I think there is going to be tremendous RB value at pick 53 as well.  Going to be interesting to see who's available and if a trade down makes sense.

Just now, Utebird said:

In the slot where he projects he wouldnt have to worry about it.

Hamler is now my dream scenario at 53. He’s an instant impact in the slot.  
 

If you get lucky, maybe he adjusts to the Z and we get a Hill/Hardman situation going with Reagor/Hamler.

If not, Hamler in the slot and as a return weapon is still a damn good downside.

I'm gonna say it and get killed for it.  Reagor and our 2nd pick > Lamb.  We have too many other holes to address.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Pipe dream for me.

Hamler and Reagor would be incredible together.  
 

Im selling anything I hear though.  We heard Howie was hell bent on trading up for Lamb.  Definitely not true.  We heard they were sold on Jefferson if he’s there at 21.  Not true.

The media was so wrong on their insider info this year.

I really like Hamler, hes got a lot of speed and explosiveness and in the slot he could be scary down the seem.

Speed kills and the eagles can use more speed even with addition of reagor and appatently miles sanders has really been pushin for hamler.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

I'm gonna say it and get killed for it.  Reagor and our 2nd pick > Lamb.  We have too many other holes to address.

I hope to agree with this after they make the 2nd round pick.

 

Already said dream scenario was Higgins and trade up for Logan Wilson in the 3rd, but would be almost as happy with Shenault instead of Higgins. I'm enamored by the diversity our offense would have with Shenault, and in this situation we wouldn't have to feed him the ball more than 6-8 times a game which should help his longevity.

56 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Those too.  What's worse is how bad the families were at hiding in the background.  Haven't visited my parents, sisters, niece or nephew for weeks because of this crap.

Lifelong friends Dad passed few days ago from virus.  Private ceremony only tomorrow. Grew up with both of them, Ex-Marine. Good dude. Gonna stand outside the church/service tomorrow. Then watch the small procession to the cemetery. Nothing else I can do.

Going defense in the 2nd is my preferred scenario but if they do go WR again I wouldn't be mad. I wish they would get duvernay but I just feel like those guys never end up making it to our pick in the 3rd/4th round. By "those guys" I mean guys who are projected to go in the mid rounds but still seem like they can be starters at the NFL level. 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Hamler is now my dream scenario at 53. He’s an instant impact in the slot.  
 

If you get lucky, maybe he adjusts to the Z and we get a Hill/Hardman situation going with Reagor/Hamler.

If not, Hamler in the slot and as a return weapon is still a damn good downside.

Thats funny i was actually thinking the same that reagor hamler would be similar to tyreek and hardman.

Which showed to be pretty lethal.

With the way the rules are set up to favor passing being smaller at WR isnt as much a disadvantage as it used to be.

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

One last thing about Reagor and then I’m in full blown second round mode.

Before the draft process, I literally felt the 2020 draft would be a failure if we didn’t get Ruggs or Reagor.  And both were pretty indistinguishable.

After the combine, I figured...wow, what a disappointment, this guy dropped himself out of round 1.

Then pre draft I started looking at the game tape of all the WRs.  I had no real emphasis or draw to Reagor at this point.  And after seeing everyone‘s film, all I could think is why aren’t we all hoping for Reagor at 21?

Hope you are right.  Looks like he has some Tyreek Hill in him.  Paired with DJ, they could be a dynamic duo.  The field should really open up for the rest of our guys, including the other new WR's we draft (your next point).  Other teams are going to have to keep one or both safeties deep or risk getting torched.

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I'm gonna say it and get killed for it.  Reagor and our 2nd pick > Lamb.  We have too many other holes to address.

This.

Not that Khani will get killed, but that giving up #53 wouldn't be worth the difference between Lamb and Reagor.

19 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

After having a night to sleep on it, plus watching some more breakdowns of Reagor, I like the pick and understand it much more. I think had (i) Dallas not drafted Lamb at 17, and (ii) Reagor ran better at the combine, people would be in love with this pick. Seeing him on tape, plus his virtual pro day, I am buying that he just ran slow at the combine and the "real" 40 time is around 4.3. Here are my thoughts, which nobody asked for:

1. His vertical leap is insane, meaning he is much better on contested and 50/50 balls than a 5'11" guy should be. Some of the tape of him grabbing fade routes is impressive.

