Just now, blindside said:

Bad at evaluating is different than wasting an asset 

Howie is dumb and this is a wasted asset

 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

What you’re saying is he could have been drafted as the franchise QB. That’s highly unlikely in this scenario. 

That Hurts could have been?  because nobody is saying that...

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t just assume that. The redskins and giants have done nice jobs in the draft and they added some nice pieces in FA. I don’t think they’ll be great but they aren’t going to be nearly as awful as last year.  

Well they got nowhere to go but up. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Howie looks like such an idiot in so many ways. That Wentz contract now looks stupid. This draft pick looks stupid. This whole process makes no sense. 

Why did we trade for Slay?

You think Howie doesnt see how bad this looks? He’s not THAT dumb. There’s a reason for this

Just now, Allhaildawk said:

I didnt change anything i expanded it to what i assumed was common sense at first.  yes, he's going to be a backup.  Yes, he's going to be a developmental QB for future return.  Yes, he's going to be a package player like Hill in NO.  If he succeeds in all of those roles, fills in successfully for wentz, adds an element to the offense, becomes sought after in trade and returns a good haul down the line all on a rookie deal so we're not paying some backup 8 mil a year, good pick.  Pardon me for assuming this would be obvious to all, given that its what every pundit is saying and what Howie said.  "QB factory."  The only people who can't follow a thread of logic are you guys.  

"He's a backup, BEST CASE is a 2d round pick in a few years." 

Uh... a backup just won a superbowl here

"But that wasn't a second round pick"

ok, so now you're talking about acquisition price?  

"This clearly means they don't feel good about wentz"

They just paid Wentz 100mil+ in contract

"but wentz got a concussion and might be rethinking his football future"

that has no bearing on the contract the TEAM paid HIM

"Do you think when they paid him that money it was with the expectation that he'd get hurt and they'd need to take a second backup?"

He's not just a backup

 

Trying to reason with you guys is like a dog chasing the tail end of a loose hose.  You have no logic in what you're saying you're just flailing around because you didnt like the pick or get your guy or whatever the case may be.  That's fine, we all feel that frustration I'm just pointing out that you're not making any sense.  Time will tell.  If he adds to the offense this year, comes in and wins 6 of 8 games his second year and preserves a playoff spot, looks great doing it and gets traded for a first and fifth he's a great pick.  If he busts out he's not.  You know, like any other draft pick.  Just calm down it's going to be ok. 

And yes you did. Call it expanding your argument. You put 3-5 different arguments in it. Anyway you want to slice it. Just like others have done on here as well that you keep criticizing people for. You did literally the same thing people also have done which is expanding their argument. 

thats my only issue with you. You are calling people out on changing arguments by call when you do it expanding an argument. I’d call both sides expanding arguments with opinion and facts brought into the original 

Dallas: We have Zeke, Cooper and Gallup but shall we add Lamb? Yep.

Philadelphia: We just gave Wentz a huge deal. We have a lack of weapons and we just got over a QB controversy. Let's create another one? Yep.

Just now, blindside said:

You think Howie doesnt see how bad this looks? He’s not THAT dumb. There’s a reason for this

There's no good reason where this team comes off looking smart. 

1 minute ago, Allhaildawk said:

That Hurts could have been?  because nobody is saying that...

You’re suggesting it’s a possibility. You did so when you called us dumb for suggesting he’s not something other than a backup or gimmick player. 
 

Was he drafted to be a power back/special teams gunner? That still wouldn’t come close to justifying a 2nd round pick. 

5 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Wrong, but i think if you focus and try reading it again you could understand it.  Consider it your challenge for the day

Wrong! Not really you completely just called what you did expanding your argument. Literally people did the same thing you did and you called it changing argument. lol. It’s hilarious how much you don’t see you are being called out for the same thing you are calling people out on lol. 

Challenge of the day for you... admitting when you did the exact same thing you called people out on. 

 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

There's no good reason where this team comes off looking smart. 

Unless Wentz retires early 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And yes you did. Call it expanding your argument. You put 3-5 different arguments in it. Anyway you want to slice it. Just like others have done on here as well that you keep criticizing people for. You did literally the same thing people also have done which is expanding their argument. 

thats my only issue with you. You are calling people out on changing arguments by call when you do it expanding an argument. I’d call both sides expanding arguments with opinion and facts brought into the original 

Nope, try again.  I really do think you could understand this if you focus.  I say that very sincerely.  

Let's try it this way:  

"I'm saying A"   is not  "I'm saying B"

or

"I'm saying A"...  "Ok but it's not just A, it's A, B, C, etc"

1 minute ago, blindside said:

Unless Wentz retires early 

Unless he retires this off season. 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

You’re suggesting it’s a possibility. You did so when you called us dumb for suggesting he’s not something other than a backup or gimmick player. 
 

