7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

How could a LB who didn’t show he could cover in a large sample size be a safe pick in round 1?

He instantly would have started and worst case scenario been a 2 down MLB for the next four years. His ability to play the run, blitz, and read and react would have made him a valuable asset. From anything I’ve read his coverage skills would have developed nicely. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

🤐I would have drafted Reagor at 21 if Lamb were still on the board...

I’m glad you said that. I don’t want to hang my hat on that. But I don’t see the hype with him. His best plays were missed tackles by the defense. Yes, moves by him, but not tackles NFL players miss. He can go up and get it. But I think Reagor has more evidence of that. And he’s not close to as fast or elusive. Reagor was my favorite since the beginning. Not saying he’ll be the best, but the one that showed me the most, especially given his size. A natural WR. His interviews kinda soured me, tbh. I honestly think Mims has the attitude I want as a player and has some of the skills I covet. And better size. But he’s not as complete as a player. I’m just happy we got the guy I initially liked as my first instinct from watching him play. I do covet interviews and attitude. But he was in a less than ideal situation. I trust this team and QB to bring out the best in him. Jefferson could be a great player, but I don’t think he’s as good a fit and didn’t show me as much in games. He’s not the highest floor, but I think his ceiling is as high or higher than any in the draft. 

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

🤐I would have drafted Reagor at 21 if Lamb were still on the board...

I would have drafted Jefferson.  Reagor would have been the second choice.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

That kid was made to play with Andy Reid. He is basically Brian Westbrook with better knees

5 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

Tons of posters in here were pleading with Howie to trade up tonight as the draft went on, starting at about pick 11-13ish. Go back and look.

How did people think the Eagles were gonna move up without giving that 53rd pick? I can't think anyone here assumed our late 3rd rounder would have done it.

A lot of those posters are the same in the GDT saying Eagles suck and seasons over at halftime week 2. It’s easy to say things in the moment. 
 

Personally, I think we would have been taken behind the woodshed to trade 53 to move up 5 measly spots to draft a guy at 16. 

@eagle45 <— Dis MF spittin 

I go to sleep happy tonight, but I have no idea how we'd beat the Chiefs in a SB matchup next year.  We still need work.

13 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

If the Eagles take another WR tomorrow they’re essentially telling JJAW that he sucks.
 

That’s like your company hiring not one, but two new people that have the same or a very similar role that you do shortly after they hire you. On top of that they had to bring in some temporary help because you clearly weren’t ready to execute your role. 
 

To me, that looks like added pressure. If you feel less pressure, time to find a new job. 

What's the guarantee the Eagles are going WR tomorrow? There are other positions to fill. Competition is always good, so it doesn't necessarily send any message to JJAW other than he has to come out ready to play and earn a spot. The offense was dysfunctional last year, partly due to massive injuries. JJAW found himself in a tough position as a rookie. It does not make him a bust right away.

Just now, eagle45 said:

I go to sleep happy tonight, but I have no idea how we'd beat the Chiefs in a SB matchup next year.  We still need work.

In fairness i don’t know how they beat the saints currently either. I think the saints adding sanders and Ruiz are two nice additions. 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Some people.

I’d say most people. I remember most saying 53 was off the table in a move up, and that was for 11-13. 

Reagor may not be as good as Jefferson, time will tell, but he's a better fit for the Eagles.

You're talking an offense with Sanders, Jeffrey, Ward, Ertz and Goedert, none of which are going to get deep (Sanders has speed, but wheel routes take a while to develop).

Adding an explosive WR as insurance for Djax means the Eagles will have at least one WR who forces safeties to play honest, opens the middle for the TEs and gives the other WRs room to get open. That was a big problem last year when Djax got hurt, you could cheat your safeties up knowing no one ran faster than a 4.55, and no one had explosive quickness.

Howie is reloading, not rebuilding.

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

53 was already above and beyond. I seriously doubt they asked for more. 

They could have asked for more because they didn't want to get out of that slot, as I pointed out.  They went CB.  Dallas lost a CB.  They wanted to move up earlier in the draft... so Atlanta had a target in mind.  Maybe that target was Terrell or maybe he was the consolation prize and their target was Henderson.  BUT... I was pretty sure the noise about Atlanta trying to move up came after the Henderson pick... and you would think that WR wouldn't be their target given Julio and Ridley already... but maybe they wanted a 3rd Alabama WR.  Seems unlikely though... CB makes more sense to me.  

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

A lot of those posters are the same in the GDT saying Eagles suck and seasons over at halftime week 2. It’s easy to say things in the moment. 
 

