1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I know people are going to quote Reagor’s 4.47, and I’m just a dude on a message board, but there’s no chance that’s his true speed. He carried too much weight. I promise he’s a 4.40 at worst guy. 

Yup.  I just had an hour argument with my buddy who hates the pick.  He's complaining too slow, not elite conference.  Game speed game speed game speed.  

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

4.40 at worst guy.

I would say 4.35 at worst.

1 hour ago, Gator 12 said:

I’m not terrified. The opposite. They have too many mouths to feed right now, you could realistically expect Lamb to take over Cobb with 50 and 800. Nothing crazy but solid.

it just sucked to watch him fall and start thinking..can we actually get him?? Then bam goes to Dallas.

Very happy with our pick of Reagor 

I might be in the minority but I didnt really care for him.  If we got him then ok cool.  But I didnt want to trade up for him.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s redundant at this point.  We’re going to go with a 3rd round grade corner or safety in the 2nd.  Because Howie.  

More speed is redundant??

When Carson is running for his life and looking downfield, you don't think having more guys who can break free and get deep is better than having wrs locked up with defenders watching Carson get killed?

 

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I would say 4.35 at worst.

Yup. I was being conservative. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Yup. I was being conservative. 

It seems pretty clear that he was their preferred target at 21.  I bet they just didn't foresee Lamb dropping like he did.  

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I'm pretty sure they'll be able to find a state that will let them unofficially get together to throw the ball around.

Last year, Carson had a workout in Houston and before that in ND.  Could do that again but have to be smart about it.   Neither state is closed entirely.   Check everybody for the virus beforehand.  Rent a bunch of rooms in a hotel and its conference room.  Do a square set up with seats six feet apart.  Cater the food.  Transport in a full sized bus seating several seats apart.  Lots of hand sanitizer for hands and balls.   Limited on recreational bonding activities.  But so is everyone else.  Suspect flying isn’t a huge issue because I hear the flights are pretty empty.  I think it can be done.  Right now players are in Phase One virtual workouts.   I think Phase 2 is still scheduled for May 18.   (Post draft camps). Bet teams have a plan for doing that as safely as possible.  Probably includes testing and no press or video press only.   As far as I know, OTAs are still targeted for June.  May not be time for receiving bonding period. 

2 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

More speed is redundant??

When Carson is running for his life and looking downfield, you don't think having more guys who can break free and get deep is better than having wrs locked up with defenders watching Carson get killed?

If that's the case, a solid OL would be better than a speed guy.

 

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We might not be desperate anymore, but I’d happily trade for Samuel or flip Rasul for Pettis. 

Is anyone concerned about Pettis...both personality and injury history wise?

Pettis seems like he might have one of those fragile personalities?    Maybe even Algholor-ish?

I am all about flipping Rasul for another player swap that could contribute in another area...but I do question a little Pettis' desire to compete.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Howie’s not going to draft two small fast wr/return guys with his first two picks.  

That’s how i feel. If JJAW would’ve worked out last year i could’ve seen hamler as a more of an option even with having JJAW and reagor as he might be just a good value pick then. However i do think a WR is in play if Higgins and Shenault fall to 53. They are both bigger type receivers. Frankly shenault can do a bunch of different things and played all 3 WR positions in college. Underrated aspect with shenault is let’s say the eagles wanted to save a roster spot at RB this year. Shenault can also be your 4th running back like a ty Montgomery did as he played running back in college and at 6’1 226 would be effective especially as the type of runner he is. 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Weddings & graduations too.  
 

Lots of life moments that rival, if not exceed the NFL draft have been isolated. Easy for me to say because none of them have been cancelled on me.  But it’s selfish to get all those people together for the draft.  

Funerals also.

I'll add: my wife has 3 cousins who were due to have weddings between March and Labor Day this year.  The one in March has already been postponed a full year.  The one that was due Memorial Day weekend, has been postponed to the week before Labor Day weekend.  And the one for Labor Day weekend is still in limbo for now.

 

We had rented a house for the wedding Memorial Day weekend (my wife's family's idea... I want no part of being at the Jersey Shore Memorial Day weekend), but we don't know if that house rental will be an option, if we'll get a refund or anything moving forward.  Things are very complicated.

3 minutes ago, Rhinoddd50 said:

Is anyone concerned about Pettis...both personality and injury history wise?

Pettis seems like he might have one of those fragile personalities?    Maybe even Algholor-ish?

I am all about flipping Rasul for another player swap that could contribute in another area...but I do question a little Pettis' desire to compete.

Pettis had a really good rookie year and then last year they just got really down on him and he never recovered from it.
 

