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2 minutes ago, greend said:

You could learn it's easy. It's all about eye,foot,hand coordination.

I wanted to, but my parents didn’t want me to buy a stick so they never taught me. A friend was going to teach me, but he got rid of the car. 

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2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If they brought him in to be a LT, it has a lot of meaning.  As a RG, there is no underlying meaning.  It's a clear win/win.

But sure...Pryor is a 6th round pick entering year 3.  Just last year, they went out of their way to make Brooks, who stands between Pryor and starting, the highest paid NFL interior lineman in history.  I think it's safe to say the Eagles aren't expecting Pryor to be a great long-term starter for them.  But that's obviously OK.

As far as Mailata is concerned, this doesn't really say much about him at all, for better or worse.

I think it says a lot about how they see their left tackle situation. If not Dillard, certainly what’s behind him. If Dillard were to miss time I’d be shocked if they didn’t move Peters over. I know they don’t like to interfere with two positions on the line, but it makes too much sense not to let Peters move to his natural spot. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I came in here ready to argue with everyone relentlessly about how this was a horrible move.  I was the captain of the "Peters is cooked" bandwagon.

And then I see Peters at RG.  This is the best of all worlds.  Dillard saves face.  He gets a LT mentor (and LT insurance) right on the line with him.  And the inevitable RG rotation with Pryor will be a lot less disruptive to the offense than the LT rotation.  

This move improves the depth/insurance at LT, improves the starting situation at RG, win/win.  The only hard part was getting Peters to agree to it.  I think once Peters realized that no one in the NFL wanted him to be their week 1 starter at LT, he knew that his options to play football were to either return here in this role or to wait it out for a mid-season LT injury.

 

Just now, RLC said:

Teams tell you what they think of their roster with action, not words. 

Bringing back Peters says they don't trust Pryor to be the RG and/or our backup LT options.

If they are bringing him to play RG, it means they think he was the best FA option to come in and play RG.  He's not going to play swing tackle while he's playing RG.  He could come on as a backup LT but he may not be the number 1 back up.  They may like Mailata over him vs. Peters at LT and Pryor at RG.  It does give them more depth and versatility.  

I think Peters at RG is about Peters.

He's no longer has the foot quickness for LT, which is why he was false starting too much, trying to get a step on the quicker pass rushers.

At RG, that's no longer an issue, it's more about phone booth quickness and explosion, which he still has.

The transition won't be that difficult, a lot of veteran tackles have successfully moved to guard in their later years.

Peters has the technique, footwork and power to handle elite DTs. And still has the foot speed to effectively pull, and the wiles to be a devastating trap blocker.

Won't surprise me if he's an allstar RG at 38.

They wanted to bring back Peters before Brooks went down. Brooks injury just gave them a new option to bring him in at RG. I don’t think this forecasts their feelings on Pryor or Mailata as much as is being spun in here.

Just now, eagle45 said:

I never really got into player personalities or geeking out over certain guys playing together (the excitement over Trotter and Spikes playing together past their prime, which ended with roster cuts, rings a bell).....but I'm sure those that do will enjoy seeing 2 of the best Eagle OL of all time, Peters and Lane, shoulder to shoulder.

Power is the last thing to go and RG is a power position in our system. I will be very interested to see how he plays with other hand down. He did it some when Chip was here and we ran unbalanced line. It could be fun to watch.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well... to your first question... we are bored, so conspiracy theory building and bashing fills the time.  We need something to discuss.

 

And there's really no guarantee that the Eagles, in fact, 'got one' (meaning a RG).  Peters has never played right guard.  And as far as we can actually know, based on his play in the NFL, Peters can play LT.  Not sure about RT.  That's projection, too.

Peters started his career at RT. Still a complete projection but he at least has a little experience on that side 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I think it says a lot about how they see their left tackle situation. If not Dillard, certainly what’s behind him. If Dillard were to miss time I’d be shocked if they didn’t move Peters over. I know they don’t like to interfere with two positions on the line, but it makes too much sense not to let Peters move to his natural spot. 

It gives a team that is repeatedly crushed by injuries layers and permutations of options, which is exactly what they want/need.

Dillard goes down early; Peters is your LT.  Dillard sucks early; Peters is your LT.  Lane goes down; Peters might be your RT too.  Peters makes RG better as a starter.  Hell, if there is an injury to Kelce or Seumalo, you might see Peters at LG with Pryor at RG.

As a 55 year old future HOF, Peters gives you the flexibility to move him around while keeping the young guys comfortable at one position.  

Maybe later in the year if Mailata is up for it, he'd be the guy to slide in at LT instead of Peters, but he hasn't really earned the right to be in this conversation yet.

It's a prototypical role for Peters at this point in his career, which helps the Eagles enormously.  The only problem was getting him to agree to it.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I need to learn to drive stick before the summer ends.

Honestly, shouldn't take you more than a few hours.  I had no idea how to drive stick.  Bought a car that was, taught myself on the way home.  Wasn't a pro right away but it's just coordination, knowing how the engine revs and driving how you want.

Soooo, you just run right now?

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2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think it says a lot about how they see their left tackle situation. If not Dillard, certainly what’s behind him. If Dillard were to miss time I’d be shocked if they didn’t move Peters over. I know they don’t like to interfere with two positions on the line, but it makes too much sense not to let Peters move to his natural spot. 

