Spuds is on WIP right now.....basically saying Howie is looking 3 years down the road in developing a good NFL QB....also said the pick was extremely unexpected for everyone, including himself....

 

...also said the Eagles don't look at him as a Hill....weight differences, etc...doesn't make sense in that regard....says the Eagles really think he will be a NFL QB.....

 

....says if the Eagles had picked Hurts in the 4th round, everyone would have been happy with the pick......it's because they picked him with 53 that people are questioning it.....

 

....He says he knows the way people are feeling and he has respect for the way they feel since it was an unexpected pick but if Hurts develops into a really good NFL QB, etc....and to wait and see....

 

...Also said that all the "trade up for Lamb" talk was a bunch of "crap" lol...(yes, he said "crap").....and said, "Did the Eagles ever say they had a high interest in Lamb?"  Basically said they didn't value Lamb high enough to trade up for him and REALLY, REALLY liked Reagor....

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have no problem with hurts like i edited. I actually like hurts. That doesn’t mean i live i a dream world where i just ignore the obvious where we have pissed away draft picks on poor trades due to bad drafting with high picks and didn’t have the luxury to take a backup QB at 53. I can support hurts and still see that as a bad move by the eagles at 53. Unfortunately you are just ignoring the possibility of being upset at the fo and not the player.  Apparently we all have to just brown nose the eagles even if it was a bad decision. 

ding ding ding. Imagine is Dillard is a bust and needs to get moved. 

Thorsen pick was insanely bad. Jjaw worst performing receiver in the draft last year. 

Over and over and over. Josh sweat in that dline draft. 

Can hurts even be an elite qb? I'm not buying the gadget thing. People are saying he is a starting QB. 

Alright guys, we’re only about 12 picks away from taking our new back up punter. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

Spend money on one not a top 75 pick. 

How much money?  This pick is at least partially to fill an important roster spot cost effectively, unfortunately 

51 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

that's neither here nor there for howie.  he wants draft capital for future investments.  howie sees EVERYTHING as draft captial.  and the greatest draft capital?  quarterbacks.  they also draw the biggest contracts.

wentz is too good NOT to win enough games to get a monster second contract.  howie does NOT want that as it will capsize (heh, cap) the team.  hurts is the answer.  he'll be the gadget guy / guy backing up wentz for the next two years...  and then howie will pull the trigger on a wentz trade, getting as much draft capital as he can..  while also being able to lowball hurts on a contract after his rookie one.

if the eagles suck with hurts, all the more capital to get their "next" qb star.  they'll have the picks from wentz and a potential bad season to move up to #1 and draft whoever.  

Sounds rather conspiratorial. I’d bite on Wentz getting tired of visiting the tent and locker room, being set for life, with other priorities. The concussion maybe gave him some thoughts

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

#2 QB isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity 

Omg really? You want to go with argument when currently they have sudfeld making 2+ million dollars as the no. 2 QB and could have just as easily signed Flacco to be a no. 2 qb who’s far more accomplished and likely even you think he’s cooked is going to be more prepared to step in than hurts year one 

again you act like they couldn’t have gotten a no. 2 QB backup next year or later in the draft. FYI most 2-5 round rookie QBs with no camps aren’t going to be very effective year one. Again sugar coat it. When we look back and guys in that area are playing wel next year and future please don’t complain about it cause I’ll bring up your dying love for taking a backup QBs at 53 with sudfeld here. And Flacco available. 

82 players picked between 21 and 103.  What a disaster this has turned out to be.  I had faith in Howie and supported him by not overpaying for mediocre FA WR.  I defended him for not trading for Diggs or Hopkins.  This is just inexcusable.  You've been grooming Sudfeld for 3 years now.  He was your back up.  Ugh, I don't think I've ever been this upset as an Eagles fan.

2 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

If they didn't blow the Thorsen pick then we wouldn't be in this situation. 

Same with Jjaw. 

Same with Pumphrey

Bad drafting catches up.

I said the same. If he or someone else they drafted in that slot was just competent and capable of handling backup duties, they don't make the Hurts pick. It's insurance for Wentz. I get it. But they don't have the confidence to find a guy like that later in the draft. 

TE seems like a great idea for our next pick.  I mean, how are we going to run 12 personnel if Goedert or Ertz get hurt and the replacement #2 TE isn't the best player on offense besides the backup QB?

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

Hurts’ contract will be up too.

hurts' contract will be easier to swallow than wentz's.  and if howie can find a trade partner down the line, he'd be able to move wentz for draft capital..  potentially save $$$$ instead of paying it out..  and extend hurts to be the starter on a cheaper deal than wentz, after playing behind him for all those seasons.

heck hurts may even be ready to be the starter if doug uses him more and more on the offense with gadget plays where he has to pass instead of run.  hurts could be comfortable enough to actually run the offense at that point.

 

K'von Wallace or Donovan Peoples Jones would be nice.

Howie drafted like an accountant. Completely unacceptable.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

#2 QB isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity 

We've been grooming Sudfeld to be the #2 QB for 3 years now and have him on a reasonable contract.  2nd round picks should be spent on players who can make an immediate impact.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

#2 QB isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity 

Wr already had one

Does the organization not like Wentz or something? What is about him? His fundamentalist religious values, the fact that he's from North Dakota, because he's a republican? What the F gives?

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Omg really? You want to go with argument when currently they have sudfeld making 2+ million dollars as the no. 2 QB and could have just as easily signed Flacco to be a no. 2 qb who’s far more accomplished and likely even you think he’s cooked is going to be more prepared to step in than hurts year one 

again you act like they couldn’t have gotten a no. 2 QB backup next year or later in the draft. Again sugar coat it. When we look back and guys in that area are playing wel next year and future please don’t complain about it cause I’ll bring up your dying love for taking a backup QBs at 53 with sudfeld here. And Flacco available. 

Hurts is better than Sudfeld, Flacco and McCown today.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

We've been grooming Sudfeld to be the #2 QB for 3 years now and have him on a reasonable contract.  2nd round picks should be spent on players who can make an immediate impact.

We say we want to be a QB factory but we haven’t actually been able to develop Sudfeld. 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

How much money?  This pick is at least partially to fill an important roster spot cost effectively, unfortunately 

Turk 🙌

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Wr already had one

Actually no — or we wouldn’t have drafted Hurts

Probably not the worst year to take a player you expect to take multiple years to groom...so there's that? 

Going to take IOL with the next pick.

and what the hell did Howie say--"no one has gotten more value out of the QB position"?  Something like that?

what did that mean??

Raiders with Ruggs, Bowden, Edwards is the kind of draft I wanted.

No way in hell Nelson is making that team.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hurts is better than Sudfeld, Flacco and McCown today.

BS. Hurts has proven Jack crap at the nfl level. Again sugar coat it all you want. Hurts has proven nothing at the nfl level. And has played at bama and Oklahoma two of the schools that provide QBs with the greatest talent around him. and yet QBs from those schools have panned our really well right when they didn’t have the luxury of 5* players galore on offense... 

I’m done with this convo if you honesty believe hurts right now today is better as a backup then Flacco or sudfeld who’s been in the system for 2-3 year. BS