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Combine that with his max mph, which would have topped all NFL ball carriers in 2019 and you can paint the picture that his added weight really effed him at the combine. 

He’s no worse than the third fastest WR in the draft. 

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McManus intimated in his column that the Eagles trading for Slay made them unable to trade up for Lamb.

Opting to not go all-in for Byron Jones and instead trading valuable draft capital for Slay, who is 29 years old, is having a ripple effect.

Just wish we could reverse time and restart this whole offseason over, I really dislike almost every single thing they've done.

Shenault is very tempting tonight.

feels like it will be logan wilson a round too early though

safety would probably be best value if we stay put 

15 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

scale of 1-10 

10= still fully believe JJAW will become a productive WR for this team

1= completely given up on JJAW 

where do you net out?  

2 - I can't give up on a guy who's only in his 2nd year but I hated the pick at the time, didn't think he could play then and don't think he can play now. I hope he proves me wrong.

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Welp.  My official prediction yesterday was Reagor but with a trade down.  
 

So tonight I’m going with.   

 

2nd Jeremy Chin

3rd Darrell Taylor 

I'd be happy with those 2.  

3 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McManus intimated in his column that the Eagles trading for Slay made them unable to trade up for Lamb.

Opting to not go all-in for Byron Jones and instead trading valuable draft capital for Slay, who is 29 years old, is having a ripple effect.

Just wish we could reverse time and restart this whole offseason over, I really dislike almost every single thing they've done.

We are Eagles fans we always hate almost everything they have done

19 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

scale of 1-10 

10= still fully believe JJAW will become a productive WR for this team

1= completely given up on JJAW 

where do you net out?  

4

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Shenault is very tempting tonight.

feels like it will be logan wilson a round too early though

safety would probably be best value if we stay put 

I don't think Wilson will last until the third round - certainly not where the Eagles are picking. If they like him, they will have to take him in the second. 

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

We are Eagles fans we always hate almost everything they have done

And one year in our history in 2017 we were wrong. 😉

1 minute ago, FTheCowboys said:

And one year in our history in 2017 we were wrong. 😉

1948, 1949, and 1960 say hello....

LOL

10 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McManus intimated in his column that the Eagles trading for Slay made them unable to trade up for Lamb.

Opting to not go all-in for Byron Jones and instead trading valuable draft capital for Slay, who is 29 years old, is having a ripple effect.

Just wish we could reverse time and restart this whole offseason over, I really dislike almost every single thing they've done.

The story is the Jones didn't want any part of the Eagles.

26 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

The Eagles leading WR last season had under 500 yards. We had arguably the worst year production-wise for WRs in the last decade of any team. We and everyone in the world knew we had a bigger need at WR than probably every team in the NFL. We needed to not just upgrade the position, but upgrade it in a significant way. And being that all the free agents are gone, all the top level guys on the trade block have been dealt, that 1st round pick will likely be our best asset in addressing the position this year. And the best Howie Roseman could get the whole offseason for his franchise QB who desperately needed a top level guy was Jalen Reagor. I like Reagor, but I'm sorry, that's not good enough. It's kind of a disgrace actually. With all the options out there available if this is the best he can do he flat out failed his QB.

 

So Reagor hasn't played a single snap in the NFL and you have already drawn this conclusion. Forgive me if I don't take your view and others like it very seriously.

The other thing I want to point out is that while WR was a huge need, they have other legitimate needs. LB, CB, S, DE, etc. As bad as the Eagles can be at drafting, they have been really good in the second round over the years. Taylor, Dawkins, Lewis, Brown, Desean, Shady, Ertz, Sanders, etc. Even IF, IF the Eagles could have moved up to 16 for Lamb by giving up the 53rd overall pick, I think I will wait and see who they get to fill one of their other major needs before jumping off the bridge. I might even watch Reagor and the guy they get at 53 play a few snaps before I decide they are disgraceful picks and Howie failed, as you said :rolleyes:

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Combine that with his max mph, which would have topped all NFL ball carriers in 2019 and you can paint the picture that his added weight really effed him at the combine. 

He’s no worse than the third fastest WR in the draft. 

It's my opinion that he's every bit as fast as Ruggs.

11 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McManus intimated in his column that the Eagles trading for Slay made them unable to trade up for Lamb.

