers experience, in other words, then who’s to say it will be any different somewhere else? From this standpoint, it’s not hard to find rival executives who confirm these suspicions.

 

55 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Embiid can't be happy about this if rumors are true and if they are targeting 30 guys then go Fing trade for one. 

This isn't the MLB where have to scout minor league systems we know who works with Embiid and who doesn't. 

I think they’re just putting pressure on Simmons letting him know they’re not blinking. 

Fire Morey

Embiid seems to be supporting the FO in this and if that is the case (and they read it right that his support includes waiting until year 2) I think they are making the right move here. Brogdon or players of his caliber ain’t gonna win you a chip as a 2nd option.

Gonna cost the team a whole bunch of wins over the course of 2 years. And Embiid, 2 years older.

Whats even more concerning is that the article still mentions a guy like Harden, who is also getting older, and will be 2 years older by then...

I dont think its wise to rely on a couple dinosaurs to win it for us. 

 

I said when they gave Embiid the max, they have him locked up for the next 6 years now. Knowing that, the plan can no longer be to win now at all costs while Embiid is still here/healthy. The team is paying him for 6 years which shows they believe he can still be this effective for that period of time. As such, it makes sense to target a guy like a Reddish, Anunoby, etc.... who have all star potential. By next year Maxey is probably a borderline all star, and Reddish or OG can be on that same level as well. Now you have Embiid flanked by 2 of those guys, and Harris who can actually become like a 4th option at that point. 

 

The other thing is, 2 years from now, Curry is likely gone or declining. Green god willing is long gone. And... we still have no cap to replace them. So you go for that super star in this trade giving up Ben + whatever depth is left.... and theres really no ammo to replenish it.

We havent had a team as deep as this years in a long time. Id prefer to see them load up on as many secondary scorers as they can on that Brogdon level. It might be enough. But if not, its not hamstringing us far in to the future. And its also not wasting the next 1-2 seasons like the current stated plan would. I dont know how fans can accept this plan.

1 hour ago, giveemtheboot said:

Embiid seems to be supporting the FO in this and if that is the case (and they read it right that his support includes waiting until year 2) I think they are making the right move here. Brogdon or players of his caliber ain’t gonna win you a chip as a 2nd option.

Nobody is probably touching GS without injuries happening. It's next year regardless.

16 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Nobody is probably touching GS without injuries happening. It's next year regardless.

I don't believe that especially if Klay doesn't come back to old form. 

They are basically Steph, Green and role players 

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I don't believe that especially if Klay doesn't come back to old form. 

They are basically Steph, Green and role players 

OK. We'll see.

Wonder if Garland Love was really available and if so what a dumb Fing decision saying no to Garland 

27 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Wonder if Garland Love was really available and if so what a dumb Fing decision saying no to Garland 

Id love to know the 30 man list. And Id love to know why, with that many potential targets, they havent been able to pry any of those guys away yet. Cant think of any explanation other than incompetence or disingenuousness meaning, not actually willing to trade Ben.

Either way, I cant Fing stand Morey right now.

5 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Whats even more concerning is that the article still mentions a guy like Harden, who is also getting older, and will be 2 years older by then...

I dont think its wise to rely on a couple dinosaurs to win it for us. 

 

I said when they gave Embiid the max, they have him locked up for the next 6 years now. Knowing that, the plan can no longer be to win now at all costs while Embiid is still here/healthy. The team is paying him for 6 years which shows they believe he can still be this effective for that period of time.

Harden already is a shell of himself and Embiid will never be healthy enough and for the love of God they aren't getting an all star for freaking Ben!! The longer he sits the more other teams are not willing to give up much because they still don't know what player they are getting. Ben with each week shows how much of a problem he is to go along with his last playoff exit.  

People holding out hope that the sixers will score an all star for Ben are as delusional as Morey is. Ben sitting on the bench while the team is in a free fall is most likely having other teams laughing at the sixers at this point. Like you said , Embiid health isn't going to get better they need help now! 

Already getting torched in this one, keep holding out dopes. 

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Harden already is a shell of himself and Embiid will never be healthy enough and for the love of God they aren't getting an all star for freaking Ben!! The longer he sits the more other teams are not willing to give up much because they still don't know what player they are getting. Ben with each week shows how much of a problem he is to go along with his last playoff exit.  

People holding out hope that the sixers will score an all star for Ben are as delusional as Morey is. Ben sitting on the bench while the team is in a free fall is most likely having other teams laughing at the sixers at this point. Like you said , Embiid health isn't going to get better they need help now! 

If we are talking about Simmons like a stock, his value just hit a 52 week high when this team was on a 6 game winning streak not only without him, but basically without anyone. That showed the 6ers were wining and were never going to be desperate to settle for a lesser offer. At that point Morey should have gone to the team/s who offered him the best package and got a deal done.

Now, theyre on a 5 game losing streak, even while most players have returned. And.... teams are going to be happy to wait and watch and see how desperate we may become to add pieces to a struggling team that was supposed to have title aspirations. They missed a chance to sell high. Who knows when the next opportunity will be. 

They have bungled this entire scenario from the very beginning and now, theres no end in sight.