Personally, I think we would have been taken behind the woodshed to trade 53 to move up 5 measly spots to draft a guy at 16. 

I don't really look at it as how far you move up, it's who you're getting. If the Eagles moved up to 12 or 13 for Lamb, by that logic it would have been worth it because they moved up farther. But the end result would have been the same. They get CeeDee Lamb. Whether they move up one spot or 10 spots, you aren't "moving to 16" you are paying the price to get a player. A small difference that means a lot.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Depends on the WR. If it’s Pittman or Higgins, yeah. If it’s Hamler or Shenault, nah. 

I’m confident in saying this... 

If JJAW looked as good as Jordan Matthews, Reggie Brown, or even Nelson Agholor did in their rookie then WR being selected in the second round would be very unlikely. That’s how bad and useless  JJAW looked. 

10 minutes ago, Double said:

Darius Slay at pick 85 tomorrow and I’m happy.

Something tells me the Eagles will need to move up to grab him.  Might cost that extra 5th.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’d say most people. I remember most saying 53 was off the table in a move up, and that was for 11-13. 

But he went to the Cowboys!!!!

It's' now an emotional analysis.

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He instantly would have started and worst case scenario been a 2 down MLB for the next four years. His ability to play the run, blitz, and read and react would have made him a valuable asset. From anything I’ve read his coverage skills would have developed nicely. 

Valuable? Not pick 21 valuable. 

I don't like drafting RBs in round 2, let alone round 1.  But with what that RB brings to the table, I'm not sure how that Chiefs offense is supposed to score fewer than 40 points in their worst week.

14 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Exactly, why would the falcons trade and possibly miss on a corner they wanted so another team can get a receiver they don't need. Who is to say the eagles even wanted lamb at all? There is so many moving parts to this to just narrow it down to just eagles not willing to do what it takes to get lamb

As others have stated, Lamb going to that one place sorta sucks. But let’s be honest - Dallas neglected other glaring needs to pick him. I truly don’t believe adding him to that offense is going to turn them into some type of juggernaut. That team bagan to slowly cripple themselves the moment they poured money into Zeke.

At the bare minimum, until 53 is chosen, which most believe is the bare minimum it would have cost to move up for Lamb, it’s impossible to feel very much about it.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I'm calling BS.  No way Reid would think Helaire is better.  Reid loved Westbrook and called him the most complete back he ever coached.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I would have drafted Jefferson.  Reagor would have been the second choice.

I understand that. I think his floor is high. Higher than Reagor. But based on fit.. if he’s just a slot guy, he doesn’t address our need as well and I think Reagor has more tools. I think if Alshon was healthy and in good standing with the team, Jefferson would make more sense. But we need someone who can definitely play outside. 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

🤣  Would have loved to have seen that.  Before Jeudy and Lamb.  Would have been great to see the reactions around here.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Something tells me the Eagles will need to move up to grab him.  Might cost that extra 5th.

Screw it. Give up 166 for him too. Steal.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m confident in saying this... 

If JJAW looked as good as Jordan Matthews, Reggie Brown, or even Nelson Agholor did in their rookie then WR being selected in the second round would be very unlikely. That’s how bad and useless  JJAW looked. 

I don’t even know if it’s just that. Who can you rely on at wide receiver right now. Taking reagor out of the equation.

Jackson always misses time, he’s 33 now coming off a hernia surgery. He probably is going to be fine physically but he’s not reliable Week to week. Jjaw is an unknown it doesn’t have any off-season to work with the coaches. Jeffrey isn’t gonna play for the Eagles. Ward is about the only receiver we have I can say is somewhat reliable and he’s a slot guy. 

to me I think it makes a lot of sense if the Eagles move up in the second round to target another wide receiver to go with reagor. There’s guys on the board I think would fit well with reagor. And when we started this whole process before for agency I didn’t think they double dip I wouldn’t be so sure about that now

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reagor may not be as good as Jefferson, time will tell, but he's a better fit for the Eagles.

You're talking an offense with Sanders, Jeffrey, Ward, Ertz and Goedert, none of which are going to get deep (Sanders has speed, but wheel routes take a while to develop).

Adding an explosive WR as insurance for Djax means the Eagles will have at least one WR who forces safeties to play honest, opens the middle for the TEs and gives the other WRs room to get open. That was a big problem last year when Djax got hurt, you could cheat your safeties up knowing no one ran faster than a 4.55, and no one had explosive quickness.

Howie is reloading, not rebuilding.

Whoa, AF is talking about speed! Who stole his username with the new board? Is this E45’s clone account?