1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

There's no doubt

Well in that case, I second the motion of allowing Toaster. The other one can pound sand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless he has a wife or legal aged daughter, and pics. 

27 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-draft-howie-roseman-jj-arcega-whiteside-andre-dillard-jeffrey-lurie-20200421.html

McLane going after Howie a little bit here.

 

Meh.  Dillard has not shown anything so far to say he’s a "miss”.  

Jury is still out on JJAW, he actually made some plays late in the season.

 And Jones has been hampered by injuries, will be interesting to see if he has a "breakout year” this year, hopefully injury free. 

 

12 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They picked Barnett again!

Oddly I was rooting for OJ Howard 

It's actually a really interesting article. McLane intimates that while Howie makes the final decision, he makes it based off input on voices in the organization, not necessarily his own judgement. And McLane suggests when there are that many voices in the organization pushing for certain players, it's harder to get a consensus.

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Of the receivers left on their board, Parris Campbell had the highest grade of the outside receivers. DK Metcalf had a similar grade, but he had been flagged as a medical alert and was further down the board.

Mecole Hardman was next ahead of Arcega-Whiteside – they had similar grades – but Hardman went to the Chiefs the slot before the Eagles. The clock started. The head honchos huddled. Two lobbied for Campbell based on his ranking. One argued for Arcega-Whiteside, and the last holdout went along. Roseman made the final decision based on the side with more clout.

 

9 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

It's actually a really interesting article. McLane intimates that while Howie makes the final decision, he makes it based off input on voices in the organization, not necessarily his own judgement. And McLane suggests when there are that many voices in the organization pushing for certain players, it's harder to get a consensus.

 

That is pretty awful process re JJAW and Campbell. That’s the exact kind of discussion that should have been hashed out in the weeks leading up to the draft. 

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Oddly I was rooting for OJ Howard 

I was so mad they didnt take Howard my little girl started crying. It instantly changed my approach to the draft

I'm sure this happens to every organization, but this is embarrassing nonetheless.

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Two years earlier, the Eagles had only one second-round pick. Defensive end Derek Barnett went in the first round and as the No. 43 overall pick neared, the Eagles had their sights set on running back Dalvin Cook. But the Vikings traded up two spots ahead and took the Florida State product.

The Eagles weren’t left to scramble – the draft is always unpredictable – but the next best prospect on their board had a medical alert. Jones had a "Day 1” grade, but he had ruptured an Achilles only a month earlier and would likely miss most of his rookie season. The Eagles took the gamble.

But Pederson still wanted a running back. Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt were gone by the time the Eagles selected next in the third round. They took cornerback Rasul Douglas, even though Weidl was a proponent for Pittsburgh running back James Conner, who went six places later.

Running backs were flying off the shelves and Pederson wanted one. After the Eagles drafted receiver Mack Hollins early in the fourth round, Roseman traded up seven spots later in the round for Donnel Pumphrey.

When the announcement came, the draft room erupted into applause.

"He’s like a Darren Sproles,” someone said.

When Pumphrey showed up for his first official physical with the Eagles, one member of the medical staff looked at the scrawny running back and saw zero resemblance to the muscle-bound Sproles.

 

"That ain’t no Darren Sproles,” he would later say.

Pumphrey, who had the NFL label tattooed on his leg not long after being drafted, would never play a snap in the NFL.

"He's like Darren Sproles"

Really?

I hope whomever said that is no longer employed. Even the dumbest host on Philly sports radio would have laughed at that comparison and this person is paid to make professional evaluations. Good grief.

6 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

It's actually a really interesting article. McLane intimates that while Howie makes the final decision, he makes it based off input on voices in the organization, not necessarily his own judgement. And McLane suggests when there are that many voices in the organization pushing for certain players, it's harder to get a consensus.

 

Seems to me that whatever process ends in howie selecting Humphrey is a poorly executed process.

Hopefully the people that were in the room that influenced that pick and the like are no where near this draft.

10 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

It's actually a really interesting article. McLane intimates that while Howie makes the final decision, he makes it based off input on voices in the organization, not necessarily his own judgement. And McLane suggests when there are that many voices in the organization pushing for certain players, it's harder to get a consensus.

 

Why can't Lurie just bring in a pro who knows how to run a draft instead of a money guy going around the room for a consensus.       This explains why the drafts are so piss poor, especially with regard to difference makers - paralysis by analysis.     

29 minutes ago, 4thandLong said:

He is such a **** it gives me chills!

