OK Fellas...  here's where I'm at.

I'm already over it.

Last night was a whirlwind, and I gotta say the experience on these boards was even more traumatic as I think back on it.  But I get it  I'm pissed.  We def took an 'L' last night.  But it's done.  It's in the past.

I like the fast LB we grabbed at the end.  I *love* Reagor. We have 3 picks in the next round, 5 more in total today, and I'm excited to see who we can grab and how we can beef up the areas we need to hit.  As far as I'm concerned, the Hurts pick has been discussed enough, and I have no interest in adding to, or reading more about it.  Let's get some good players today, boys.

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

AJ Feeley

He was WAY before 2012.

I wouldn't count the AR era as "this FO".

4 hours ago, greend said:

Dude, that isn't the only "rational " reason.  They think he's enough of a play maker that he's worth a 2. They think that having a Hill type guy to come in will help this offense and have a backup q.b. at the same time.

While most of us disagree with that and would rather have had a 2and w.r. there it's still far from all these conspiracy theories you guys are throwing out there.

OK, wild hair up Howie and DP’s a** or multi-millionaire, highly intelligent Wentz gave them notice, choice is your’s. If the former, since well compensated they deserve just a short leash. 

Just now, TEW said:

Not a bad idea.

I mean, really, that is eventually where the game will go. There will come a time when the population is big enough, with enough athletic passers, where having multiple threats to pass the ball on the field at the same time will become common place.

But I think this angle is more of a bonus than the main reason for the pick. The main reason we made the pick is that we need a good backup.

hell if thats the case lets just start installing several change of direction lateral plays in the offense lol. lets just throw whatever strategy we can come up with at the wall ans see what sticks

Just now, PrinceKelby said:

He was WAY before 2012.

I wouldn't count the AR era as "this FO".

I know, i was joking 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I mean.. I made a whole bunch of posts that clearly portrayed my message. I dont think I can really explain what I am implying any more than I already have. 

Sorry, but I’m not going back through pages to find your point. The bottom line is Hurts will not command a 1st, because he’s not going to be playing enough to demand that value. I’ll add if he does play that much and he raises his value that much the Eagles would be fools to trade him!

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's not a negative.

Given the subject it is.

Gandy-Golden or DPJ please

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Traded next years 4th

We dont have a 4th

I like mine:

 

Traded the rest of our picks for 2021 picks so a new GM can make them.

1 minute ago, PrinceKelby said:

He was WAY before 2012.

I wouldn't count the AR era as "this FO".

Not to mention Feely was a late round pick they flipped for high value. 

6 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Can someone explain to me why I keep reading that there is value to develop Jalen Hurts only to "flip" him in a couple of years?  If we flipped Nate Sudfeld, then that's value.  If we flipped Clayton Thorson for a 2nd after drafting him in the 4th, that's value.  Flipping AJ Feeley for a 2nd was great value.  But if we draft Hurts in the 2nd, and trade him for a 2nd in 2-3 years, THERE"S NO VALUE IN THAT.  How about I buy my house for 400K, put an ish ton of time, work, and money into it, add a garage, maybe a pool, and then I sell it for 400K 3 years later?  Howie's a genius!!  

Look at the total value. If you get 3 years of a cheap good QB, then you get your draft pick (maybe more?) back after that, you’ve netted 3 years of a good backup QB.

Or looked at another way, you save $5M per season in cap space that it would cost to get an equivalent veteran QB, then get the draft pick back later.

In both cases, you’re coming out net positive.

Well, that was fun.

I loved the Reagor pick - he was my guy all along given where the Eagles were picking.

I actually like the Taylor pick - the guys just jumps out on tape.

I  forgot what the other pick was...

23 minutes ago, QBhunter58 said:

Career	Clemson					527	804	65.5	6945	8.6	9.6	66	12	162.2
*2018	Clemson	ACC	FR	QB	15	259	397	65.2	3280	8.3	9.3	30	4	157.6
*2019	Clemson	ACC	SO	QB	15	268	407	65.8	3665	9.0	9.9	36	8	166.7

 

*2016	Alabama	SEC	FR	QB	15	240	382	62.8	2780	7.3	7.4	23	9	139.1
*2017	Alabama	SEC	SO	QB	14	154	255	60.4	2081	8.2	9.3	17	1	150.2
*2018	Alabama	SEC	JR	QB	13	51	70	72.9	765	10.9	11.9	8	2	196.7
*2019	Oklahoma	Big 12	SR	QB	14	237	340	69.7	3851	11.3	12.2	32	8	191.2

 

because Jalen is vastly more accurate^^^? What am I missing here? Are we really comparing a top 5 pick to Hurts (who is a heck of a player, but a project)

The bolded is projection.  You don't know where Lawrence will be drafted.   Matt Barkley was looked at as a guy who would be a top of Round 1 pick before his last year at USC.   That didn't turn out very well.

