2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Jordan love was a first round QB. If caplan is correct (and that’s a big if) you aren’t talking to or very interested in a first round QB to just be a backup or gadget QB. 

again caplan can be talking out of his arse. If he is then F him. However if he’s being honest theres definitely something they aren’t telling. 

I agree with you.  But I would add that Jordan Love was a first round qb who we didn’t draft with our first round pick.  
 

Love had a huge range in this draft.  They were probably very interested in drafting him at 53 if he fell.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Jordan love was a first round QB. If caplan is correct (and that’s a big if) you aren’t talking to or very interested in a first round QB to just be a backup or gadget QB. 

again caplan can be talking out of his arse. If he is then F him. However if he’s being honest theres definitely something they aren’t telling. 

There is more to this, there has to be. They were adamantly against trading 53 to move up for the true number 1 WR they needed. Who values a pick for a backup QB that much.

Just now, blindside said:

Not how they feel. What they know. They may FEEL that he can be the future of the franchise and can win us championships. But if they KNOW he’s thinking about packing it in, they have to do what they have to do regardless of how they FEEL. 

Again, your words- HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT WENTZ.  nice try

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think hurts that is true. What’s the explanation of Very interested in Jordan love rumor? That is the one that catches me more off guard if caplan isn’t BSing is. Jordan love was never falling remotely close to 53. He was projected as a late first. You aren’t spending a pick on a later first for a backup or gadget QB 

You've got to think there's more to it with Wentz here. If there isn't then it makes this pick even worse. 

1 minute ago, Allhaildawk said:

the king of the red herrings strikes again.  Yeah it tells you that when they signed him they were committed to him.  Now, apply that logic to wentz and you're making my point.  You understand that there was a point in time when they gave him that contract, yes? 

Do you know what a red herring is?

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I agree with you.  But I would add that Jordan Love was a first round qb who we didn’t draft with our first round pick.  
 

Love had a huge range in this draft.  They were probably very interested in drafting him at 53 if he fell.

Eh i didn’t see anyone having him fall remotely close to 53. As he’s a QB i don’t think he was getting out of the first round. Someone was always going to do what the ravens did with Lamar to get the extra fifth year option. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think hurts that is true. What’s the explanation of Very interested in Jordan love rumor? That is the one that catches me more off guard if caplan isn’t BSing us. Jordan love was never falling remotely close to 53. He was projected as a mid to late first. Maybe just gather info on him and doing due diligence? However i wouldn’t use very interested in that case. He would’ve said just doing their due diligence 

Here's the thing. You dont even waste time on Love knowing where he was going. They under the radar also spent a lot of time on Hurts leading up to the draft. You dont do that for a backup QB, nobody in the NFL does that.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

You dont do that for a backup QB, nobody in the NFL does that.

Then what's going on? Because that's exactly what they've done here. Unless Wentz isn't coming back. 

Just now, T-1000 said:

Here's the thing. You dont even waste time on Love knowing where he was going. They under the radar also spent a lot of time on Hurts leading up to the draft. You dont do that for a backup QB, nobody in the NFL does that.

 

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You've got to think there's more to it with Wentz here. If there isn't then it makes this pick even worse. 

I need to know what caplan meant by very interested. He is also the guy that likes to say things and then it comes out like i meant just doing their due diligence. Doing due diligence i could see. 

They believe in Wentz the player. That is clear. I do think they worry about his ability to stay healthy, and that made them value a backup QB even more.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

There is more to this, there has to be. They were adamantly against trading 53 to move up for the true number 1 WR they needed. Who values a pick for a backup QB that much.

I think people forget that the draft is about drafting ASSETS not just talent. When Sam Hinkie was the GM of the sixers he stressed this all the time. Wether you agree with it or not Eagles clearly value Hurts as a ASSET, someone they can groom and get a better return on. They also can use him to keep offenses guessing. I'm not going to hype up the pick like I did with Reagor and I don't like the move personally I think its way too risky. I do however understand it and I have faith in Howie/Doug there is no reason anyone should not

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I need to know what caplan meant by very interested. He is also the guy that likes to say things and then it comes out like i meant just doing their due diligence. Doing due diligence i could see. 

