1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

That's not too surprising to hear, Florida or not Florida. Vaccines typically take years to develop and distribute and they're trying to pump this one out in a year's time. If I was pregnant, older, or had an underlying health condition, I'd be very hesitant. 

Yup. If you go here it explains how long it usually takes for the FDA to approve a vaccine. It’s about 10-15 years to reach the general public due to all the researching they are doing. I believe if i remember reading correctly the fastest a vaccine That has been approved in the past is 4 years. The flu vaccine now is different because the only thing they are changing in the process is the antigen which they are using data they collect to guess which flu strain will be the most prevalent that year. 
 

https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/vaccine_safety/science.htm

I’m not antivaxx. I am actually for it. but I’d be very skeptical being the first one taking a vaccine. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I have a meeting tomorrow that puts me in an odd position.

I have to meet with the "Head of School" and Athletic Director, followed by a meeting will all of our coaches.

We are supposed to discuss our "Fall Sports Recovery Plan" which I helped put together based on various different guidelines that have been published.

These people will be looking to me for answers and explanations on how this is all going to work, when I dont even really want to have these sports seasons. 

Cant wait till this one is over. 

I wonder how much money I can get when I sue for loss of enjoyment of life after that conversion.

My uncle is the athletic director for his HS in the Charlotte, NC area. Governor just came out today with the plan for schools in the Fall. It's one week of in school learning on a floating schedule with two weeks of remote virtual learning. He is in a similar predicament. No safe way to have Fall sports this year.

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not there. Im at a private school that doesnt really care that much about sports. The AD and coaches do, but the administration, teachers, most students and probably even about 50% of the athletes and 90% of the parents dont care either 

I wish our school would just announce they arent participating in the fall.

Haha oh nice! I was just assuming you were part of hazleton school district. 
 

I’m from selinsgrove and if it’s anything like it was when I grew up they’d all say F it and play anyways 

3 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

My uncle is the athletic director for his HS in the Charlotte, NC area. Governor just came out today with the plan for schools in the Fall. It's one week of in school learning on a floating schedule with two weeks of remote virtual learning. He is in a similar predicament. No safe way to have Fall sports this year.

 

Its nuts. Some schools will be on a rotating 6 day schedule where students only attend certain days and other students attend on the other days.

Some schools will have a group M-W-F and the other group T-R and then flip flip each week.

Hazleton district is giving families the choice of 100% in school or 100% online and you stick with your decision for at least a marking period. 

Other schools are changing based on the color of their county. 100% in school in green. hybrid in school/out of school in yellow. Or I guess school closes again in Red, not sure about that...

How can we have models like this and then tell all of the athletes its ok to come together for practice every day and games? It defeats the entire purpose of the way school will be structured.

 

The other problem is as soon as 1 or 2 kids in a league have it, and their whole team is quarantining for 2 weeks, certain sports will miss 5 or 6 games in that timeframe. That not only affects their own school, but each school that was scheduled to play them. The entire sports schedule for an entire league will be a complete mess as soon as a case happens. I dont even understand why we are going to start when its going to come to an end that easily. 

Ivy league and Patriot league have cancelled fall and apparently will try to play in Spring.

In high school you cant really do that because there are many kids who will play a fall sport, and also play baseball. Some schools may have enough kids to play anyway even if theyll be short a few kids, but a school like mine wouldnt be able to fill a boys soccer team and a baseball team at the same time. It cant happen probably in most schools.

 

I think we are all (trainers, ADs, etc) wasting a ton of time coming up with really elaborately detailed plans for a season that will be very short lived. I dont think this has been worth the time we are spending on it.

Goff got 33M/Y in new money, with 2 years left on his deal. 
Wentz got 32M/Y in new money, with 2 years left on his deal.

Dak has no years left on his deal, but is tagged. 

Why would he agree to that deal?

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Haha oh nice! I was just assuming you were part of hazleton school district. 
 

I’m from selinsgrove and if it’s anything like it was when I grew up they’d all say F it and play anyways 

Yeah the school I work at isnt part of the hazleton district. 

I can definitely see most of those central PA schools not caring and playing even if players had COVID.

Some of the guidelines published suggested not letting kids with asthma or other high risk conditions play a contact or collision sport.

I was like... youre telling me that every football player at Southern Columbia that has asthma on his physical is going to be told he cant play this year? Yeah... right.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its nuts. Some schools will be on a rotating 6 day schedule where students only attend certain days and other students attend on the other days.

Some schools will have a group M-W-F and the other group T-R and then flip flip each week.

Hazleton district is giving families the choice of 100% in school or 100% online and you stick with your decision for at least a marking period. 

