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1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Eagles didn’t pass on anything 

Howie said himself they tried to move up and decided not to pull the trigger.

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    I mentioned this previously on this board, and in the past years ago on the other board.   I'm not sure Howie has ever come out and said it this plainly, but Howie is telling the truth here.   

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5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It took him so long to get on the field because he's not good.

Well yeah that too

 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Another dope focusing on a likely impossibility.   I'm still mad the Eagles didn't draft Jonathan Ogden over Jermaine Mayberry in 1996.  No wonder Ray Rhodes was fired.

Ehhh. There’s a big difference between those scenarios. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Another dope focusing on a likely impossibility.   I'm still mad the Eagles didn't draft Jonathan Ogden over Jermaine Mayberry in 1996.  No wonder Ray Rhodes was fired.

In addition to WR, they need an Edge as well.  What the hell was Howie thinking letting Young get nabbed ahead of them?  And in their division no less!

5 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

He's 100% right. about the last sentence. Based on what they passed on in Lamb, if he's what people expect, Reagor needs to be like our own Tyreek Hill for this to be a successful pick, because it always has to be evaluated with the context of what they passed on to make it, not just in a vacuum.

What did they pass on?   Jefferson?  Aiyuk?   Yes.   Lamb?  No. 

1 minute ago, PhillyMG said:

They didn't pass on Lamb.  They just didn't want to "sell the farm" to move up to get him....a decision that I agree with.

There was no selling the farm, it likely would have cost them their 2nd rounder. That isn't selling the farm. And by definition, that is passing. The trade was there, the Eagles declined. Now they better be right about it. Their WR position is a disaster, if the best guy you add in your offseason to fix that problem is Jalen Reagor he better be one of the NFL's best dynamic playmakers.

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes me at the fridge when i fumble the food but pick it up before five second rule then run back to the couch to not miss a pick. 

Lmao!!!!!!

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

That yards per route may be the stupidest and most pointless stat I’ve ever seen. 

1 minute ago, FTheCowboys said:

Howie said himself they tried to move up and decided not to pull the trigger.

That’s not passing on Lamb. They could have traded up to 1 if they wanted to badly enough, doesn’t mean they passed on Burrow.

3 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

Howie said himself they tried to move up and decided not to pull the trigger.

Do you know what deal he turned down?  Would you have been happy to get Lamb at any cost?

Lamb will produce as a starting outside WR in a well-oiled offense with other weapons distracting teams.  He's not going to be a stud in the NFL.  He won't.  Don't worry about it.

Jefferson...my #1 pick to avoid in the draft...is going to have one of the best rookie seasons.  He's a finished product and is also being plugged into a well-oiled offense.  He's going to be their Jordan Matthews.  The early numbers will be good.  And then he'll plateau and decline quickly.

Jeudy and Ruggs don't have QBs or OLs.  It will be tough sledding for these two, who could have made a bigger splash with different teams.

Reagor could be the most successful WR out of round 1.

2 minutes ago, Gator 12 said:

 

I doubt that very seriously. The Eagles talked to teams about trading up. Howie would have said it was for Reagor to save face, but instead said it was too costly. 

And that’s OK, but this reeks of BS. 

4 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

Howie said himself they tried to move up and decided not to pull the trigger.

Did he say what it would cost?   You only have part of the equation.   What if the price was the 53 and the first rounder next year?   You don't know how much it would have cost to get to 16.  

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

That yards per route may be the stupidest and most pointless stat I’ve ever seen. 

Julio has led the league in that like 4 of the past 5 years. But obviously it’s QB dependent. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I doubt that very seriously. The Eagles talked to teams about trading up. Howie would have said it was for Reagor to save face, but instead said it was too costly. 

And that’s OK, but this reeks of BS. 

I kind of wonder if howie wanted to move up for jeudy and not lamb. The smokescreen was we all thought it was lamb. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

That’s not passing on Lamb. They could have traded up to 1 if they wanted to badly enough, doesn’t mean they passed on Burrow.

That's not a fair comparison and you know it. C'mon man. There's a big difference between trading up a handful of spots to trading up to #1 overall pick. Every poster in here would have been elated if we traded up a few spots for Lamb. When you discuss deals and turn down a request, that is passing. We can debate this all night, we just aren't going to agree.

Just now, FTheCowboys said:

That's not a fair comparison and you know it. C'mon man. There's a big difference between trading up a handful of spots to trading up to #1 overall pick. Every poster in here would have been elated if we traded up a few spots for Lamb. When you discuss deals and turn down a request, that is passing. We can debate this all night, we just aren't going to agree.

Would you have been OK trading 53/21 for Lamb?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Did he say what it would cost?   You only have part of the equation.   What if the price was the 53 and the first rounder next year?   You don't know how much it would have cost to get to 16.  

this is the thing, a lot of people think it would only be a switch of firsts and 53...  but knowing how trades work, it could've cost (early) pick(s) next year too.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Did he say what it would cost?   You only have part of the equation.   What if the price was the 53 and the first rounder next year?   You don't know how much it would have cost to get to 16.  

I think we both know it wouldn't have cost 53 and a future first rounder to move up 5-6 spots. That doesn't jive with the comparable compensation. I got the sense from Howie it would have cost 53 and I'd have done it in a second.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I doubt that very seriously. The Eagles talked to teams about trading up. Howie would have said it was for Reagor to save face, but instead said it was too costly. 

And that’s OK, but this reeks of BS. 

Every team plays this game every year.  If I had a quarter for every time I heard these tweets that the Eagles would have taken their 2nd round pick in round 1 if that guy wasn't on the board, I'd..well...I'd have a few dollars.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I doubt that very seriously. The Eagles talked to teams about trading up. Howie would have said it was for Reagor to save face, but instead said it was too costly. 

And that’s OK, but this reeks of BS. 

Zierlein had the Eagles taking Reagor @ 21 in his last mock.  I would suspect he had some insight.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ehhh. There’s a big difference between those scenarios. 

Of course.  But we don't know the cost to move up for Lamb.  And frankly, I much prefer the sit tight rather than get stupid aggressive and go after Lamb.  Granted, I wasn't a big Lamb guy.  But, none the less, this team has mortgaged too many draft picks on failed aggressive moves.  Sitting still and landing Reagor (even over Jefferson) is absolutely a smart way to play it.  Having 53 available tomorrow with Reagor in the back pocket makes me feel WAY better about this draft than if we had Lamb and no pick until 103... maybe.  Might have had to offer that too to move up to 16.  We don't know how expensive it was.  Howie did say he wanted to hold on to his high 'picks' (plural).

Just now, ManuManu said:

Would you have been OK trading 53/21 for Lamb?

Absolutely. I wouldn't have thought twice about it. People here were cool doing that before the draft for Ruggs because no one thought Lamb would be available. I'd have done it for Lamb in a second.

6 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

There was no selling the farm, it likely would have cost them their 2nd rounder. That isn't selling the farm. And by definition, that is passing. The trade was there, the Eagles declined. Now they better be right about it. Their WR position is a disaster, if the best guy you add in your offseason to fix that problem is Jalen Reagor he better be one of the NFL's best dynamic playmakers.

Ah... so you don't know what it would have cost.

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