 

And 72.9% comp pct and 69.7% in his last 2 for Hurts.   We'll see what Lawrence does.   The draft is an interesting thing and a player that isn't on the radar one year before he's drafted can sky rocket up the rankings, and a guy who's at the top can tumble terribly.  Even within a draft, a guy like Aaron Rodgers that everyone has as a top 5 pick can fall way off.  (And that's not unique to Rodgers, who was a great investment in a 🤔 moment for GB at the time, but his value was awesome where they grabbed him.)  But, that also happened with Bridgewater, who wasn't quite as highly ranked as Rodgers.  Happened with Brady Quinn.

Hurts to Ertz 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I like the Reagor pick.  I really do.  I wasn't wild about trading up for Lamb. I wasn't wild about Mims in round 1...in round 2, sure.

But if Reagor struggles as a rookie, Lamb and Mims have big rookie years (plus any collection of WRs in between), Hurts holds the clipboard, and the Eagles miss the playoffs while struggling with a lack of weapons...I cannot fathom how you can not fire Howie Roseman at the end of the year.

I'd be fine if they kept Howie to handle trades and salary cap as I feel he does a good job with that.

But they need someone else, someone new to handle the draft and make the picks.

5 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Traded next years 4th

lol half those guys will be gone before our first pick

I dont know how much of a turd Kenny Robinson is, but Im interested.

With the next few picks, if they can get 2 of Gabriel Davis, Peoples-Jones, Kenny Robinson, Anthony McFarland

then this class is going to be full of exciting playmakers and uber athletes and look pretty darn good on paper. 

Unfortunately Robinson and McFarland have character concerns.

And I think Anae is at or near the top of their board though he would be a good pick at DE too. I think that could be coming next. 

Lol did anyone see Isaiah Wilson's mom literally pull his girlfriend off his lap?

 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Sorry, but I’m not going back through pages to find your point. The bottom line is Hurts will not command a 1st, because he’s not going to be playing enough to demand that value. I’ll add if he does play that much and he raises his value that much the Eagles would be fools to trade him!

eh.. we will see. 

If he plays like 5 plays a game and is a TD factory in the red zone I dont see why its out of the question. 

4 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said:

At best the Hurts pick was a reach. At worst it's as dumb as people are saying it is.

I pray this is how it goes down.

Schematically, pretty much.  Think the Washington C over the XFL'er and it makes sense-but I have no clue where they value DPJ v. other WR that might be available.  Dumpster dive for a power back as soon as the option is given them.

If his character checks out, I’d consider Hightower in the 5th. If the goal is to make the WR class faster while not going super small he fits the bill. Decent return ability too. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

The bolded is projection.  You don't know where Lawrence will be drafted.   Matt Barkley was looked at as a guy who would be a top of Round 1 pick before his last year at USC.   That didn't turn out very well.

 

And 72.9% comp pct and 69.7% in his last 2 for Hurts.   We'll see what Lawrence does.   The draft is an interesting thing and a player that isn't on the radar one year before he's drafted can sky rocket up the rankings, and a guy who's at the top can tumble terribly.  Even within a draft, a guy like Aaron Rodgers that everyone has as a top 5 pick can fall way off.  (And that's not unique to Rodgers, who was a great investment in a 🤔 moment for GB at the time, but his value was awesome where they grabbed him.)  But, that also happened with Bridgewater, who wasn't quite as highly ranked as Rodgers.  Happened with Brady Quinn.

There’s a chance Trevor Lawrence doesn’t even play next year. With the pandemic and if college football is postponed let’s say until November/December he might just say screw it I’m not gonna risk playing now getting hurt when the draft is closer. There was talk of them having college football next January instead of the fall. If they start college football in December or January I could see a lot of kids who are draft eligible just saying I’m not playing that close to the NFL draft and risking it. They already don’t take that type of risk with bowl games that are four five months before the draft

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

eh.. we will see. 

If he plays like 5 plays a game and is a TD factory in the red zone I dont see why its out of the question. 

If he plays in 5 games and is a tad factory as a rookie on a team friendly contract and that means Wentz was down for five games and during that time the rookie balled out! You’re trading that guy??? Dumb.

4 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Hurts to Ertz 

With the Eagles brain trust, it might be Ertz to Hurts.