2. Watching the tape, he is quick as hell and runs good routes. Other players viewed him as the fastest guy in the Big XII, and he did a good job setting up corners.

3. His QB play was brutal -- a lot of the time he could have scored a TD with a better throw, ended up having to leap/dive for a poorly thrown ball.

4. He is a dynamic punt returner

5. He seems to have zero interest in blocking...can this be fixed?

As for Dallas and Lamb -- everyone needs to calm down. I LOVE that they went WR in round 1 instead of Chaisson or another impact defender. They swapped in Lamb for Cobb -- an upgrade, but nothing earth shatteting. Meanwhile, Quinn and Jones are still gone, LVE is still made of glass, Frederick is still retired and Dak Pedestrian is still their QB. They didn't get much better last night and did the Jerry thing -- went with the big name. 

This breakdown was good -- yes, the analysts are clearly big fans.

 

Wtching this, you can see why Howie fell in love.

I don't see Reagor as a workhorse, 80 catch WR, rather, a tinker toy who can make plays in various roles, and forces defenses to key on him, just like Djax.

His value will be in attracting attention, with true big play ability he'll force safeties to always know where he is on the field.

As far as 40 times, he bulked up, he'll probably shed 5 lbs, he doesn't have the frame to take that 90-100 catch beating, but he'll make 2-3 key plays a game.

5 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I'm gonna say it and get killed for it.  Reagor and our 2nd pick > Lamb.  We have too many other holes to address.

I'm with you, until the eagles pick some high motor fastball DE from little sisters of the blind community college 

2 minutes ago, obedt said:

Already said dream scenario was Higgins and trade up for Logan Wilson in the 3rd, but would be almost as happy with Shenault instead of Higgins. I'm enamored by the diversity our offense would have with Shenault, and in this situation we wouldn't have to feed him the ball more than 6-8 times a game which should help his longevity.

I really like higgins as well but i think hes the first pick today.

Cincy needs a WR and im not sure they pass on higgins.

While I have been very down on expecting anything from Desean in 2021, if we do not go WR in round 2, I hope seeing Desean and Reagor in this offense together...however brief it may be...teaches these coaches and scouts about the direction of the NFL.

If we don’t nab Hamler but Desean/Reagor look awesome together this year, then maybe they’ll see the light and get another one of them in 2021.

Just now, eagle45 said:

While I have been very down on expecting anything from Desean in 2021, if we do not go WR in round 2, I hope seeing Desean and Reagor in this offense together...however brief it may be...teaches these coaches and scouts about the direction of the NFL.

If we don’t nab Hamler but Desean/Reagor look awesome together this year, then maybe they’ll see the light and get another one of them in 2021.

This would be my preference, honestly. There are a few players I think are better WR than Hamler available. Would be fine getting another faster player in the future

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of course there is.  There’s a ton of fans that are trying to convince themselves to be content and happy with this pick.  But that’s the same every year.  Did it with Goedert, Barnett and Dillard.  All just meh guys.  Not Goedert is good enough player.  First round worthy at this point?  I don’t know.  Obv it’s because he hasn’t been the starter.  But that goes back to my point.  It’s was an ok pick.  Not a home run.  

Yeah.  Because only good to great players are picked in the top 10.  Got it.  

You read my post differently to what I intended. There were various here prior to the pick wanting Reagor. That's completely different to convincing yourself after the fact. 

14 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Regarding Reagor, in addition to his unwillingness to block, I think his other main issue is he runs too fast at times which makes him lose his footing.  This problem should be correctable though.  He has to learn when to slow down a gear to make a cut and then turn it back on when he is past the defender.

I totally get what you're saying but it's funny to think of this as a continuance of the old EMB concern about us scoring too quickly, maybe 2009?

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

100% agree.  He is not a small WR.  Been saying it all along he is like Steve Smith was on the Panthers.  I too want to see him paired with a big WR but I would rather Pittman.

