I'd have a hard time saying no to DeAndre Swift if he's there at 53.  With that being said, Swift, Taylor, Akers could go off the board fast since the Chiefs took Helaire in the 1st.  Teams have a chance to shift their boards based off round one now.  I think we have a good idea of how Round 2 goes pretty quick.

Just now, AzBirdGang said:

Just heard Jalen's coach interview from this morning.....

It made me even more concerned about the pick. The coach straight up said that he needs be alot better at certain things. Blocking was one of them. The interview was kind of meh. 

He made Jalen seem like a little bit of a project. 

WR blocking is about the last thing I care about in a receiver. Just show effort. I thought he did when I watched him vs Ohio State. 

Just now, bpac55 said:

I'd have a hard time saying no to DeAndre Swift if he's there at 53.  With that being said, Swift, Taylor, Akers could go off the board fast since the Chiefs took Helaire in the 1st.  Teams have a chance to shift their boards based off round one now.  I think we have a good idea of how Round 2 goes pretty quick.

An RB in round 2 would be infuriating. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Johnson's comments about 'pressure' are concerning.  But, yes.  

Couple that with skipping the Shrine Bowl, then not working out at the combine (he had so much time to prep for it). 

He handled this offseason poorly. 

9 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

I figured Reagor would be our pick so not upset about it at all.

Still absolutely shocked Lamb fell so far, but alas...

Did a draft watch party with some friends using the "Hangout" app. It was a really good time. Definitely recommended during this quarantine times.

Now give me one of Mims, Edwards, Gay, Davis, or Winfield.

I will be happy with any of those guys.

Forgot Higgins and Chinn I'd be good with as well.

 

Spielman is a damn liar. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

I don't see that even a little bit.

 

Hines Ward was a tenacious player without the ball in his hands, very willing blocker.  Reagor, by all accounts, is very much not interested in that part of the game.  Ward's game was about toughness, never speed.  

I don’t see Reagor as a speed guy in the same breath as Jackson or Tyreek. Reagor seems to make tough catches in traffic and seems fairly good at breaking tackles. Ward wasn’t a speed guy but he could get behind the defense and stretch the field when necessary. He had above average speed for a WR. I think Reagor has good speed but not great like Jackson or Hill. 
 

They aren’t perfect comparisons but when I watch Reagor’s highlights I’m reminded more so of Steve Smith or Hines Ward. Not Hill or DJax. 
 

And I’m not talking about blocking. 

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s cute.  You think this is a good/great team?  And spare me the "season isn’t tomorrow” stuff.  There’s no moves to be made that will make that big of an impact for next year.  
 

And there will be a time when it’s time to move on from those guys.  But for now, paying top dollar for a lineman on either side of the ball makes more sense than paying top dollar for a TE when you have a high draft pick TE playing behind him.  

The Eagles run a lot of two-TE sets. To do that you need two good TEs.

3 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I see a strong physical resemblance. Rocked up, not particularly tall. I get your point but it's not a bad thing to have that speed. We'll see if he becomes a willing blocker but from what I've seen of him he's plenty tough.

With the ball, I agree.  Without the ball... not sure about the toughness (or more exactly willingness).

 

 

I like Reagor, I like Reagor a lot.  So, my take on him not reminding me of Hines Ward isn't a negative on Reagor.  I just don't see their games as remotely similar.  Ward was all about his physicality. Reagor's game is almost exclusively about his athleticism - elusive running, pure speed, quick COD and ability to elevate for jump balls.  Ward was more about boxing out DBs... and working the middle of the field.    Just not a similar style at all.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t see Reagor as a speed guy in the same breath as Jackson or Tyreek. Reagor seems to make tough catches in traffic and seems fairly good at breaking tackles. Ward wasn’t a speed guy but he could get behind the defense and stretch the field when necessary. He had above average speed for a WR. I think Reagor has good speed but not great like Jackson or Hill. 
 

They aren’t perfect comparisons but when I watch Reagor’s highlights I’m reminded more so of Steve Smith or Hines Ward. Not Hill or DJax. 
 

And I’m not talking about blocking. 

So Jackson and Tyreek just have this natural gliding speed.  Reagor is right up there with their speed but his speed is powerful.  I don't know if that makes sense.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Couple that with skipping the Shrine Bowl, then not working out at the combine (he had so much time to prep for it). 

He handled this offseason poorly. 

Which is why I put him as a Day 3 pick.  I think post-season, he was a clear Round 3 prospect.  That series of decisions likely pushed him into the 5th round.

