For the "why didn't we trade up" crowd, interesting nugget from Kapadia. Out of 12 drafts, Dimitrioff and the Falcons have traded back 0 times in the first round. Denver likely not trading back, Tampa traded up so they obviously wouldn't want to trade back, that means Eagles would have to get up to 13 and trump a one spot move back for a 4th round pick that the 49ers received.  

8 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Because of social distancing (Carson not getting together with his receivers) and no training camp this year, the speed guys will be ahead of the non speed guys for their rookie year.  You can just ask them to run a few routes and they will still take the top off of the defense.  This bodes well for the Eagles (Reagor).

Yes, thank you.

Every year, people say the highly productive low upside guys are the plug and play ones.  That's who we normally draft and it takes them 2-3 years to adjust to the speed of the NFL.    They can't contribute until they have completely MASTERED the position.

The explosive guys are the ones who manage to contribute early because they can win matchups against NFL competition early in their development despite a lack of polish.

That's an advantage to Reagor and Ruggs as rookies.  Hurts Jeudy, Lamb, Jefferson.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think he is closer to 53.   Interesting that Mel had Winfield higher than him or Delpit last night. 

I've got Davis waaaaay above Delpit.

34 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Dak passed for nearly 5000 yards last year.  He won't get much more adding Lamb.  Their offense functions best when they run the ball.

Yup. Threw for almost 5k and still lost the division in a year where the entire division was complete garbage and they really should have ran away with it. They have to nail the rest of this draft 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I overemphasize speed at WR because of how the game is played.  It's also a downhill, straight ahead "athlete" position.  

DB, despite needing to cover those downhill athletes, has a few more moving parts.  Speed is great.  Some may say it's required.  But they need to backpedal, turn their hips, read body language, read the qb, and not bite on false moves.  All of that gets wrapped up into "coverage."  "Coverage" for a DB is my "speed" for a WR.  With the way the game is played, if a DB can flat out cover, I don't care how physical they are, I don't care if they generate picks, and I don't care if they can tackle.

If I see "coverage" considered a weakness for a safety, take them off the damn draft board or make them a linebacker.  I don't like these 6'2" 215lb safeties who can't match up against WRs.

Don't forget why you liked Higgins in the lead up (think it was you). He knows how to to create separation quickly. I read draft reports and see similarities to JJAW, but he plays much differently imho. And he has enough speed to go along with his length to be a factor down the field

Just now, obedt said:

Don't forget why you liked Higgins in the lead up (think it was you). He knows how to to create separation quickly. I read draft reports and see similarities to JJAW, but he plays much differently imho. And he has enough speed to go along with his length to be a factor down the field

Higgins is a guy I wanted to hate based on scouting reports, workouts, what I prefer at the position, and fit here.  So I haven't really been calling for him.  But when I watch him play, I can't hate him.  He looks really good.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think he is closer to 53.   Interesting that Mel had Winfield higher than him or Delpit last night. 

Terrell Burgess is a name to watch in the 3rd, although they might have to move up to get him. After him there's no safety worth drafting today IMHO. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

For the "why didn't we trade up" crowd, interesting nugget from Kapadia. Out of 12 drafts, Dimitrioff and the Falcons have traded back 0 times in the first round. Denver likely not trading back, Tampa traded up so they obviously wouldn't want to trade back, that means Eagles would have to get up to 13 and trump a one spot move back for a 4th round pick that the 49ers received.  

IMO howie tried to get up but found it would be to costly to do and the team needs picks to get younger and better depth.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Higgins is a guy I wanted to hate based on scouting reports, workouts, what I prefer at the position, and fit here.  So I haven't really been calling for him.  But when I watch him play, I can't hate him.  He looks really good.

Might want to another vid before the draft just in case haha. Don't want you to get too upset if my dream scenario holds.

7 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

 

This video had been posted in the old board. He's top 3 in the class in terms of making DBs look foolish. Just turns them around a lot more than what you see out of most prospects.

17 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Yup. Ill say it again. Reagor is a violent route runner.

Reagor was a safer pick than Ruggs for a lot less.  He might not accelerate quite as fast as Ruggs but their top speed is similar and Reagor has a higher ceiling.

1 minute ago, obedt said:

This video had been posted in the old board. He's top 3 in the class in terms of making DBs look foolish. Just turns them around a lot more than what you see out of most prospects.

I know, I posted it 🙂  Wanted to make sure no one misses it.

