2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Well average isn't entirely subjective.  If you had to take classes in their entirety since 2016, how many teams' drafts would you take over the Eagles's classes. 

A lot

8 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, I don't think it's been terrible. "Pretty bad" is what I used. A lot of high misses.

Like i said high misses on two positions is killing them: bad picks at WR and CB high is really taking its toll on them. It’s Douglas, Jones and JJAW. Outside of those guys top 3 rounds (what i consider high picks) what others have missed? Jury still out on dillard. Way too early. They brought peters back so really next year is basically his first year starting. And Barnett is a starter. Is he jj watt? No but he starts and when he’s on the field their defensive numbers are better. I don’t consider that a miss if he’s starting. Am i happy with his overall production? No however i don’t see it as a miss yet cause he’s not out there Sidney jonesing it up. 

so again the biggest problem in drafting has been at the wide receiver position and evaluating corners high in the draft. That’s been the biggest downfall of the Philadelphia Eagles so much so it’s cost them 3 3rd round picks On top of poor drafting picks at those positions. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Going with the beef brisket for the first time ever tomorrow.  I’ve smoked ribs, turkey, chicken and pork butt.  But never beef brisket.  Hope I don’t F it up.  

You could have gotten that brisket in the 3rd round.  

I would've gone with the best cut available.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not only that he was on the radio I want to say like two hours before saying the Packers haven’t drafted a skill position players on offense in 15 years. I can’t imagine today he’s going to be super thrilled that they drafted his future replacement and he expects to play until 40 and they desperately need a wide receiver because outside of Adam’s they don’t have much 

Here's a far out reach.  Cowboys can't agree to terms with Dak so McCarthy convinces Jerry to trade Dak and a bunch of picks to GB for A-Rod.

Never going to happen considering the Packers just drafted their heir apparent in their minds.

 

42 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I just don’t think he looks all that fast/elusive on tape. Ruggs, Hamler, Bowden, and quez Watkins look faster on tape. 
 

I hope Reagor is good. Really do, and am not that upset over the pick.  But to me he just looks like a slightly enhanced version of josh huff. 

This is a key comment for me. I would hope that EVERY Eagles fan hopes that Reagor is good. Sadly, I have a sick feeling that there are some people who will be low-key rooting for him to disappoint just for the "I told you so" moments.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think atlanta really wanted to cornerback and reached because they have a massive hole. 

I stopped reading there.  My juvenile mind was filled with Beavis and Butthead giggles and remarks.  
 

You said massive.  You said hole 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id say hes faster than that even. 

He was a guy I didnt care about at first so I hardly paid attention to him. When I finally watched him I said, Im totally ok with him at 21 because thats DeSean Jackson speed. Hes not just fast.  Hes got that game changing kind of speed. Then I got worried about his run blocking and attitude. And I still am. But its clear he is what we needed. Im totally ok with this pick, and as the board fell I thought he should have been the pick over Jefferson, and even woulda taken him over Lamb based on the fit. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

 

This only increases my case for shenault. He can give you a lot of the same things as reagor. He doesn’t have the speed reagor does but a lot of the things described there is what shenault excels at. 

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's not terrible unless you think a team should hit on every pick.  

I don't think the difference is that dramatic.  My thought was the team needed the best WR available but they also need speed to open up space on the field.  Reagor gives them that speed more than Jefferson would have.  I would have been fine if they had drafted Jefferson but I think adding Jefferson alone still leaves them needing to add speed at the receiver position. 

I think it goes the other way too, sadly. Adding speed at the wide receiver position leaves them needing a technician. Greg Ward doesn't cut it for me in the slot. I'd like the Eagles to make that upgrade too. I understand it more because there are more of those guys though a bit later. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I think that's selling him short.  He's much more than a gadget guy if he can line up on the outside and beat 6 foot CB's consistently.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Here's a far out reach.  Cowboys can'y agree to terms with Dak so McCarthy convinces Jerry to trade Dak and a bunch of picks to GB for A-Rod.

Never going to happen considering the Packers just drafted their heir apparent in their minds.

If the Packers didn’t draft love but then again Aaron Rodgers was absolutely destroying Mike McCarthy in the locker room from what I was told by my best friend who was a Packers fan. Says Rodgers was done with him and wanted him gone the last two years. 