Was he drafted to be a power back/special teams gunner? That still wouldn’t come close to justifying a 2nd round pick. 

Show me where I suggested hurts as a franchise QB.  Hint- i never did.  

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wrong! Not really you completely just called what you did expanding your argument. Literally people did the same thing you did and you called it changing argument. lol. It’s hilarious how much you don’t see you are being called out for the same thing you are calling people out on lol. 

Challenge of the day for you... admitting when you did the exact same thing you called people out on. 

You're a trip man, I'll give you that.  You may run into walls but at least you do it full speed.  But no, you saying something is the same doesn't magically make it the same

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Unless he retires this off season. 

Ok. So you’re saying there’s a chance?

6 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Show me where I suggested hurts as a franchise QB.  Hint- i never did.  

You're a trip man, I'll give you that.  You may run into walls but at least you do it full speed.  But no, you saying something is the same doesn't magically make it the same

Lmao  can try to belittle me and think that makes you more right. Go right ahead. I’m having A good laugh about your responses don’t change the fact your doing the exact same thing and then writing something dumb at the end like wake up. 

have a goodnight sparky. 

1 minute ago, blindside said:

Ok. So you’re saying there’s a chance?

I'm saying the only way it makes any sense is if Carson retires this off season. And if he does we are still f'ed.

Just over two years from the franchise’s first Super Bowl victory and at least half the fanbase is calling for Howie’s job.

If the Hurts pick is a total flop and this team doesn’t make the playoffs the next two seasons then Howie is probably out. 

Will he be remembered for constructing the Eagles first ever Super Bowl team or his horrible drafts and "QB factory” comment?  

9 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Well they got nowhere to go but up. 

True. But they have surprisingly not been dumpster fire off seasons like years past. I don’t like all their moves but they haven’t been signing Nate solder like. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lmao  can try to belittle me and think that makes you more right. Go right ahead. I’m having A good laugh about your responses don’t change the fact your doing the exact same thing and then writing something dumb at the end like wake up. 

So no, you cant show me where i suggested he could be drafted as a franchise qb.  

6 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Show me where I suggested hurts as a franchise QB.  Hint- i never did.  

You said we’re dumb for assuming he was drafted to be a backup/gimmick player. What other options are there??? 

I think it's time to recognize... There's a huge disconnect within this organisation. 

18 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

So it appears as though the starters for week 1 of 2020 are in play. I think the only possible starter that would be drafted tomorrow is a slot receiver. 
 

QB - Wentz 

RB - Sanders 

WR - Jackson 

WR - Reagor 

slot - Ward/JJAW/rookie 

We know the O-Line. Dillard and Seumalo on the left side could be good or could be a disaster. 

DE - Graham, Barnett 

DT - Cox, Hargrave 

LB - Gerry 

LB - Probably Taylor 

CB - Slay 

CB - Maddox/Jones 

nickel - NRC 

S - McLeod 

S - I think Mills over Parks. 
 

With everyone healthy, that looks like a 9-7 squad. Since we play the redskins and Giants twice I’ll go 10-6. 

Yeah you can't just pencil the giants and redskins as auto wins anymore, we struggled against both at times last year. And both have had solid drafts while we have gotten one promising prospect. 

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

You said we’re dumb for assuming he was drafted to be a backup/gimmick player. What other options are there??? 

I never said anybody was dumb you guys just have thin skins and assume that anybody who disputes what you're saying thinks you're an idiot.  honestly just go back and read it and even if there weren't fifteen pages of discussion out there maybe there is an article somewhere on the dark web or something that might discuss it.  

 

 

1 minute ago, Allhaildawk said:

So no, you cant show me where i suggested he could be drafted as a franchise qb.  

So you’re suggesting that picking a gadget player and backup QB is more valuable than weapons for your starter or starting players at other positions of need in the second round?

 

Of this was later in the draft I might agree

Just now, blindside said:

So you’re suggesting that picking a gadget player and backup QB is more valuable than weapons for your starter or starting players at other positions of need in the second round?

That second round pick that Howie valued so much the day before. So much he didn't move up to get Lamb.

Just now, devpool said:

Yeah you can't just pencil the giants and redskins as auto wins anymore, we struggled against both at times last year. And both have had solid drafts while we have gotten one promising prospect. 

Safe to say Eagles go 4-2 in the division. I know they play the afc north. I’ll give them 2-2 there. Then 3-3 or 4-2 against the remaining opponents. 

2 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

I never said anybody was dumb you guys just have thin skins and assume that anybody who disputes what you're saying thinks you're an idiot.  honestly just go back and read it and even if there weren't fifteen pages of discussion out there maybe there is an article somewhere on the dark web or something that might discuss it.  

 

 

Classic deflection