Opting to not go all-in for Byron Jones and instead trading valuable draft capital for Slay, who is 29 years old, is having a ripple effect.

Just wish we could reverse time and restart this whole offseason over, I really dislike almost every single thing they've done.

I don't think Jones wanted to come to the Eagles.  He said as much.  If they couldn't land Jones, getting Slay was the next best thing.  

27 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

scale of 1-10 

10= still fully believe JJAW will become a productive WR for this team

1= completely given up on JJAW 

where do you net out?  

5- go out and prove it.

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Pi

You stole me answer...

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It's my opinion that he's every bit as fast as Ruggs.

I think if they had a 10 yard to 20 yard split, that is where Ruggs would accelerate faster.  I think Ruggs has slightly better acceleration but Reagor has more than enough speed.  Reagor probably has better agility though.

12 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McManus intimated in his column that the Eagles trading for Slay made them unable to trade up for Lamb.

Opting to not go all-in for Byron Jones and instead trading valuable draft capital for Slay, who is 29 years old, is having a ripple effect.

Just wish we could reverse time and restart this whole offseason over, I really dislike almost every single thing they've done.

A few problems to your argument

-Slay is 29, Jones will turn 28 in September

-Slay is better

-Slay has 19 career INT's, Jones has 2

-Slay got less guaranteed money

-Slay wanted to come here, Jones chose not to

 

@purplefiggy

Level of confidence with JJAW is a 3, given 1 is all hope is lost. Hard for me to believe he'll be worth his draft stock. He may be of some use in certain packages. 

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

So Reagor hasn't played a single snap in the NFL and you have already drawn this conclusion. Forgive me if I don't take your view and others like it very seriously.

The other thing I want to point out is that while WR was a huge need, they have other legitimate needs. LB, CB, S, DE, etc. As bad as the Eagles can be at drafting, they have been really good in the second round over the years. Taylor, Dawkins, Lewis, Brown, Desean, Shady, Ertz, Sanders, etc. Even IF, IF the Eagles could have moved up to 16 for Lamb by giving up the 53rd overall pick, I think I will wait and see who they get to fill one of their other major needs before jumping off the bridge. I might even watch Reagor and the guy they get at 53 play a few snaps before I decide they are disgraceful picks and Howie failed, as you said :rolleyes:

You notice how this logic only applies to cynical PoV?

You never see that logic being applied to people who say they love the draft pick and think he will be a star and be the best WR in the draft class. No one says "Oh, so you've already come to this conclusion this soon, how about waiting and seeing what happens first?" It only applies to cynicism. It's a valid point, just wish people were consistent with it.

But I don't know what to tell you man, that's my opinion. Everyone has opinions on players. If we all waited 3 years to see who became what, draft debate wouldn't exist in the first place.

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

With the ball, I agree.  Without the ball... not sure about the toughness (or more exactly willingness).

 

 

I like Reagor, I like Reagor a lot.  So, my take on him not reminding me of Hines Ward isn't a negative on Reagor.  I just don't see their games as remotely similar.  Ward was all about his physicality. Reagor's game is almost exclusively about his athleticism - elusive running, pure speed, quick COD and ability to elevate for jump balls.  Ward was more about boxing out DBs... and working the middle of the field.    Just not a similar style at all.

I thought the person that made that comp was joking. I give him points for actually thinking of the most perfect opposite you could possibly think of. There is literally nothing similar. They are opposites in every way. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think Jones wanted to come to the Eagles.  He said as much.  If they couldn't land Jones, getting Slay was the next best thing.  

Sorry...that assumption makes it harder to hate.

17 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I am copying and pasting your reply to me from less than 2 hours ago....

 

I just don’t think he looks all that fast/elusive on tape. Ruggs, Hamler, Bowden, and quez Watkins look faster on tape. 

Not sure what you were watching.   Some of his cuts only Hamler is capable of.    I'm a fan of Bowden, but he's not got the same elusiveness.   And in a number of those highlights, you'll see Reagor put it into neutral at a certain point, because he's that far away from the defense.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not sure what you were watching.   Some of his cuts only Hamler is capable of.    I'm a fan of Bowden, but he's not got the same elusiveness.   And in a number of those highlights, you'll see Reagor put it into neutral at a certain point, because he's that far away from the defense.

You are super confused.  Read the post again and then my reply to it.

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