1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The Eagles didn’t want to give up pick 53. That was the deal breaker and rightfully so. There’s too many other potential needs to fill at that spot. 

It's not rightfully so, this is about helping out Wentz. If Lamb is as good as advertised it will always be worth it.

That 53rd pick better be a damn all pro.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

So in other words he's immensely talented and really TCU were only able to scratch the surface. 

 

Per Sheil...

Drops were an issue last year, but he had just six on 137 targets in 2018, according to Sports Info Solutions. Reagor also makes spectacular catches that help the quarterback.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Per Sheil...

Drops were an issue last year, but he had just six on 137 targets in 2018, according to Sports Info Solutions. Reagor also makes spectacular catches that help the quarterback.

He's a hell of a player and we should all be very excited. 

That said Lamb going to Dallas? Gulp.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Per Sheil...

Drops were an issue last year, but he had just six on 137 targets in 2018, according to Sports Info Solutions. Reagor also makes spectacular catches that help the quarterback.

I also like the fact that Reagor is not a bodycatcher. He extends and snatches it. That tends to translate well.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's a hell of a player and we should all be very excited. 

That said Lamb going to Dallas? Gulp.

Eh, that stuff happens. Good players going to other teams, I mean. You can't stop the other guys from trying to win too. You're only going to draft about 3% of the players in any draft. And in the long run, does it really matter all that much where the other 97% go?

23 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

It's not rightfully so, this is about helping out Wentz. If Lamb is as good as advertised it will always be worth it.

That 53rd pick better be a damn all pro.

Was just about to post something similar. You do 21 and 53 (assuming that’s all they wanted) all day for what every expert expects to be a #1 WR, especially if they plan on taking multiple swings in the draft to correct that very position anyway. Sometimes, you’ve got to take the risk. All we heard was "Hope” is not a plan and all I’ve seen tonight from Eagles writers is IF IF IF Reagor can fix "x” issue he’ll be a star. 21 and 53 will now face intense pressure from the fanbase as Lamb parades down many sidelines for the foreseeable future.

I’m just happy they took my guy. If I’m wrong, I won’t like it anymore. But I’m happy to have hope and not sitting here lamenting and piling on. I understand the concerns though. I just never saw anything with the top three that made me have to have them. I kinda let the consensus let me believe who the top 3 were and didn’t have enough passion to say they weren’t the best. But we got my favorite WR. Maybe not the best when all said and done, but the one I like the most when I watch them play. Each of the top three have a specific trait they do better than Reagor. But none do everything better. I’ve been wrong before and I’ll be wrong again. I could be wrong now. But I agree with the Eagles in their decision to stay put and the player they chose. Hooray for me. Also, hooray for @VaBeach_Eagle for making this possible. I was really lamenting the board ending. We haven’t missed a beat and I didn’t think that was possible. I love spewing emotional BS with you dudes. 

5 minutes ago, Makilavelli said:

Was just about to post something similar. You do 21 and 53 (assuming that’s all they wanted) all day for what every expert expects to be a #1 WR, especially if they plan on taking multiple swings in the draft to correct that very position anyway. Sometimes, you’ve got to take the risk. All we heard was "Hope” is not a plan and all I’ve seen tonight from Eagles writers is IF IF IF Reagor can fix "x” issue he’ll be a star. 21 and 53 will now face intense pressure from the fanbase as Lamb parades down many sidelines for the foreseeable future.

If the 53rd pick was that important to them, then ok. But they better nail the pick then. If that pick was worth so much to them that they couldn’t trade up to get the best WR in the draft, then whoever they get at 53rd needs to be a star or a 10 year starter. 

I'm happy with the pick. We haven't drafted a true athletic freak in a while

Around the 4 minute mark caplan basically says what a lot of us were when talking about jefferson and reagor and why they went reagor. 

43 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Eh, that stuff happens. Good players going to other teams, I mean. You can't stop the other guys from trying to win too. You're only going to draft about 3% of the players in any draft. And in the long run, does it really matter all that much where the other 97% go?