True. He was also convinced up to the start of the draft that Aiyuk was the WR we had #1 on our board.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

They believe in Wentz the player. That is clear. I do think they worry about his ability to stay healthy, and that made them value a backup QB even more.

This. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I need to know what caplan meant by very interested. He is also the guy that likes to say things and then it comes out like i meant just doing their due diligence. Doing due diligence i could see. 

Why do due diligence in a player that you really don't need? I mean if Love falls to #53 perhaps you take a punt on him without having done much research in to him but they've apparently spent a lot of time looking in to Hurts.

 

More total yards of offense in 2020, Jalen Hurts or JJAW? 

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

More total yards of offense in 2020, Jalen Hurts or JJAW? 

Oh, no! This will be a legit poll on this board. Save this!

Also... Where's the strategy here? Hurts is a gamble pick to hope you get more value later on? So we aren't building for 2020. But then what was the point in trading for Slay?

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Why do due diligence in a player that you really don't need? I mean if Love falls to #53 perhaps you take a punt on him without having done much research in to him but they've apparently spent a lot of time looking in to Hurts.

Every team does due diligence cause you never know down the road Later on if a player becomes available you have some knowledge about him on a more intimate level. Maybe love fails as a starter and becomes a FA and you might like him as a backup then. That gets thrown around a lot during this process with guys you know the eagles are not going to take. Like us taking a LB round one is never going to happen yet they talked with murray and Queen. 

Ok, I went all Dr. Strange in Infinity War and found the one possible way in existence this pick makes sense. Here goes.

Wentz has told the Eagles privately that if he gets one more serious injury he's pulling an Andrew Luck and is retiring.

That's it. That's the only way. And even then I don't think Hurts is good so the pick still sucks, but that's the only way you can rationalize it.

5 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

They believe in Wentz the player. That is clear. I do think they worry about his ability to stay healthy, and that made them value a backup QB even more.

Teams dont draft backup QBs in the 2nd round.

Just now, T-1000 said:

Teams dont draft backup QBs in the 2nd round.

Eagles are trend setters. Lol

On top of overthinking and overvaluing a backup QB and having concerns about Wentz's ability to stay healthy, I think they envision Hurts could provide a spark to the offense with a big play here and there. They obviously really like Hurts as a prospect and have already referenced Lamar Jackson (even brought in Mornhinweg) and Taysom Hill. They're going to get creative with Hurts for sure.

I don't like the pick either, just thinking what their thought process was.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Teams dont draft backup QBs in the 2nd round.

They just did sir.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Every team does due diligence cause you never know down the road Later on if a player becomes available you have some knowledge about him on a more intimate level. Maybe love fails as a starter and becomes a FA and you might like him as a backup then. That gets thrown around a lot during this process with guys you know the eagles are not going to take. Like us taking a LB round one is never going to happen yet they talked with murray and Queen. 

They didn't on Dillard last year...

8 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

On top of overthinking and overvaluing a backup QB and having concerns about Wentz's ability to stay healthy, I think they envision Hurts could provide a spark to the offense with a big play here and there. They obviously really like Hurts as a prospect and have already referenced Lamar Jackson (even brought in Mornhinweg) and Taysom Hill. They're going to get creative with Hurts for sure.

I don't like the pick either, just thinking what their thought process was.

They just did sir.

Just pointing out last year i was calling for them to use Greg ward a former collegiate Qb. Can be used like Taysom hill to run those types of plays. And we didn’t. And we definitely should’ve been as we lacked great playmakers so get creative to catch a team off guard. 

don’t get me wrong i like hurts better than ward as a QB obviously. But they probably could have experimented with ward doing it last year as he’s also perfect for that type of role.