Other schools are changing based on the color of their county. 100% in school in green. hybrid in school/out of school in yellow. Or I guess school closes again in Red, not sure about that...

How can we have models like this and then tell all of the athletes its ok to come together for practice every day and games? It defeats the entire purpose of the way school will be structured.

 

The other problem is as soon as 1 or 2 kids in a league have it, and their whole team is quarantining for 2 weeks, certain sports will miss 5 or 6 games in that timeframe. That not only affects their own school, but each school that was scheduled to play them. The entire sports schedule for an entire league will be a complete mess as soon as a case happens. I dont even understand why we are going to start when its going to come to an end that easily. 

Ivy league and Patriot league have cancelled fall and apparently will try to play in Spring.

In high school you cant really do that because there are many kids who will play a fall sport, and also play baseball. Some schools may have enough kids to play anyway even if theyll be short a few kids, but a school like mine wouldnt be able to fill a boys soccer team and a baseball team at the same time. It cant happen probably in most schools.

 

I think we are all (trainers, ADs, etc) wasting a ton of time coming up with really elaborately detailed plans for a season that will be very short lived. I dont think this has been worth the time we are spending on it.

Everything else in PA is getting canceled. It's probably just a matter of time

Why weren’t the riots canceled?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Everything else in PA is getting canceled. It's probably just a matter of time

Would think that if colleges are doing it it should trickle down.

But again, postponing fall sports to the spring isnt nearly as feasible for high schools. So maybe they wont see that as an option to follow along with. High Schools will likely have to outright cancel the fall season and hope to have winter sports.

 

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

Goff got 33M/Y in new money, with 2 years left on his deal. 
Wentz got 32M/Y in new money, with 2 years left on his deal.

Dak has no years left on his deal, but is tagged. 

Why would he agree to that deal?

Because he’s stealing money even at that salary?

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its nuts. Some schools will be on a rotating 6 day schedule where students only attend certain days and other students attend on the other days.

Some schools will have a group M-W-F and the other group T-R and then flip flip each week.

Hazleton district is giving families the choice of 100% in school or 100% online and you stick with your decision for at least a marking period. 

Other schools are changing based on the color of their county. 100% in school in green. hybrid in school/out of school in yellow. Or I guess school closes again in Red, not sure about that...

How can we have models like this and then tell all of the athletes its ok to come together for practice every day and games? It defeats the entire purpose of the way school will be structured.

 

The other problem is as soon as 1 or 2 kids in a league have it, and their whole team is quarantining for 2 weeks, certain sports will miss 5 or 6 games in that timeframe. That not only affects their own school, but each school that was scheduled to play them. The entire sports schedule for an entire league will be a complete mess as soon as a case happens. I dont even understand why we are going to start when its going to come to an end that easily. 

Ivy league and Patriot league have cancelled fall and apparently will try to play in Spring.

In high school you cant really do that because there are many kids who will play a fall sport, and also play baseball. Some schools may have enough kids to play anyway even if theyll be short a few kids, but a school like mine wouldnt be able to fill a boys soccer team and a baseball team at the same time. It cant happen probably in most schools.

 

I think we are all (trainers, ADs, etc) wasting a ton of time coming up with really elaborately detailed plans for a season that will be very short lived. I dont think this has been worth the time we are spending on it.

The only thing I know is that no one knows anything about how to handle school in the Fall.   Sports?   Non-essential.  Sucks, but that's the reality of it.  If the pro sports, in bubbles, can't get it right, how will teenagers get it right? 

15 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Why weren’t the riots canceled?

Because there's no money or publicity in that.

 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I just feel terrible for my nephew.  Senior year in HS.  Been working out like a monster and is/was looking forward to his final football season.  

That really sucks

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The only thing I know is that no one knows anything about how to handle school in the Fall.   Sports?   Non-essential.  Sucks, but that's the reality of it.  If the pro sports, in bubbles, can't get it right, how will teenagers get it right? 

yeah thats the other thing.... students will be separated by a split schedule in school and come together to play sports. Meanwhile athletes and non-athletes will still be hanging out on weekends regardless of their school schedule as well. 

Unless everyone is on complete home lock down again its just going to happen.

You gotta go 100% in school. Or 100% out of school. There is basically no in between.

For sports, you have to have them with no restrictions, or not have them at all. You can make 1000 rules, and we pretty much have, and yet we still wont be able to stop them from spreading the disease.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I just feel terrible for my nephew.  Senior year in HS.  Been working out like a monster and is/was looking forward to his final football season.  