No but it sucks right. I mean they load their QB with weapons. We don't. 

Reagor over Jefferson is still upsetting my stomach. Yikes. 🤮

Just now, schuy7 said:

Reagor over Jefferson is still upsetting my stomach. Yikes. 🤮

Why though? Reagor is a better fit for what we need. 

So we need another WR, who should we target in the third or fourth? Because I don't see them going WR at #53.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Around the 4 minute mark caplan basically says what a lot of us were when talking about jefferson and reagor and why they went reagor. 

I'm sure his intel is very good. Much more fine with them taking Reagor over Jefferson than I am not trading up for Lamb. That said, he still needs to be right. If Jefferson turns into a star and Reagor flops, I don't know how anyone could trust this front office structure picking WRs in the draft... like ever again until the end of time.

They can redeem themselves in a big way by getting a stud many pundits had ranked much lower. That would be a good way of changing your reputation. But if Reagor isn't special? It would be a catastrophic blow to our future, and they'll need to change something in that front office. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. 😔

1 minute ago, FTheCowboys said:

They can redeem themselves in a big way by getting a stud many pundits had ranked much lower. That would be a good way of changing your reputation. But if Reagor isn't special? It would be a catastrophic blow to our future, and they'll need to change something in that front office. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. 😔

And here's the thing bud. Both Reagor and Jefferson could turn out to be really really good NFL WRs. Reagor was a better fit for what we needed. 

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Why though? Reagor is a better fit for what we need. 

So we need another WR, who should we target in the third or fourth? Because I don't see them going WR at #53.

I think going for such a specific need was very short sighted. You’re drafting at 21 for that player to be here for 10 years, hopefully. Could’ve added Hamler possibly in round two. 
 

I just think Jefferson is that much better than Reagor. 

10 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Reagor over Jefferson is still upsetting my stomach. Yikes. 🤮

I’m not really upset about that. It’s basically what I had been saying and Ute And the discussion has been for the past month On the blog.

None of us hated Jefferson, however we all knew the Eagles needed an outside wide receiver that could stretch the field. I think all of us would been fine if they took Jefferson if the Eagles believed he could play the outside wide receiver position better than any of the guys they had in the same tier group as him. I think the Eagles with their quotes about "fit” (meaning outside wr imo) after the pick and with the pick itself is telling you they do not believe Jefferson projects to be as good as reagor playing the outside wide receiver position Who likely were in the same tier. Caplan also said in that video one of the reasons why teams were down on Jefferson was because they didn’t value taking a slot receiver in the first round. They feel you can find that after round one. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And here's the thing bud. Both Reagor and Jefferson could turn out to be really really good NFL WRs. Reagor was a better fit for what we needed. 

They think he is. I think he is. Whether or not that proves to be true, who knows. Maybe Reagor doesn't play to his college tape leaving a bad defensive conference and going to the NFL. Maybe Jefferson proves to be a lot more than a slot guy. Maybe not. No one knows. Just saying, they better be right or they've lost all future trust in me, and they should anyone.

3 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

They think he is. I think he is. Whether or not that proves to be true, who knows. Maybe Reagor doesn't play to his college tape leaving a bad defensive conference and going to the NFL. Maybe Jefferson proves to be a lot more than a slot guy. Maybe not. No one knows. Just saying, they better be right or they've lost all future trust in me, and they should anyone.

