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Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Trading a 1st for Yannick makes a ton of sense.  Who knows what the draft will be next year, might as well use that pick on a known commodity.  And we all know Howie sucks at drafting.  Only issue is, the salary implications. Cause we are F-Ed

I can't see them trading for Yannick.  Clowney on a 1 year deal would make more sense.  

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    I mentioned this previously on this board, and in the past years ago on the other board.   I'm not sure Howie has ever come out and said it this plainly, but Howie is telling the truth here.   

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11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yesterday, wasteam fired the top two guys in their pro personnel department.  Strange timing. Who is going to be identifying players to bring into camp, looking at other teams’ players that might get cut or swapped. 

I'll do it.   My first moves will be to trade away the top 3 draft picks from the Washington Whomevers to the Philadelphia Eagles in return for Alshon Jeffery, Malik Jackson and Derek Barnett.   

Then, I'll broker a deal on behalf of the beleaguered Yannick Ngaukoue to get him traded from the Jaguars to the Eagles.  The Eagles would ship off their first round pick and second round pick acquired in the deal for the aforementioned players and Josh Sweat, plus a conditional 1st or 2nd round pick for 2022 draft.  Eagles get Ngaukoue and sign him to a long-term deal with the money saved by trading Jackson and Jeffery, and not needing to pick up the 5th year option on Barnett.   

 

At the end of the week, I will resign my post in order to spend more time with my family.

 

 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

https://www.twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1282378936488464384

 

Let's talk football.  How many things are wrong with this OL rep?

He did not jump the snap, as far as I can tell listening to the coach. The rusher rocked his stance, reset, and got off late. The blocker’s first two drop steps were good enough, although he straightened up too much. He would have been an easy target for a bull rush. His weight, particularly on his left foot, was on his heels, and his left arm was lazy. If his weight was farther forward he could have slid left and punched inside the rusher’s shoulder rather than grab him he’d have been fine. At that point, with proper balance, he could have driven him.

So, too upright, uncertain footwork at contact, terrible hand placement. Against someone his own size he could have been bullrushed or, if the rusher got off on time, open to a rip on that side.

Instead, blatant holding and as someone said, a body thrown at the feet of the QB.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

He's going to have to wait until the travel ban to the EU is lifted.

13 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Couple more yards and he would have been ROY, iirc?

He came in 5th behind Jacobs, Murray, Brown and McLaurin. 16 points, no 1st place votes, compared to 35, 32, 29, and 23 respectively.  If he did what he did towards the end of the year towards the beginning I think he would have been a serious contender.  I think most writers/pundits etc recognize him as a good player.  I just think he's going to be an absolute stud. After the bye he averaged like 70 rushing and 30 receiving a game, and that's with significantly less rushing volume than a guy like Jacobs. If he can improve on that while showing the ability to block like he did watch out...

They pick Parks and Edwards.

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Trading a 1st for Yannick makes a ton of sense.  Who knows what the draft will be next year, might as well use that pick on a known commodity.  And we all know Howie sucks at drafting.  Only issue is, the salary implications. Cause we are F-Ed

I'm in!

Per Spuds... 

The Eagles named the "winners" of the offseason program, broken up in positional categories. They are: J.J. Arcega-Whiteside and Rob Davis, competing in the position groups including wide receivers, defensive backs, and running backs. Among the defensive linemen, the winners were Bruce Hector and Genard Avery. Among the offensive linemen, tackle Lane Johnson and Jason Kelce took the honors, and in the Big Skill group comprised of quarterbacks, linebackers, tight ends, and specialists, linebacker Alex Singleton and tight end Zach Ertz were the winners. So, there's that.

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

He did not jump the snap, as far as I can tell listening to the coach. The rusher rocked his stance, reset, and got off late. The blocker’s first two drop steps were good enough, although he straightened up too much. He would have been an easy target for a bull rush. His weight, particularly on his left foot, was on his heels, and his left arm was lazy. If his weight was farther forward he could have slid left and punched inside the rusher’s shoulder rather than grab him he’d have been fine. At that point, with proper balance, he could have driven him.

So, too upright, uncertain footwork at contact, terrible hand placement. Against someone his own size he could have been bullrushed or, if the rusher got off on time, open to a rip on that side.

Instead, blatant holding and as someone said, a body thrown at the feet of the QB.

This is the biggest thing.  I remember hearing Stoutland go on about that at some point.   The goal is NOT to have players on the ground, because of where they land.  If you recall, in 2017, in the Washington game, Kelce comes over and blows up a DT on the side, knocking him to the ground.  The result is that he lands on the side of Peters' right knee and blows out the ACL.   Kelce didn't need to blow up the DT like that, merely engaging him (as he was already engaged with the LG at the time) would have been sufficient as that late into the play, the ball was either thrown or about to be, and there was no need to do it.  

 

The ooooing and ahhhing from the players around is the most concerning part for me as I watch that.   They reacted as if he did a good thing.  The reality is that he didn't.   And it turns out that the OL himself is the one who put out the Tweet, undoubtedly because on first blush, and based on the reaction he got from his peers, he felt it was a good rep.  It was not.  It was a dangerous rep.  Practicing that, even if it's not called by the umpire or referee (though it would be hard for them to miss such a blatant hold) is just a very very dangerous play for the QB, or the players lined up to your inside.  A side shot to the knee is just not a hit you want to take if it can be avoided.  

 

Pancake blocks where you see where the player is being driven is one thing.  A side shot can be extremely dangerous in the tight quarters of the pocket.  And flinging a guy to the side so that they are out of control is a very dangerous play.

53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ive never watched this show, but Im catching clips on youtube lately and I really like how these guys take on issues thoughtfully. Here they talk about DeSean Jackson.

