6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Would be nice if wentz those last two years had amari Cooper, zeke Elliott and Michael Gallup all healthy For majority of the seasons compared to injury prone desean missing 14 games, alshon missing a ton in both seasons and running back roulette in 2018.  

I wonder how many of those 17 TDs Dak had vs playoff teams were rushing?  

22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

the problem is that we are enforcing masks and social distancing in sports to the maximum extent possible but its not possible on the field/court.

I will be personally screening every athlete each day before all practices and games (logistical nightmare). But thats not going to catch anyone who is asymptomatic. 

How am I going to be sure any of these kids didnt travel somewhere stupid on the weekend? I can ask. They wont be honest.

How can I be sure no one ever shares a water bottle when a teammate forgets?

How am I really going to enforce 6ft apart on the bench at all times? I will try, and the coaches will help, but just like in football people will migrate to places they arent supposed to even without realizing it. 

What schools really have room to socially distance in locker rooms? How does football work without using a locker room?

Our coaches can comply with keeping groups in practice to 10 people or less but who is going to control who rides home with a kid assigned to a different group?

 

I can go on and on. We have rules for all of these things and many more. Realistically, its impossible to enforce 100% at all times. 

You can’t win. It’s an impossible task. 

9 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I wonder how many of those 17 TDs Dak had vs playoff teams were rushing?  

Actually went and looked this up. Over the last two years against playoff teams during the regular season he’s had two rushing tds... both came against the eagles. Including the playoffs 4. 

29 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

the problem is that we are enforcing masks and social distancing in sports to the maximum extent possible but its not possible on the field/court.

I will be personally screening every athlete each day before all practices and games (logistical nightmare). But thats not going to catch anyone who is asymptomatic. 

How am I going to be sure any of these kids didnt travel somewhere stupid on the weekend? I can ask. They wont be honest.

How can I be sure no one ever shares a water bottle when a teammate forgets?

How am I really going to enforce 6ft apart on the bench at all times? I will try, and the coaches will help, but just like in football people will migrate to places they arent supposed to even without realizing it. 

What schools really have room to socially distance in locker rooms? How does football work without using a locker room?

Our coaches can comply with keeping groups in practice to 10 people or less but who is going to control who rides home with a kid assigned to a different group?

 

I can go on and on. We have rules for all of these things and many more. Realistically, its impossible to enforce 100% at all times. 

Piggy backing off your comment, if the NFL has a season, it’s going to be amazing to see how they pull it off with so many little new rules you never thought of before. Like water bottles, they all have to have their own. No longer can a trainer come out to squirt some water in everyone’s mouth during a stoppage. They can’t have just random cups of Gatorade 

40 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Meh.....that thinking applies to old school.  Not that there's anything wrong with that thinking but times have changed.  But I'd be more entertained if a game was played indoors, no wind, rain, snow.  Level playing field for all, no excuses.  Most of the time games played in the elements end up being a slop fest.  Eagles-Lions was entertaining a few years back but not many are.

Don't both teams play on the same field?    Yeah, build an all-weather team.   I don't like the track teams that are weak willed and cry babies.   Vikings - dome.  Cry babies.  Saints - dome.  Cry babies.  Etc.  

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

the problem is that we are enforcing masks and social distancing in sports to the maximum extent possible but its not possible on the field/court.

I will be personally screening every athlete each day before all practices and games (logistical nightmare). But thats not going to catch anyone who is asymptomatic. 

How am I going to be sure any of these kids didnt travel somewhere stupid on the weekend? I can ask. They wont be honest.

How can I be sure no one ever shares a water bottle when a teammate forgets?

How am I really going to enforce 6ft apart on the bench at all times? I will try, and the coaches will help, but just like in football people will migrate to places they arent supposed to even without realizing it. 

What schools really have room to socially distance in locker rooms? How does football work without using a locker room?

Our coaches can comply with keeping groups in practice to 10 people or less but who is going to control who rides home with a kid assigned to a different group?

 

I can go on and on. We have rules for all of these things and many more. Realistically, its impossible to enforce 100% at all times. 

I was at an outdoor bar this weekend and they blocked off spaces around the bar for social distancing so everyone who wanted a drink migrated to the same spot...
 