 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

So Jackson and Tyreek just have this natural gliding speed.  Reagor is right up there with their speed but his speed is powerful.  I don't know if that makes sense.

There's speed and then there's functional speed.

9 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Lamb went before the Eagles pick. I get it, I wanted to move up for Lamb but assuming they blew it without knowing exactly what happened is assuming an awful lot. This thought process that trading up to get him was some sort of automatic thing is both laughable and extremely flawed. Denver wasn't trading down from 15. If you are Atlanta and you love AJ Terrell and you see Dallas and Vegas with corner needs right after you, why would you trade down to 21.

This entire premise of comparing Reagor to Lamb is a made up phantom by stupid fans who have no clue what they are talking about. He should be compared to Jefferson and Aiyuk and if they end up better than him, by all means trash the Eagles down the road. Until then STFU and see how it plays out and stop with the Lamb stuff.

No one knows, no one will ever truly know. We can debate whose fault it was and the level of culpability all Spring if we want. But to me it comes down to one thing and here's the bottom line:

The Eagles leading WR last season had under 500 yards. We had arguably the worst year production-wise for WRs in the last decade of any team. We and everyone in the world knew we had a bigger need at WR than probably every team in the NFL. We needed to not just upgrade the position, but upgrade it in a significant way. And being that all the free agents are gone, all the top level guys on the trade block have been dealt, that 1st round pick will likely be our best asset in addressing the position this year. And the best Howie Roseman could get the whole offseason for his franchise QB who desperately needed a top level guy was Jalen Reagor. I like Reagor, but I'm sorry, that's not good enough. It's kind of a disgrace actually. With all the options out there available if this is the best he can do he flat out failed his QB.

I'll tell ya, we are very fortunate Carson Wentz is a total class act and a team guy, because if he was a diva type, I couldn't wait to get out of here fast enough. 3 of the 4 years they've given him subpar receivers. He got hurt in a season where he was playing like an MVP, and then because of one playoff run, as amazing as it was, half the city becomes Foles stans. He has a teammate or teammates talking trash about him behind his back to reporters like Josina Anderson and Joe Santoliquito. He gets hurt every single year because we had medical staffs from hell.

We should be very fortunate that Wentz even wants to still be a Philadelphia Eagle with all the crap he's had to go through since he's been drafted. We truly don't deserve him.

 

11 minutes ago, IggleWalt said:

Reach is the new I didn't like the pick.

I think it comes up every year.  I mean I remember people complaining that Graham was a reach when they traded up for him.  

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

So Jackson and Tyreek just have this natural gliding speed.  Reagor is right up there with their speed but his speed is powerful.  I don't know if that makes sense.

One looks effortless, the other doesn’t? I think that makes sense. 

Man that second Mosher clip is nice but painful. Over 10 yards of separation with a clean pocket should be an easy TD. I know not every throw is going to be perfect but I can't even track how many easy TD's he could have had to pad his stats.

12 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

No one knows, no one will ever truly know. We can debate whose fault it was and the level of culpability all Spring if we want. But to me it comes down to one thing and here's the bottom line:

The Eagles leading WR last season had under 500 yards. We had arguably the worst year production-wise for WRs in the last decade of any team. We and everyone in the world knew we had a bigger need at WR than probably every team in the NFL. We needed to not just upgrade the position, but upgrade it in a significant way. And being that all the free agents are gone, all the top level guys on the trade block have been dealt, that 1st round pick will likely be our best asset in addressing the position this year. And the best Howie Roseman could get the whole offseason for his franchise QB who desperately needed a top level guy was Jalen Reagor. I like Reagor, but I'm sorry, that's not good enough. It's kind of a disgrace actually. With all the options out there available if this is the best he can do he flat out failed his QB.

I'll tell ya, we are very fortunate Carson Wentz is a total class act and a team guy, because if he was a diva type, I couldn't wait to get out of here fast enough. 3 of the 4 years they've given him subpar receivers. He got hurt in a season where he was playing like an MVP, and then because of one playoff run, as amazing as it was, half the city becomes Foles stans. He has a teammate or teammates talking trash about him behind his back to reporters like Josina Anderson and Joe Santoliquito. He gets hurt every single year because we had medical staffs from hell.

We should be very fortunate that Wentz even wants to still be a Philadelphia Eagle with all the crap he's had to go through since he's been drafted. We truly don't deserve him.