Maybe but Peters was a very good LT last season.  It's not like he's a scrub or even Vaitai.  He's a HOF player of course he's better than Mailata.  Does it mean they feel bad about Mailata? Does it mean Mailata's back is shot?  Jumping to those conclusions seems speculative.  Ultimately, Mailata has to earn a spot on the roster.  He may get cut but he's not going to get cut based on Peters.  If Dillard and Tega Wanogho look awesome then maybe he gets cut.  If Mailata shows progress then I think he will make the roster.  

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Peters started his career at RT. Still a complete projection but he at least has a little experience on that side 

 

5 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Power is the last thing to go and RG is a power position in our system. I will be very interested to see how he plays with other hand down. He did it some when Chip was here and we ran unbalanced line. It could be fun to watch.

I think he'll play very well at RG.  The only issue will be keeping him upright.  

Once upon a time, they had a rotation with Warmack and Wiz.  All things being equal, OL rotations are clunky, disruptive, and undesirable.  They mostly don't exist for a reason.  But limiting Peters' snaps to keep him fresh and give Pryor some work may not be the worst thing.

6 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Power is the last thing to go and RG is a power position in our system. I will be very interested to see how he plays with other hand down. He did it some when Chip was here and we ran unbalanced line. It could be fun to watch.

It's not like Peters fell off a cliff last year, he just has lost some first step quickness, and at 6'4 with average arms, he doesn't have the length to compensate.

At RG, that won't be a problem, and Peters has always been like an extra OL coach the last few years, I don't see him struggling for long with the transition.

 

This also makes me feel better about Dillard. Hopefully the staff truly believes he’s the better LT right now. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Honestly, shouldn't take you more than a few hours.  I had no idea how to drive stick.  Bought a car that was, taught myself on the way home.  Wasn't a pro right away but it's just coordination, knowing how the engine revs and driving how you want.

I learned to drive stick on a tractor where the throttle was on the steering column.  The trick was maintaining a firm grip on the steering wheel when releasing the clutch. After learning on that, driving a car with stick was easy.    

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

How many people can drive a stick shift these days?

My wife, daughter, son (not very well) and me.  Don’t own one now but had one until the end of 2016.  I can drive stick, tree, double clutch, tractor and motorcycle. I can also ride a three, five, ten and twelve speed.  I can even drive those stupid paddles.  It’s not that hard. I learned on cable clutch. One you master that, you can drive just about anything. 

But why is becoming the question.  With computerized transmissions and engines and electric on the horizon, it no longer makes sense.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Peters started his career at RT. Still a complete projection but he at least has a little experience on that side 

That was eons ago.  

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I haven't seen any pricing yet.  I'm guessing it will start in the 30s with some of the 4 door models reaching high 60s.  It's crazy how much cars cost anymore.  It's so interesting to me watching some of these restoration shows and guys talk about buying their 1970 Barracuda for $3,000 off the lot. 

My first car was an 89 Blazer. Loved it 

58 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Don’t drive in San Francisco, then. Other than that, yeah, stick is way better, especially in a fast car on a winding road.

Some hilly neighborhoods in Pittsburgh area aren’t that fun.   Anyone that mainly drives in city traffic will eventually tire of a stick as they aren’t much fun in stop and go. In my old age (at 60), I switched to an automatic. One of my cousins drives distance trips like I do and has had a Tesla since February.  He really likes it.  I barely ever use my cruise control, so I am not ready for that yet.

23 minutes ago, RLC said:

Teams tell you what they think of their roster with action, not words. 

Bringing back Peters says they don't trust Pryor to be the RG and/or our backup LT options.

This is all it says, the rest is in your imagination, that said if Dillard goes down I would expect a shuffle just because Peters is better than Jordan right now, but that's not why he was brought in, it's a benefit of bringing him not the reason for it.

Why would you want to drive a stick,?

I have too many vehicles now .  Still waiting on my mustang GT supercharged to be delivered.  if I were to buy another it would be new hummer electric. 

I have a h3 , hasn't seen the roads in over a year.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Maybe but Peters was a very good LT last season.  It's not like he's a scrub or even Vaitai.  He's a HOF player of course he's better than Mailata.  Does it mean they feel bad about Mailata? Does it mean Mailata's back is shot?  Jumping to those conclusions seems speculative.  Ultimately, Mailata has to earn a spot on the roster.  He may get cut but he's not going to get cut based on Peters.  If Dillard and Tega Wanogho look awesome then maybe he gets cut.  If Mailata shows progress then I think he will make the roster.  

What has Mailata been able to show that would give them any reason whatsoever that he’s ready to be the swing tackle? He hasn’t been healthy enough to show he’s up to the task, and he lost incredibly valuable offseason time to work on it. 

That doesn’t mean they’re down on him, but it certainly says something about his 2020 prospects. 

Well we know which RG in the league will have the most false start penalties 

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well... to your first question... we are bored, so conspiracy theory building and bashing fills the time.  We need something to discuss.

 

And there's really no guarantee that the Eagles, in fact, 'got one' (meaning a RG).  Peters has never played right guard.  And as far as we can actually know, based on his play in the NFL, Peters can play LT.  Not sure about RT.  That's projection, too.

Well listen to you Mr. Flat earther . 😜 That said I'm guessing the coaches feel pretty confident that he indeed can play r.g. and I think he will be rolling guys over. He is a very powerful guy and build well I just hope he doesn't fall asleep from boredom while playing the r.g. position

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