The fact is though rasul Douglas is going to make $2.3 million against the cap in 2020. I don’t see him being on the team at that price. So if you trade him you save 2.1 million and I’m guessing the team taken them on doesn’t Exactly value him at 2.1 million so you’re gonna have to take a guy that you might have to take a risk on. It’s going to be an under performer for an underperformer

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Most guys you pick on the second day spend a year on the PS or the end of the bench, play STs their second season and maybe are in the rotation (top 30 or so) their third season.

Every so often you hit paydirt (Kelce), but you also cut half of them.

So if you can get a solid young player like Ridgeway for a 7th or a player who can give you a year or two in the rotation, you're ahead of the game.

You are dating yourself.  That's the old format.  Day 2 picks now are Round 2 and 3, and those guys should at least be valuable role players early... if you do it right.

 

Day 3 picks are rounds 4-7 where what you are talking about happens.

 

If we don't trade for Curtis Samuel, he's got one year left on his contract and will be putting up very scant numbers in that 2020 Panthers offense as the #3 WR.

Desean walks in the offseason and takes $10m off the books, not to mention Alshon, who I don't even consider to be on the roster.

Samuel would be a very good and reasonably valued FA signing next offseason.

 

12 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Howie’s not going to draft two small fast wr/return guys with his first two picks.  

He should if he's the BPA on their board.  I strongly suspect they will go o-line or secondary tomorrow.  

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

They drafted him high second, so I'm sure that's what they want, but that's crazy.  He's got 1 year left on his deal, is guaranteed to walk next year, and hasn't fully blossomed as a WR.  

2020 4th does it for me.  They may get an offer for a 2021 3rd, which I wouldn't be wild about.

I feel like the Eagles zoned in on this pick months ago. Didn't someone say this was their #2 on their board?

At least Reagor is better than Brown, John Ross, Mecole. I think he could be the Tyreek Hill of the NFC. Worst case scenario is he is a Brandin Cooks type guy. 

Those concentration drops worry me though. I saw a few this morning and it reminded me of Agholor. It made me cringe. This guy doesn't run any comebacks either. idk. His route tree at TCU was very limited. 

It feels like a gamble. 

1 minute ago, AzBirdGang said:

I feel like the Eagles zoned in on this pick months ago. Didn't someone say this was their #2 on their board?

At least Reagor is better than Brown, John Ross, Mecole. I think he could be the Tyreek Hill of the NFC. Worst case scenario is he is a Brandin Cooks type guy. 

Those concentration drops worry me though. I saw a few this morning and it reminded me of Agholor. It made me cringe. This guy doesn't run any comebacks either. idk. His route tree at TCU was very limited. 

It feels like a gamble. 

I like the pick but "worst case Brandin Cooks" is too optimistic. There are a distribution of outcomes far worse than that. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  Because only good to great players are picked in the top 10.  Got it.  

And you’re making the determination that Reagor isn’t good/great when he hasn’t even played?

If you want the big name who’s ranked #1 at their position you DO need to pick higher, that’s how the draft works. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Pettis had a really good rookie year and then last year they just got really down on him and he never recovered from it.
 

The fact is though rasul Douglas is going to make $2.3 million against the cap in 2020. I don’t see him being on the team at that price. So if you trade him you save 2.1 million and I’m guessing the team taken them on doesn’t Exactly value him at 2.1 million so you’re gonna have to take a guy that you might have to take a risk on. It’s going to be an under performer for an underperformer

Yep, I totally get that.   I'm just not sure Pettis is the guy I would choose first to swap him for.

I mean, if that's all that was available, and this was the only guy they could get for Rasul fine...but I would just have some concerns based on his history and some of the questions about him the 49ers have raised themselves about his personality.

Conversely, even though Douglas doesn't seem to be in the Eagles plans because Schwartz doesn't feel he fits the schemes, I don't think anyone has ever questioned Douglas personality or his desire?    Seems like most of Douglas teammates like him?

I mean I don't know the truth of this, and I am not trying to take a firm position one way or the other, I was just curious what others thought about Pettis specifically. 

I like the 40, but that Kenneth Murray play is an example of how it just doesn't work sometimes.  Murray ran a 4.5, Reagor 4.47.  Murray looks like he's standing still.

Man, I slept so good last night!  Didn't wanna get up.

18 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Howie’s not going to draft two small fast wr/return guys with his first two picks.  

That wasn't what I asked you.  I'm trying to think of how the offense could look with more than just 1 speed guy on the field at a time.  Lemme put it this way...  why do you think Howie went for Reagor over Jefferson when he had both of them right in front of him?