Yup.  It sucks.  Lots of kids dealt with lost spring sports a few months ago, no commencement, no prom, etc.    I wonder if any of that stuff will even be able to happen come next June.  No clue.  Right now, I'm not sure.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah thats the other thing.... students will be separated by a split schedule in school and come together to play sports. Meanwhile athletes and non-athletes will still be hanging out on weekends regardless of their school schedule as well. 

Unless everyone is on complete home lock down again its just going to happen.

You gotta go 100% in school. Or 100% out of school. There is basically no in between.

For sports, you have to have them with no restrictions, or not have them at all. You can make 1000 rules, and we pretty much have, and yet we still wont be able to stop them from spreading the disease.

It's going to be a nightmare come the Fall.  I thought last spring was bad... nah, just a warm up for what lies ahead.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  It sucks.  Lots of kids dealt with lost spring sports a few months ago, no commencement, no prom, etc.    I wonder if any of that stuff will even be able to happen come next June.  No clue.  Right now, I'm not sure.

My son is going into first grade and we’re still waiting for our school plan. If I’m laid off permanently we’ll look into home schooling for a year. We might do it any way. 

As for sports and other extracurriculars, we’re not doing it unless it involves social distancing and masks. So no sports, obviously, and we’re not doing scouts this year. We sent my son to space camp last week for four days. Kids had to wear masks outside of snack time and social distancing was enforced (until pick up time, then it was a mess). Temperature checks were taken every day and parents had to wear masks for pick up/drop off. 

6 hours ago, bpac55 said:

What bugs me about LFF is they built it and took away the loudest fans as a home field advantage.  Look how Seattle built their stadium.  There is NO way those fans are more passionate and louder than Eagles fans if they both had the same style of stadium.  Had the Eagles build LFF like Seattle our HFA would be off the charts loud.  If anything, I like the roof idea like they did down in Miami but I think with snow that would be a problem.

Yeah I prefer Veterans stadium myself.  More enclosed and louder.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Fingers crossed. 

I bought 700 shares of MRNA right after the big dip in March...up over 150% since and probably to the moon after this news. 😎

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

My son is going into first grade and we’re still waiting for our school plan. If I’m laid off permanently we’ll look into home schooling for a year. We might do it any way. 

As for sports and other extracurriculars, we’re not doing it unless it involves social distancing and masks. So no sports, obviously, and we’re not doing scouts this year. We sent my son to space camp last week for four days. Kids had to wear masks outside of snack time and social distancing was enforced (until pick up time, then it was a mess). Temperature checks were taken every day and parents had to wear masks for pick up/drop off. 

the problem is that we are enforcing masks and social distancing in sports to the maximum extent possible but its not possible on the field/court.

I will be personally screening every athlete each day before all practices and games (logistical nightmare). But thats not going to catch anyone who is asymptomatic. 

How am I going to be sure any of these kids didnt travel somewhere stupid on the weekend? I can ask. They wont be honest.

How can I be sure no one ever shares a water bottle when a teammate forgets?

How am I really going to enforce 6ft apart on the bench at all times? I will try, and the coaches will help, but just like in football people will migrate to places they arent supposed to even without realizing it. 

What schools really have room to socially distance in locker rooms? How does football work without using a locker room?

Our coaches can comply with keeping groups in practice to 10 people or less but who is going to control who rides home with a kid assigned to a different group?

 

I can go on and on. We have rules for all of these things and many more. Realistically, its impossible to enforce 100% at all times. 

6 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Umm... no.  Football is meant to be played "in the elements".  This isn't baseball.

Meh.....that thinking applies to old school.  Not that there's anything wrong with that thinking but times have changed.  But I'd be more entertained if a game was played indoors, no wind, rain, snow.  Level playing field for all, no excuses.  Most of the time games played in the elements end up being a slop fest.  Eagles-Lions was entertaining a few years back but not many are.

23 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I just feel terrible for my nephew.  Senior year in HS.  Been working out like a monster and is/was looking forward to his final football season.  

Yeah it would have been rough to miss my senior year of track. 
 

Even worse... I was so ready to get out of my parents house, get out of my hometown, and go to college. That’s not really going to happen 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. If you go here it explains how long it usually takes for the FDA to approve a vaccine. It’s about 10-15 years to reach the general public due to all the researching they are doing. I believe if i remember reading correctly the fastest a vaccine That has been approved in the past is 4 years. The flu vaccine now is different because the only thing they are changing in the process is the antigen which they are using data they collect to guess which flu strain will be the most prevalent that year. 
 

https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/vaccine_safety/science.htm

I’m not antivaxx. I am actually for it. but I’d be very skeptical being the first one taking a vaccine. 

Don't worry they'll give it to the military first