 

So how come guys like Bayless and Steve Smith get a much wider audience?

Guess a thoughtful conversation with nuance isn't as sexy as screaming cliches?

 

Who would have a bigger impact on this defense: Yannick or Adams?

I think a lot of people underestimate just how dominant and impactful Adams is because he's not a free safety, and our secondary is undoubtedly the weaker unit.  Still a top 10ish player at a position as important as DE is hard to argue against regardless of roster makeup.  We'd without a doubt have the top DL on paper in the league.

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So how come guys like Bayless and Steve Smith get a much wider audience?

Guess a thoughtful conversation with nuance isn't as sexy as screaming cliches?

 

Yeah its not ESPN's style. Wiley and Acho's show is on Fox Sports. I dont think anyone watches Fox Sports. 

 

 

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

If you think I am emotional about this issue, you are right. I find it appalling that you are not.

Since my post was 2 days before you responded i'm not sure what you were referring to. Aside from that

 

Emotion clouds your thinking. There are many reasons to be for or against any subject but nothing is ever resolved with emotional responses.

I'll give you the patriot act as an example.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Landover Losers?

15 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Since my post was 2 days before you responded i'm not sure what you were referring to. Aside from that

 

Emotion clouds your thinking. There are many reasons to be for or against any subject but nothing is ever resolved with emotional responses.

I'll give you the patriot act as an example.

I’ll refresh your memory. I had asked @Giddyunc to cite some examples of BLM leaders advocating segregation and he quoted several articles, none of which advocated segregation although several requested that whites not lead marches but appear only in supporting roles.

You decided to pile on, accusing me, rightfully, of being emotional on the subject.

Emotion is not an unclean thing, much as you seem to imply it to be. Love of children, love of spouse, love of country, love of justice, these are all good things and more than that, they are motivation to action, to raise a child, support a spouse, defend a country, or seek justice. How one does that will indeed involve rational thought, but the emotion precedes  it.

 

Not that it matters a lick but I have been hospitalized several days awaiting a procedure to take place today so my time and energy have in general been devoted elsewhere.

Not to worry, I’m too curmudgeonly to die anytime soon.
 

27 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Who would have a bigger impact on this defense: Yannick or Adams?

I think a lot of people underestimate just how dominant and impactful Adams is because he's not a free safety, and our secondary is undoubtedly the weaker unit.  Still a top 10ish player at a position as important as DE is hard to argue against regardless of roster makeup.  We'd without a doubt have the top DL on paper in the league.

Man, I agree!  Both would be huge adds. 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

What a ****.

I mean, great move to make some cash.  But an absolute **** of a move by this guy.

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Go back to not posting at all.  It’s what you do best.  

You like my posts when I agree with you.  Happened yesterday with McNabb.  Like I said, thin skinned

Also, @ManuManu..  he took RedTails twice!

43 minutes ago, justrelax said:

He did not jump the snap, as far as I can tell listening to the coach. The rusher rocked his stance, reset, and got off late. The blocker’s first two drop steps were good enough, although he straightened up too much. He would have been an easy target for a bull rush. His weight, particularly on his left foot, was on his heels, and his left arm was lazy. If his weight was farther forward he could have slid left and punched inside the rusher’s shoulder rather than grab him he’d have been fine. At that point, with proper balance, he could have driven him.

So, too upright, uncertain footwork at contact, terrible hand placement. Against someone his own size he could have been bullrushed or, if the rusher got off on time, open to a rip on that side.

Instead, blatant holding and as someone said, a body thrown at the feet of the QB.

DE, mistimed, horrible feet placement, might as well not have arms, bending head down while too upright, no bend in legs.   Not sure what’s being coached there.  Second clip, DE well balanced on feet with decent bend but hand fighting inside instead of a punch, that OL should win that one every time. 

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ehh. Technically yes.  But it’s pretty much assumed all of those players will be in the plans for whenever the next season is.  Unless the don’t make the team (meaning a late rounder). My feel is he got lukewarm information and is trying to break something that most likely won’t pan out.  Because the Eagles are always "in the conversation”.  With the way our cap situation looks next year, I think it’s best Howie pushes himself away from the table.  Before he does more harm.  

Concur about the move away from the table.  It would be a smart one considering the cap situation.

If Howie really wants to sign a vet, a G would address the OL gap and far more cost-effective.

48 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Per Spuds... 

The Eagles named the "winners" of the offseason program, broken up in positional categories. They are: J.J. Arcega-Whiteside and Rob Davis, competing in the position groups including wide receivers, defensive backs, and running backs. Among the defensive linemen, the winners were Bruce Hector and Genard Avery. Among the offensive linemen, tackle Lane Johnson and Jason Kelce took the honors, and in the Big Skill group comprised of quarterbacks, linebackers, tight ends, and specialists, linebacker Alex Singleton and tight end Zach Ertz were the winners. So, there's that.

Must not have watched the film on Boobie.  Got to figure the JJAW is usual Spads propaganda.  Bruce Hector may be a message to Malik Jackson.  Hope he is right about Singleton but I had him at best as the #6 LB.  

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

DE, mistimed, horrible feet placement, might as well not have arms, bending head down while too upright, no bend in legs.   Not sure what’s being coached there.  Second clip, DE well balanced on feet with decent bend but hand fighting inside instead of a punch, that OL should win that one every time. 

There was a second clip? I saw one of Bo Jackson and thought the OL stuff wad over.

23 hours ago, Saltpeter said:

Always thought that was such a weird stat without context.

Right.  I'm sure JJAW's "contested catches" in college are even better..............because he can't get any separation.  

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