9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s Sal Pal so take it for what it’s worth 

 

Don't doubt it one bit.  They probably should have been on the phone with Tampa Bay.  Maybe they could have convinced them to take 21 and Dillard (just based off the rumors yesterday).

Waiting until Atlanta was on the clock took away any leverage the Eagles had to make a fair trade.  Atlanta knew the Eagles wanted Lamb, they knew they didn't want Dallas to get him so they probably were asking for 53 and then some.  

2 minutes ago, blindside said:

That’s ridiculous. 😂😂 Lamb isn’t worth that. He’s not Julio Jones. Reagor + a decent player is better than Lamb, as long as they don’t screw up the next pick. Some of you guys are worse than me as far as being emotional. Sheesh

I’m not saying he is.  I’m saying Sal is probably full of it

Just now, BirdGang45 said:

100% agree.

They would need to move up for him. He is going early tonight. 

Just now, bpac55 said:

Don't doubt it one bit.  They probably should have been on the phone with Tampa Bay.  Maybe they could have convinced them to take 21 and Dillard (just based off the rumors yesterday).

Waiting until Atlanta was on the clock took away any leverage the Eagles had to make a fair trade.  Atlanta knew the Eagles wanted Lamb, they knew they didn't want Dallas to get him so they probably were asking for 53 and then some.  

Once wirfs fell to 13 there was no way the bucs were moving down from 14. It was a move up to get him or hope wirfs fell to them after he niners passed him. If SF took him i could see the Bucs open to a trade 

27 minutes ago, Mrkingofspades said:

I think it goes the other way too, sadly. Adding speed at the wide receiver position leaves them needing a technician. Greg Ward doesn't cut it for me in the slot. I'd like the Eagles to make that upgrade too. I understand it more because there are more of those guys though a bit later. 

It's still a position of need.  I wouldn't mind the addition of another WR in Round 2. 

35 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Another former player that reminds me of Reagor is Hines Ward. 

Reagor is much faster but that's still high praise. I get the comparison.

1 minute ago, Lindermann said:

I’m just guessing.  If they wanted a 3rd it’s probably a done deal.  If Howie only offered a 4th, then he wasn’t serious about moving up

I'm guessing they wanted 53, 103, and one of our 4ths.

 

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

So, you discovered a capital D.

When I registered for the new site, I could not remember whether the "d" in the old name was upper or lower case. This on-line instruction is getting to me!

7 minutes ago, Lindermann said:

If they worked their butts off, he probably would be an Eagle.  If they didn’t want to give up a 2nd to move up to 16, then they didn’t work their butts off.  

You are assuming a lot, just like so many other people. For all we know they did offer up 53 to move to 16 and Atlanta tried to hold them over a barrel for a massive overpayment. The fact is we will likely never know exactly where they tried to move up, if they tried to move up, what they offered, etc. People do way too many mock drafts online and think it's as simple as offering something that meets the value chart and the trade gets accepted. 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

So John Lynch got a 4th round pick (117 overall) just to let TB skip over them and grab an OT.  He got numerous picks out of CHI just to move from #3 to #2 to take a QB.

Does anyone else think Lynch calls these teams immediately after his pick and tell them other teams are trying to leap frog them -- just to scam additional picks?

I think teams probably have pretty good feelings on which teams would jump up to get a certain player. I have a feeling a team like Jacksonville or Miami  tried to move up to get wirfs. But San Francisco didn’t wanna fall back to 18 or 20 cause kinlaw was on the board still unless they were overpaid. Probably used that as leverage against the Bucs saying miami and jags calling about wirfs and lynch got a 4th and kinlaw like he wanted. 

Just now, T-1000 said:

You are assuming a lot, just like so many other people. For all we know they did offer up 53 to move to 16 and Atlanta tried to hold them over a barrel for a massive overpayment. The fact is we will likely never know exactly where they tried to move up, if they tried to move up, what they offered, etc. People do way too many mock drafts online and think it's as simple as offering something that meets the value chart and the trade gets accepted. 

Thank you. I’ve said this multiple times. It is a guideline it does not mean it’s the gospel. There’s other factors variables that the chart does not include that can make the price of that pick actually be higher

Good stuff against Arnette and Okudah.

 

 

37 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Not a crazy take.  E45 said the same thing.  And I'm not a super speed fan, but I would have too.  Never bought into the Lamb hype.