In fairness it’s not like the Eagles haven’t tried to give him wide receivers. They signed Jeffrey. They traded for DeSean. They traded for Golden Tate. They drafted JJaw. They drafted hollins and Gibson. They traded for Torrey Smith. The fact is they’ve tried but The results are not what we’ve expected outside of the 2017 season. I can’t fault the Eagles for trying but I can fault them for their evaluation in drafts and relying on guys that are typically reliable to stay healthy

The correct choice. 

2 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

No one knows, no one will ever truly know. We can debate whose fault it was and the level of culpability all Spring if we want. But to me it comes down to one thing and here's the bottom line:

The Eagles leading WR last season had under 500 yards. We had arguably the worst year production-wise for WRs in the last decade of any team. We and everyone in the world knew we had a bigger need at WR than probably every team in the NFL. We needed to not just upgrade the position, but upgrade it in a significant way. And being that all the free agents are gone, all the top level guys on the trade block have been dealt, that 1st round pick will likely be our best asset in addressing the position this year. And the best Howie Roseman could get the whole offseason for his franchise QB who desperately needed a top level guy was Jalen Reagor. I like Reagor, but I'm sorry, that's not good enough. It's kind of a disgrace actually. With all the options out there available if this is the best he can do he flat out failed his QB.

I'll tell ya, we are very fortunate Carson Wentz is a total class act and a team guy, because if he was a diva type, I couldn't wait to get out of here fast enough. 3 of the 4 years they've given him subpar receivers. He got hurt in a season where he was playing like an MVP, and then because of one playoff run, as amazing as it was, half the city becomes Foles stans. He has a teammate or teammates talking trash about him behind his back to reporters like Josina Anderson and Joe Santoliquito. He gets hurt every single year because we had medical staffs from hell.

We should be very fortunate that Wentz even wants to still be a Philadelphia Eagle with all the crap he's had to go through since he's been drafted. We truly don't deserve him.

So if they get Reagor and Mims/Higgins/People-Jones/Hamler/Van Jefferson that is worse than Cee Dee Lamb and no pick until 126 in the draft? 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'd have a hard time saying no to DeAndre Swift if he's there at 53.  With that being said, Swift, Taylor, Akers could go off the board fast since the Chiefs took Helaire in the 1st.  Teams have a chance to shift their boards based off round one now.  I think we have a good idea of how Round 2 goes pretty quick.

You could easily argue that either Swift or Taylor would be BPA at 53.  There is the positional value and all of that, but both are I think very good prospects and I am surprised neither went in the first round.  If the top remaining WRs are gone, I would not mind it.  I agree with you though that they could come of the board pretty quickly tonight.

I'm not sure any of the safeties are so great that they are must take, other than maybe McKinney and he will be gone in the first few picks tonight.  Perhaps Winfield Jr.  Not sure any of the edge rushers are worth it.  I think the draft is deep at LB and you don't have to take one here.  Maybe a CB if you have someone you think is a sure starter.  My preference remains get another top prospect at WR.  Otherwise?  I wouldn't mind seeing them add someone of that talent level to the backfield...

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

With the ball, I agree.  Without the ball... not sure about the toughness (or more exactly willingness).

 

 

I like Reagor, I like Reagor a lot.  So, my take on him not reminding me of Hines Ward isn't a negative on Reagor.  I just don't see their games as remotely similar.  Ward was all about his physicality. Reagor's game is almost exclusively about his athleticism - elusive running, pure speed, quick COD and ability to elevate for jump balls.  Ward was more about boxing out DBs... and working the middle of the field.    Just not a similar style at all.

What I see and hope for is a faster, more athletic version of Anquon Boldin. That may not be a fair comparison, but he seems to have the competitive and physical presence on his routes. I like how he uses his hands. If the Eagles can stretch that field he is going to get a lot of 1-1 looks.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Man that second Mosher clip is nice but painful. Over 10 yards of separation with a clean pocket should be an easy TD. I know not every throw is going to be perfect but I can't even track how many easy TD's he could have had to pad his stats.

It didn’t even have to be perfect. It could have been an arm punt and still a TD. Unfortunately it was a coffin corner arm punt. 

2 minutes ago, Double said:

 

I think he's going to go plead with him not to leave him out to dry...

 

  This second throw... 🤦‍♂️   This right here should have been a walk-in TD.   He's got nearly 10 yards on the defender on the outside, and the safety has no chance... but the QB can't hit the side of the barn.   Reagor actually had to come out of the game briefly after landing on the base of his spine.   Just BRUTAL QB play here.  That's an extra 30 yards and a TD to add to his stat total right here.