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Ugh, I hope tonight isn't on par with last nights covid overkill.  Am I wrong for saying it's overdone?  Let's get a drinking game set up.

We are in unprecedented times- 1 shot

We are in this together- 2 shots

In this new normal- chug

Stay home, be safe- slit your wrist

As we face an uncertain future- jello shot

 

You're gonna need a lot of booze, jello, and flatware.  

2 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

I think that's selling him short.  He's much more than a gadget guy if he can line up on the outside and beat 6 foot CB's consistently.

I think that’s why he said not only can he beat them vertically but pointing out he can also do some of those gadget plays. 

 

1 minute ago, Green Dog said:

I think that's selling him short.  He's much more than a gadget guy if he can line up on the outside and beat 6 foot CB's consistently.

He's a much better route runner than people give him credit for. Also, for a guy who is only 5'11 and will go up and get the ball. The 42 inch vertical at the combine matches what you see from him on the field. Quite honestly he can do it all. The things that held him back from being more highly valued was poor production last season and his 40 at the combine. I think there's clear reasons for both of these things, but a lot of people are hyper focussed on a 4.47 and 600 yards without having any clue as to what the context is.

Since the Eagles drafted a speed guy already, they have the option of going with either another speed guy or a volume catcher in the next few rounds.  They don't have to reach for a speed guy who may not be that great now. We needed to get at least one speed receiver in this draft.  That has been accomplished.  Unless you are of the opinion that he is not fast.  In which case, stop comparing him to Usain Bolt.

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I don’t doubt the Eagles try to trade up to 16. However as soon as Atlanta knew they needed to leapfrog Dallas to get lamb they held that leverage against him. And at the same time you had to convince Atlanta to move to 21 and potentially have the raiders snipe the guy they took in Terrell. Raiders were going CB at 19. And mayock loves him some Clemson players. 

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Reagor to the Saints was something we discussed prior to the draft, specifically about Jefferson already being gone and then having the Saints leap over the Eagles and grab Reagor, exactly like they did with Cooks.

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

This is a key comment for me. I would hope that EVERY Eagles fan hopes that Reagor is good. Sadly, I have a sick feeling that there are some people who will be low-key rooting for him to disappoint just for the "I told you so" moments.

Yep. I’m currently brainstorming ex pro bowl caliber players to compare to Reagor. Everyone is automatically going to say Tyreek Hill or Desean Jackson. I think he’s more of a Steve Smith/Hines Ward mold. If he becomes a good NFL player I think the majority of his highlights will be making tough catches in traffic and breaking tackles after the catch. He’s by no means slow, but don’t see him as a true burner in the NFL. 
 

And for the record I like this pick better than I did the Barnett selection. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think that’s why he said not only can he beat them vertically but pointing out he can also do some of those gadget plays. 

Yup. He’s a versatile piece. Just find a way to get him the ball, no matter where he’s at on the field. That’s pretty ideal. 

2 hours ago, Rhinoddd50 said:

Yep, I totally get that.   I'm just not sure Pettis is the guy I would choose first to swap him for.

I mean, if that's all that was available, and this was the only guy they could get for Rasul fine...but I would just have some concerns based on his history and some of the questions about him the 49ers have raised themselves about his personality.

Conversely, even though Douglas doesn't seem to be in the Eagles plans because Schwartz doesn't feel he fits the schemes, I don't think anyone has ever questioned Douglas personality or his desire?    Seems like most of Douglas teammates like him?

I mean I don't know the truth of this, and I am not trying to take a firm position one way or the other, I was just curious what others thought about Pettis specifically. 

I didn't really like Pettis coming out but I have a bias against prospects whose number one calling card is "route running technician." I prefer prospects with explosive traits. Someone like Jeudy I feel like showed both. He was my number 1 receiver in this class. I liked Reagor/Aiyuk over Jefferson. I feel like when a prospect has the burst to threaten a DB right off the line, that gives an awesome foundation to build on. Have high hopes for Reagor based on his physical traits. Have no insight into whether his work ethic or competitive demeanor make it more or less likely that he reaches his potential. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Yup. He’s a versatile piece. Just find a way to get him the ball, no matter where he’s at on the field. That’s pretty ideal. 

It’s kind of the same reason why i love shenault at 53. He offers the same type of versatility. I think you can use reagor and shenault together like the niners did with deebo.