 

2 minutes ago, obedt said:

This video had been posted in the old board. He's top 3 in the class in terms of making DBs look foolish. Just turns them around a lot more than what you see out of most prospects.

Glad you found and posted this.

This video when i saw it a few weeks ago sold me on reagor.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

For the "why didn't we trade up" crowd, interesting nugget from Kapadia. Out of 12 drafts, Dimitrioff and the Falcons have traded back 0 times in the first round. Denver likely not trading back, Tampa traded up so they obviously wouldn't want to trade back, that means Eagles would have to get up to 13 and trump a one spot move back for a 4th round pick that the 49ers received.  

I made my wife watch the draft with me last night because of social distancing, even though she had zero interest.  I said to her when SF was on the clock at #13 we had our chance to trade up for Lamb/Jeudy -- but I realized quickly there was no chance:

TB saw Wirfs still on the board and jumped to trade with SF, taking away #13 and 14

DEN was always taking WR at #15

ATL was rumored heavily to be trading UP in Round 1 to get a CB; no chance they were trading back to #21

I knew DAL at #17 were taking Lamb and my wife laughed at my pain  lol .... the player was just too good to let pass by, even though WR was not the Turds primary need.

Just curious, what is our Eagle experience with TCU players?  I can't recall any offhand.

7 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

IMO howie tried to get up but found it would be to costly to do and the team needs picks to get younger and better depth.

Based on the Reagor pick I think he absolutely checked in to see what the cost was for Ruggs. I also think he checked in on Lamb. I think if both were switched, Lamb to Raiders and Ruggs was at 16 you would have seen a more motivated Howie. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Just curious, what is our Eagle experience with TCU players?  I can't recall any offhand.

Big V

14 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

 

Every eagle fan reagor doubter should watch this

Just now, Lindermann said:

Big V

Worked out very well.

Eagles using day 3 picks on RBs/OL & day 2 picks on LBs/S/CB = good.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I made my wife watch the draft with me last night because of social distancing, even though she had zero interest.  I said to her when SF was on the clock at #13 we had our chance to trade up for Lamb/Jeudy -- but I realized quickly there was no chance:

TB saw Wirfs still on the board and jumped to trade with SF, taking away #13 and 14

DEN was always taking WR at #15

ATL was rumored heavily to be trading UP in Round 1 to get a CB; no chance they were trading back to #21

I knew DAL at #17 were taking Lamb and my wife laughed at my pain  lol .... the player was just too good to let pass by, even though WR was not the Turds primary need.

Yup, I had the same thought process up to the Cowboys pick. I think the sensible pick there was Chaisson but Jerruh couldn't help himself. 

1 minute ago, Lindermann said:

Big V

and Pryor

Just now, RLC said:

Worked out very well.

Eagles using day 3 picks on RBs/OL & day 2 picks on LBs/S/CB = good.

5 picks over next three rounds.  Lots of potential to improve the defense and get another playmaker or two.  

Fingers crossed that Howie doesnt do anything dumb

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Just curious, what is our Eagle experience with TCU players?  I can't recall any offhand.

There is vaitai. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yup, I had the same thought process up to the Cowboys pick. I think the sensible pick there was Chaisson but Jerruh couldn't help himself. 

Still could prove to be a good pick depending how the rest of their draft goes. But he doesn't make their offense any more dangerous than it was with Cobb 

With the exception of one game (when Jackson played), Wentz has never had anyone who creates as much separation as Reagor will.  It will be nice for him to have a larger window to throw the ball.  And if he hits him in stride, its over.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I made my wife watch the draft with me last night because of social distancing, even though she had zero interest.  I said to her when SF was on the clock at #13 we had our chance to trade up for Lamb/Jeudy -- but I realized quickly there was no chance:

TB saw Wirfs still on the board and jumped to trade with SF, taking away #13 and 14

DEN was always taking WR at #15

ATL was rumored heavily to be trading UP in Round 1 to get a CB; no chance they were trading back to #21

I knew DAL at #17 were taking Lamb and my wife laughed at my pain  lol .... the player was just too good to let pass by, even though WR was not the Turds primary need.

I do think you could have convinced the Falcons to make a trade but you were going to have to Severely over pay for them to make the move. I think Atlanta was fearful the Raiders would take AJ Terrell at 19 so they were going to make you extremely overpay to move back and add on the Dallas factor they probably also use that as leverage if you wanted to move up. It wasn’t gonna happen because the Eagles aren’t in a position to give up major picks just to move up five spots for one player