The social distance stuff is such a joke. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Piggy backing off your comment, if the NFL has a season, it’s going to be amazing to see how they pull it off with so many little new rules you never thought of before. Like water bottles, they all have to have their own. No longer can a trainer come out to squirt some water in everyone’s mouth during a stoppage. They can’t have just random cups of Gatorade 

Yeah. Honestly if the NFL has daily testing, maybe they can. In high school we cant. 

I know some schools wont be enforcing that rule. Because you cant seriously have a football player practice with 1 bottle of water. Most of them have multiple 10 gallon coolers and go through it all. You need to be able to refill a bottle. They need to drink. Dehydration or sickeling will kill them quicker than COVID will.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Don't both teams play on the same field?    Yeah, build an all-weather team.   I don't like the track teams that are weak willed and cry babies.   Vikings - dome.  Cry babies.  Saints - dome.  Cry babies.  Etc.  

Well I mean the Eagles are trying to build a track team with all the speed they have now.

Yes both teams would play on the same field but I'd rather not see players slipping and falling all over the place.  I'd rather see a fun, wide open game kinda like SB52 which was played indoors.  Most SBs today are played indoors or warm weather because they dont want the elements for the biggest game of the year.  The Indy-Chicago SB was raining and sucked.  The Seattle-Denver SB was cold and windy and sucked.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

the problem is that we are enforcing masks and social distancing in sports to the maximum extent possible but its not possible on the field/court.

I will be personally screening every athlete each day before all practices and games (logistical nightmare). But thats not going to catch anyone who is asymptomatic. 

How am I going to be sure any of these kids didnt travel somewhere stupid on the weekend? I can ask. They wont be honest.

How can I be sure no one ever shares a water bottle when a teammate forgets?

How am I really going to enforce 6ft apart on the bench at all times? I will try, and the coaches will help, but just like in football people will migrate to places they arent supposed to even without realizing it. 

What schools really have room to socially distance in locker rooms? How does football work without using a locker room?

Our coaches can comply with keeping groups in practice to 10 people or less but who is going to control who rides home with a kid assigned to a different group?

 

I can go on and on. We have rules for all of these things and many more. Realistically, its impossible to enforce 100% at all times. 

Seems pretty clear cut. 

Anyone who ignores all that at your meeting and insists on moving fwd doesn't have the kids best interests in mind.

9 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Seems pretty clear cut. 

Anyone who ignores all that at your meeting and insists on moving fwd doesn't have the kids best interests in mind.

Oh im not there to say we shouldn't play though. 

The PIAA didn't cancel sports, nor has our conference. 

It was my job to help come up with the plan to make it as safe as possible. 

But I just think it's stupid.  And I'll have to try explaining the rationale for all these rules to all the coaches tomorrow. Should be fun!

Yes, Covid is real and some people are dying, but they are inflating the numbers all over the place.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/lawmakers-react-to-fox-35-investigation-that-finds-discrepancies-in-covid-19-positive-case-numbers

They are counting 6 percent as 76 percent. That's a massive difference.

We may not get football and you can thank the people pushing the propaganda and scare tactics.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yes, Covid is real and some people are dying, but they are inflating the numbers all over the place.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/lawmakers-react-to-fox-35-investigation-that-finds-discrepancies-in-covid-19-positive-case-numbers

They are counting 6 percent as 76 percent. That's a massive difference.

We may not get football and you can thank the people pushing the propaganda and scare tactics.

Can we please stop making this political?

11 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Can we please stop making this political?

We are talking Covid and football. I'd be happy to make it political and say exactly who is pushing that agenda if you'd like. Outside of that it falls inside the bounds of the current discussion about the season being cancelled. We may not get football in part to hysteria over a spike that looks to be in part being generated by faulty numbers.

22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yes, Covid is real and some people are dying, but they are inflating the numbers all over the place.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/lawmakers-react-to-fox-35-investigation-that-finds-discrepancies-in-covid-19-positive-case-numbers

They are counting 6 percent as 76 percent. That's a massive difference.

We may not get football and you can thank the people pushing the propaganda and scare tactics.

Stop at Covid is real. Geez. 

31 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Stop at Covid is real. Geez. 

Real? Yes. Is the spike real? Yes. Is it as bad as it is being reported? Nope. There is a massive difference between 6% and 76%. It's not just being reported falsely in Florida either. Football was considering giving it a go when the numbers were lower after the quarantine. If this kind of crap keeps happening causing things like Philly cancelling things for 6 months or states talking about going back to quarantining it's going to take the NFL out as well. There is a difference between a problem and the spike hysteria that is being generated. If those false numbers keep being pushed we aren't going to have football.