Gotcha.  I'm not married to any particular name at WR, so Pittman would work for me too.    I just want to see the Eagles add legitimate talent...and speed to the WR position.    

I still think #53 is probably the right place to get a one of the top stud LBers, and see what WR's are left at #103.   But I hope Howie is at least tempted to go WR again in Round 2 for the right guy.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s redundant at this point.  We’re going to go with a 3rd round grade corner or safety in the 2nd.  Because Howie.  

I’d strongly argue Hamler is not redundant.  Having more than one burner who threatens all levels of the field at the same time is not like having two punters on the field at the same time.  

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I really, really don’t like trading down in round 2.

Round 1 is burdened with expectations where you NEED production and really must balance a high floor with potential.

Round 2 is when you can have some fun with higher risk guys and huge talent.  Sitting at 21, we are right on the back end of being able to capitalize on those guys who fall. 

Trade back any further and we are just going to get guys that most likely project as backups even in optimistic scenarios. Trading back in round 2 to trade up in round 3 just doesn’t do anything for me.

If anything, I think they could move up in the 2nd round given who is on the board.  

 

27 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I really, really don’t like trading down in round 2.

Round 1 is burdened with expectations where you NEED production and really must balance a high floor with potential.

Round 2 is when you can have some fun with higher risk guys and huge talent.  Sitting at 21, we are right on the back end of being able to capitalize on those guys who fall. 

Trade back any further and we are just going to get guys that most likely project as backups even in optimistic scenarios. Trading back in round 2 to trade up in round 3 just doesn’t do anything for me.

I agree with this, especially this year.

Right now there is a good chance a legit starting caliber LB, DB, OT, DE drops to #53.    That is in addition to the possibility of yet another excellent WR prospect.

Most years the guys that "fall too far" in Round 2 get scooped up between #50 and #80.   Then the rest of Round 3 is usually prospects with staring caliber talent but major question marks who will need some  development time.    Projected Day 1 starters at interior OL and RB can still be found deeper in Round 3 and into Round 4.    But most years by early Round 3 the skill players at key positions (DB, WR, DE, OT) are mostly picked clean.     After that the skill level guys with starting potential are mostly medical or character risks.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s redundant at this point.  We’re going to go with a 3rd round grade corner or safety in the 2nd.  Because Howie.  

I see what you did there😉

Hamler i think is a slot guy, same was said about desean as well and hamler and desean size and athletic profiles are almost identical.

Id rather have speed redundancy then a bunch of big tall guys that work the middle of the field.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

OK, good night sleep.  Still miffed that the Cowboys got Lamb.  Leading up to the draft the conversation was if one of the top WR falls to 14-16 the Eagles need to trade up to get him.  Well the best WR in the draft did and we will never know how hard the Eagles tried, if at all to get ahead of Dallas.  Now we have to face Cooper, Lamb, Gallup, Zeke and Dak.  I think McCarty will have them playing better than Garrett as well.  It's Eagles vs. Cowboys for the East and I don't like how we match up as of TODAY.  Let's see how the Eagles keep building this team. 

If we didn't get CeeDee the WR I wanted was Reagor.  He's a compressed spring just waiting to explode every play.  He isn't a little guy.  When I see his game I see a mixture of Steve Smith, Dante Hall and DeSean Jackson.  He's rocked up, compact and well built.  Another thing is he can learn from D-Jack now.  Their games are very similar and it will be great for him to learn how to bring his game from college to the NFL.  I'm not mad at the Reagor pick at all.  Let's also remember that he has Carson Wentz now.  Jefferson will be good with the Vikings but he wasn't what the Eagles need.  We all want more play makers and explosion in the offense and that's what Reagor brings.  Jefferson would add a steady presence but not the big play.  Reagor does.  He is also your new PR.

I would love to see them pair him with Michael Pittman on day 2, if he is there.  I think we see a run on WR early in round 2 so either the Eagles will have to move up or a good defensive player will fall in to their laps.

Let's see how they finish this draft.  I've gotta get over the Cowboys getting Lamb, just sucks seeing your favorite player go to the hated rivals.  

The bolded is opinion, and two different NFL GMs showed that in their opinion, he was not.