Can't wait for week 1 when we're in a struggle on the road at Pittsburgh and then on TV they cut to James Brown showing Lamb scoring his first career TD against the Giants.

17 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Re: Ertz

A casual observer might conclude that Eagles fans have a curious pathology that compels  them to want to trade away their best players.

I don't think it's "want" versus seeing the writing on the wall and viewing it as a possibility. 

38 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This only increases my case for shenault. He can give you a lot of the same things as reagor. He doesn’t have the speed reagor does but a lot of the things described there is what shenault excels at. 

Shenault's issues are not what he does on the field, but the odds that he may not be able to be on the field.   Take away Shenault's injury red flag and he might have been the top WR taken.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Shenault's issues are not what he does on the field, but the odds that he may not be able to be on the field.   Take away Shenault's injury red flag and he might have been the top WR taken.

Oh I understand and agree. I felt that way for a while that if you gave me an option of who I think has the highest floor out of this entire class I might take Shenault. I think he has that much talent. And his size and physical nature I could see him being a superstar in this league if he stays healthy

my point was more if that’s what they’re looking for in reagor I’m totally for taking shenault at 53 because at that point the risk is worth the potential reward 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Shenault's issues are not what he does on the field, but the odds that he may not be able to be on the field.   Take away Shenault's injury red flag and he might have been the top WR taken.

He was in the first round of every preseason mock I went back to look at.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He was in the first round of every preseason mock I went back to look at.

He was the top 2-3 WR in the class preseason. If he was eligible to leave last year he would’ve been the first wide receiver taken and inside the top 15. Caplan has said it and i believe so has kist/solak. When you watch his 2018 tape, he’s arguably one of the top 3 wrs in college football. He was really really good in 2018. His 2019 he played through a toe and muscle core injury. Add on new coach and new OC 

Kempski thinks slot receiver is the priority now if they take another one. I'd argue still outside WR. DeSean won't be here long, will need someone to replace him in 2021. Can still play Ward in the slot short-term if we need to, but I'd hope they don't pass on an outside guy for a slot guy.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He was in the first round of every preseason mock I went back to look at.

I dont think anyone would argue that he doesnt have first round talent but mock makers arent doing medicals and investing big bucks in players, theyre just sitting around thumbs up butt making lists, come to think of it i bet Santa Clause makes a hell of a mock,😳 having said that injury risk are real risks for those actually taking the risk when drafting him. Those risks arent always represented in a mock.

I think Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman are THE perfect compliment to Jalen Reagor. There is so much talent left on the defensive side of the ball and they should probably go in that direction. HOWEVER, if Higgins and/or Pittman are there are at 53 these two picks could set up Carson and the Eagles passing game to be successful for several years.

40 minutes ago, Mrkingofspades said:

I think it goes the other way too, sadly. Adding speed at the wide receiver position leaves them needing a technician. Greg Ward doesn't cut it for me in the slot. I'd like the Eagles to make that upgrade too. I understand it more because there are more of those guys though a bit later. 

I hear ya... there's some technicians still going to be available though.  But, speed can cover up for technicians.

 

Technicians - 
Round 2 - Tee Higgins
Round 3 - Van Jefferson, KJ Hill

Day 3 - James Proche, Tyler Johnson, Quintez Cephus, 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We have Goedert.  Who we drafted high.  We have a lot of holes. Ertz is aging and will be very expensive once his deal is up.  We are not positioned to "go for it” or are a complete team.  Howie signaled that in free agency.  Holding onto older players for what they’ve done in the past is what has gotten us in this mess.  I’m not suggesting Ertz is washed up.  All I’m saying is trading him would help us set up for the future.  Not 2020.  Cause we aren’t going deep in 2020.  The future.  

OK, it's settled then. We might as well trade Lane, Cox, and Brooks while we are at it.

1 minute ago, FTheCowboys said:

Kempski thinks slot receiver is the priority now if they take another one. I'd argue still outside WR. DeSean won't be here long, will need someone to replace him in 2021. Can still play Ward in the slot short-term if we need to, but I'd hope they don't pass on an outside guy for a slot guy.

Honestly it depends on how they feel about jjaw. I think it’s gonna be pretty telling if they go for a slot receiver or they go for another outside wide receiver that can also play some slot. That said I wouldn’t take a slot receiver in round two. I think you can get good ones in this particular draft in around four and round five