8 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I was at an outdoor bar this weekend and they blocked off spaces around the bar for social distancing so everyone who wanted a drink migrated to the same spot...
 

The social distance stuff is such a joke. 

It's not a joke, the joke is that people don't honor it.  I work in a Continuing Care Retirement Community,  over 500 elders in Independent Living,  Assisted Living,  Nursing Home and Skilled Nursing.   Zero positive results for our residents.   3 teenagers working in housekeeping tested positive- we have established amazing protocols that include screening,  masks, social distancing,  testing and more..  A third of our residents suffer from dementia. It can be done, it is effective,  but if we don't buy in, it doesn't work.  

1 minute ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

It's not a joke, the joke is that people don't honor it.  I work in a Continuing Care Retirement Community,  over 500 elders in Independent Living,  Assisted Living,  Nursing Home and Skilled Nursing.   Zero positive results for our residents.   3 teenagers working in housekeeping tested positive- we have established amazing protocols that include screening,  masks, social distancing,  testing and more..  A third of our residents suffer from dementia. It can be done, it is effective,  but if we don't buy in, it doesn't work.  

I’m not talking about all of it. What I’m saying is you can’t open bars, gyms, schools, sports and expect ppl to social distance in those settings. 

34 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not talking about all of it. What I’m saying is you can’t open bars, gyms, schools, sports and expect ppl to social distance in those settings. 

True.  The selfishness is disappointing 

I have said it before I'll say it again ,mask should have been mandatory  from day 1.

Not only weren't they  but administration said they wouldnt help , yet here we are.

7 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

True.  The selfishness is disappointing 

It’s not selfishness. Those businesses have lost thousands and in many cases millions because of the pandemic. If they’re allowed to open, they will. 
 

Then when you open these places, where people naturally go to socialize in many instances, then it is natural for humans to congregate. 

I manage a gym, a smaller gym, and we clean the crap out of everything and make our guidelines well known. But no way can we keep ppl from coming in and talking to one another without getting within 6 feet of each. 
 

That’s the point I’m trying to make about football and sports in general. They can play the sport, huddle, etc but then have to go stand 6 feet apart on the sidelines... so stupid and pointless. 

11 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Per pff

 

Vikings OG Geoff Schwartz told me it was much easier moving from guard to tackle, or vice versa, than switching from side to side.

"If you look at most lines, the backup LT is the LG, or he's on the bench. Both teams I've played on, our backup LT was the LG.”

It seems it's a tough enough transition, without significant lead time, that teams would rather put a far less athletically able player on an island at left tackle than expect the guy on the right to swap sides in-game.

"It's very difficult for guys to be able to effectively play on both sides of the line without long hours practicing it,” Schwartz went on.

"That is why you don't often see linemen switching sides of the ball for injury or performance. Playing offensive line is a very technical position. Being a great athlete and a physical player can only take you so far if you don't use proper technique. You must drill over and over again to get the footwork and hand placement down. On top of that, mentally switching things over in your head can be tough at first. You’re used to reacting to movement on one side of the line of scrimmage, now it’s happening on the opposite side”.

 

 

https://www.pff.com/news/switching-sides

 

 

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/3/29/18287117/nfl-mailbag-offensive-linemen-switch-playoffs-2019-predictions

I have said this over and over. And over. This is a big part of why Vaitai is getting $10 M per year now and why Seumalo is such a bargain. Even the simplest thing, like which hand goes in the dirt; I’ve seen guys have to flip sides in mid-game and keep the right-handed stance on the wrong side because they couldn’t get off right. Awkward.

I'm most concerned about pass pro for Peters at RG.  He's flipped to the opposite on unbalanced lines in the past, and I dont think the footwork is that big a deal after the initial step or two drive blocking, and the pass pro set and knowing which direction the QB is set up in seems like a bigger challenge.

I cant remember who said it but , I remember a OL saying it's not as smooth a transition as you would think...he said its like switching hands wiping your a**.

The two hospital groups in my area (population of about 350,000) are at capacity due mostly to Covid. Arizona and Florida are both surging toward capacity due to Covid as well. 

That’s not due to faulty testing numbers and scare tactics.

You don’t want to trust the general testing numbers being reported, so be it, but pay attention to the ICU numbers.