I haven't really been keeping up - are the sixers still holding Ben's paychecks or is he getting paid to do nothing?

I wonder if there are any other players in Tobias Harris' tier who are a bad fit with their current team and their team needs a PF

I just saw a stat that says the Sixers have a 110.9  offensive rating when Niang and Embiid play together. 

If we could trade Harris for a 3 and D wing, that would be ideal.

(I was just looking at his advanced stats and he's barely in the top 100 for VORP, BPM, outside of top 100 for Win Shares and outside of the top 50 in Usage.....what a terrible contract) 

 

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[6ABC] Philadelphia rolls out COVID-19 vaccination requirements for indoor dining establishments (including the Wells Fargo Center)

cool...maybe i'll go to a game now. 

23 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

cool...maybe i'll go to a game now. 

You're one of those twinks that has been scared to go out in public, aren't you?

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

 

 

An 8 team trade?  That would be a record....wouldn't it?

I had stated over the past few seasons that when you focus on them, you can clearly see that Ben and Tobias had the best chemistry on the team.  Between covid recovery (which took Seth the majority of the regular season to recover from) and the loss of Ben, it's no wonder that Tobi is struggling. 

Contract wise, trading both Tobi and Ben at the same time would be a blockbuster NBA trade. 

2 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

I haven't really been keeping up - are the sixers still holding Ben's paychecks or is he getting paid to do nothing?

theyre witholding his pay still. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

theyre witholding his pay still. 

Good.  F him

So anyone willing to admit that we should try and trade both Embiid and Ben?  Or are we still not there yet?  

You bring in another prolific player like Beal or Dame (I know, not going to happen)....you really think they will mesh with JoJo?

Tams don't win the title building around a true big man.....Greek Freak is a little different.  

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So anyone willing to admit that we should try and trade both Embiid and Ben?  Or are we still not there yet?  

You bring in another prolific player like Beal or Dame (I know, not going to happen)....you really think they will mesh with JoJo?

Tams don't win the title building around a true big man.....Greek Freak is a little different.  

I said it when it was time to start thinking about paying Embiid his super max. Bad decision. I would have kept him as long as we could until he got pissed about not getting paid and then traded him. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I said it when it was time to start thinking about paying Embiid his super max. Bad decision. I would have kept him as long as we could until he got pissed about not getting paid and then traded him. 

Look at you....always telling us how right you were.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I said it before you BTW, but I have soften on the guy)

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Look at you....always telling us how right you were.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I said it before you BTW, but I have soften on the guy)

Not sure if its right or wrong. Maybe he shocks the world and has a long productive career.

Im just saying, Ive been at that point where I thought it was time to consider a trade.

After paying him, they wont. We are going to be stuck with that contract for a long time, and its going to become the worst in the league. 

But you want to trade Ben for CJ, who has a horrible contract and is owed 33 and 35 million over the next two years. 

Talk it into existence 

 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So anyone willing to admit that we should try and trade both Embiid and Ben?  Or are we still not there yet?  

You bring in another prolific player like Beal or Dame (I know, not going to happen)....you really think they will mesh with JoJo?

Tams don't win the title building around a true big man.....Greek Freak is a little different.  

I was there last year when Embiid went down again. Get rid of him ASAP before he really falls apart. They will never do it but that would be the smartest thing they could do. The big question is what do you get in return?

18 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I was there last year when Embiid went down again. Get rid of him ASAP before he really falls apart. They will never do it but that would be the smartest thing they could do. The big question is what do you get in return?

an empty arena. 

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

an empty arena. 

The Process 2.0

Let's trade the runner up for MVP for role-players and go through a decade of mediocrity! This thread never disappoints. 

40 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I was there last year when Embiid went down again. Get rid of him ASAP before he really falls apart. They will never do it but that would be the smartest thing they could do. The big question is what do you get in return?

Forgot how fun it was watching Andre iguadala lead the team to the 8 seed a thousand times. Let’s get back to that ASAP. 

1 hour ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Forgot how fun it was watching Andre iguadala lead the team to the 8 seed a thousand times. Let’s get back to that ASAP. 

Not saying trading Embiid is the right thing to do but, what exactly have they gotten out of it besides a better regular season record? 

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

But you want to trade Ben for CJ, who has a horrible contract and is owed 33 and 35 million over the next two years. 

He's producing.  He's young enough. And that's 2 years. He plays a more important position for success in the modern NBA game. 

Embiid couldn't be more opposite in every way. 

He just came off yet another consecutive injury marred post-season. And is under contract for the next SIX years with an exorbitant price tag. Plays a devalued position. 

Also,  trading a useless player (Ben) for McCollum. While you'd be getting a great player in return for embiid. 

You couldn't possibly come up with a worse comparison if you tried. 

24 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Not saying trading Embiid is the right thing to do but, what exactly have they gotten out of it besides a better regular season record? 

They were way slow to come around on trading Simmons. They'll be too late with Embiid too. But for now they can try to feel smart with a bunch of dumb one liners. 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They were way slow to come around on trading Simmons. They'll be too late with Embiid too. But for now they can try to feel smart with a bunch of dumb one liners. 

I understand not wanting to go back to the mediocre days and all that but, all we are getting is a better regular season record with the same 1st/2nd round playoff exit. I guess if you are excited about a better regular season record then sure, I guess. 

It's becoming the same thing year in year out. Embiid just needs to get in shape, he just needs to get his chemistry with the rest of the team, he is sick and sometimes all of the above every damn playoffs

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I understand not wanting to go back to the mediocre days and all that but, all we are getting is a better regular season record with the same 1st/2nd round playoff exit. I guess if you are excited about a better regular season record then sure, I guess. 

It's becoming the same thing year in year out. Embiid just needs to get in shape, he just needs to get his chemistry with the rest of the team, he is sick and sometimes all of the above every damn playoffs

Yep. 

And,  they're not gonna trade him in the next few years anyway.  They just committed big time.  It's pretty moot right now. 

By the time they might consider it, the contract won't be movable. 

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He's producing.  He's young enough. And that's 2 years. He plays a more important position for success in the modern NBA game. 

Embiid couldn't be more opposite in every way. 

He just came off yet another consecutive injury marred post-season. And is under contract for the next SIX years with an exorbitant price tag. Plays a devalued position. 

Also,  trading a useless player (Ben) for McCollum. While you'd be getting a great player in return for embiid. 

You couldn't possibly come up with a worse comparison if you tried. 

To think Ben doesn't have value aka is useless shows where you are in the Simmons saga. You are willing to trade him away for pennies on the dollar. CJ doesn't even move the neddle for the Sixers come playoff time. 

You can see teams are starting to panic and then a GM trying to save his job will make an offer for Simmons that will blow a trade for CJ out the water. The CJ trade can be had tomorrow, a week from now or trade deadline day. Heck, I think the Sixers would be doing the Blazers a favor to help get rid of that contract. 

But I'm sure you still believe that bringing back Doc will make Tobias into Clippers Tobias again. 

25 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yep. 

And,  they're not gonna trade him in the next few years anyway.  They just committed big time.  It's pretty moot right now. 

By the time they might consider it, the contract won't be movable. 

Do you feel the same way about AD? Why would you trade for him because he is always injured. 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Not saying trading Embiid is the right thing to do but, what exactly have they gotten out of it besides a better regular season record? 

They were a Kawai Leonard horse shot away from the finals a few years back. Since then it’s become increasingly obvious that Ben is the playoff liability that’s kept them from going further.