Not you but just pointing out lamb played in the same crappy defensive conference. So when people go on and say reagor took advantage of a bad conference the same could be said with lamb playing in the same bad Defensive conference. I’d also add a school that is head and shoulders better than everyone in that conference nearly every year

51 minutes ago, blindside said:

I’m just happy they took my guy. If I’m wrong, I won’t like it anymore. But I’m happy to have hope and not sitting here lamenting and piling on. I understand the concerns though. I just never saw anything with the top three that made me have to have them. I kinda let the consensus let me believe who the top 3 were and didn’t have enough passion to say they weren’t the best. But we got my favorite WR. Maybe not the best when all said and done, but the one I like the most when I watch them play. Each of the top three have a specific trait they do better than Reagor. But none do everything better. I’ve been wrong before and I’ll be wrong again. I could be wrong now. But I agree with the Eagles in their decision to stay put and the player they chose. Hooray for me. Also, hooray for @VaBeach_Eagle for making this possible. I was really lamenting the board ending. We haven’t missed a beat and I didn’t think that was possible. I love spewing emotional BS with you dudes. 

I'm saying hooray for me as well, because Reagor at 21 is exactly what I wanted them to do if the other guys were gone.  He's the perfect fit for our offense, much moreso than Jefferson.

I think Jeudy and Ruggs were the only guys they had ranked ahead of him. 

And it would have taken much more than #21 and #53 to get up to picks 11 or 14.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not you but just pointing out lamb played in the same crappy defensive conference. So when people go say reagor took advantage of a bad conference the same could be said with lamb playing in the same bad Defensive conference. I’d also add a school that is head and shoulders better than everyone in that conference nearly every year

That's true, but I think even the biggest fans of the Reagor pick would acknowledge he comes with more risk than most guys in the first round given his lack of production, drop rate, and disappointing 40 time.

The difference between Lamb and Reagor is Reagor's positives are all projections... ie he played with a **** QB so once he plays with a real QB he should be much better. He put on weight before the combine so with losing some weight he should be much faster. With Lamb we've seen all of it. He's produced and he's dominated. There is no projection there aside from your normal projection you make with any NFL player, but Reagor's entire upside is almost completely based off what if's and projections. That's risky. I think too risky to be their primary fix at this position this Spring given how badly the need is. The variance with him is much greater than Lamb or Jefferson.

Btw, Caplan (who loves to say Btw) in that video e-a-g-l-e-s posted suggested the Eagles getting Hammler in the 2nd saying we could try and replicate KC's offense. 

Heh.  Wouldn't that be interesting....

14 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

That's true, but I think even the biggest fans of the Reagor pick would acknowledge he comes with more risk than most guys in the first round given his lack of production, drop rate, and disappointing 40 time.

The difference between Lamb and Reagor is Reagor's positives are all projections... ie he played with a **** QB so once he plays with a real QB he should be much better. He put on weight before the combine so with losing some weight he should be much faster. With Lamb we've seen all of it. He's produced and he's dominated. There is no projection there aside from your normal projection you make with any NFL player, but Reagor's entire upside is almost completely based off what if's and projections. That's risky. I think too risky to be their primary fix at this position this Spring given how badly the need is. The variance with him is much greater than Lamb or Jefferson.

In fairness reagor floor is lower than jefferson but I’d argue the ceiling is higher than jefferson if he reaches it. I rather take the risk if i believe he can reach it then go safe. 

Lamb it wasn’t going to happen cause the price tag was going to be way too much and Atlanta i don’t think wanted to risk the raiders taking Terrell unless they were severely overpaid and even then i don’t know. I think mayock would go Aj Terrell at 19. I think he settled for the OSU kid. 

i also disagree his positives are all projections. He has legitimate speed and he’s a good returner. Those are positives that on tape prove out. You can see it on tape. He ran a 4.47 at 206. He’s down to 195 and then ran a 4.3. Jefferson ran a 4.43 but on tape it’s not close to that. The projection of what he can be is normal with every player. Just saying Dwayne Jarrett, Charles Rogers and Mike Williams also dominated in college. all three didn’t do anything at the nfl level. So really not saying lamb is going to be that but just cause he dominated in a bad defensive conference doesn’t mean nfl Success or that his projection is just easier. 

dont Get me wrong i really liked lamb. But this comp to Hopkins i don’t really like. I think he reminds me more of Justin Blackmon minus the off the field baggage.