Tom Brady is a lot like Justin Timberlake to me. I so badly want to hate them, but I just can't.

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That is pretty awful process re JJAW and Campbell. That’s the exact kind of discussion that should have been hashed out in the weeks leading up to the draft. 

Campbell was terrible last year as well. My big take away is that they were one pick away from getting Mecole Hardman and how drastically that would change this year's draft strategy. 

3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Campbell was terrible last year as well. My big take away is that they were one pick away from getting Mecole Hardman and how drastically that would change this year's draft strategy. 

My belief since hardman got picked was reid knew the eagles wanted hardman and leaped us to get him. At that time it was unknown if hill would be suspended and Reid went up to go get him. 

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Campbell was terrible last year as well. My big take away is that they were one pick away from getting Mecole Hardman and how drastically that would change this year's draft strategy. 

Campbell got hurt. He had a hamstring injury, sports hernia surgery, broke his hand and then fractured his foot. He still had comparable stats to JJAW. 

But really, the 2019 season isn’t the point. It’s debating while on the clock and then taking a lower rated player at the same position. That’s really bad. You spend months working on this and then while in the clock you change the order of the players? That’s really stupid. 

45 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I'm curious of where this "Schwartz is driving the offseason" narrative came from.

I look at this year so far as time to make up for the inattention the defense has suffered over the past few years.

Only three day-one picks since Chip - Barnett, Jones, Douglas.

It’s a lazy take because the WRs were so bad and we traded for Slay and signed Hargrave instead of signing the premium WR talent like Anderson and Perriman 

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Campbell was terrible last year as well. My big take away is that they were one pick away from getting Mecole Hardman and how drastically that would change this year's draft strategy. 

Campbell was hurt all year...I think he only played in 7 games.  

23 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

It's actually a really interesting article. McLane intimates that while Howie makes the final decision, he makes it based off input on voices in the organization, not necessarily his own judgement. And McLane suggests when there are that many voices in the organization pushing for certain players, it's harder to get a consensus.

 

I’ve been saying for a while that the JJAW pick had Joe Douglas finger prints all over it. I’m really glad he’s gone. I Fing hate his style of skill players.

That said, what is really troubling is that the Eagles have a draft board with grades and then come draft day they are throwing those draft grades in the trash. If you have one guy ranked higher than another after months of preparation, it reflects very poorly that when the moment of pressure comes they can’t stick to their board.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Campbell got hurt. He had a hamstring injury, sports hernia surgery, broke his hand and then fractured his foot. He still had comparable stats to JJAW. 

But really, the 2019 season isn’t the point. It’s debating while on the clock and then taking a lower rated player at the same position. That’s really bad. You spend months working on this and then while in the clock you change the order of the players? That’s really stupid. 

He had barely over 100 yards in 7 games. JJAW was terrible, Campbell was really bad, who cares. They obviously missed out on Hardman and shouldn't have had Metcalf off their board for medicals. 

What goes into red flagging a player because of injury? Do they red flag anyone with even a modicum of an injury past? Do they only red flag them when there is serious concern?

It probably varies for each team, but I bet some teams get really paranoid about drafting anyone with the slightest medical or character questions and pass on them entirely. I think that's being too extreme.

Did drafting Sidney Jones and him starting his career slow cause them to second guess taking Metcalf I wonder?

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Campbell got hurt. He had a hamstring injury, sports hernia surgery, broke his hand and then fractured his foot. He still had comparable stats to JJAW. 

But really, the 2019 season isn’t the point. It’s debating while on the clock and then taking a lower rated player at the same position. That’s really bad. You spend months working on this and then while in the clock you change the order of the players? That’s really stupid. 

THIS!

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s a lazy take because the WRs were so bad and we traded for Slay and signed Hargrave instead of signing the premium WR talent like Anderson and Perriman 

I do think he has more pull than a typical DC, but that makes sense as a former HC who has been given the keys to the defense. We should be trying to get the types of players he wants. If he wants personnel power though, he better be right. Last year there were too many misses, of you believe the reports. 

35 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Meh.  Dillard has not shown anything so far to say he’s a "miss”.  

Jury is still out on JJAW, he actually made some plays late in the season.

 And Jones has been hampered by injuries, will be interesting to see if he has a "breakout year” this year, hopefully injury free. 

 

I really don’t understand what Dillard did for a large group of people to do a complete 180 on him 

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

I’ve been saying for a while that the JJAW pick had Joe Douglas finger prints all over it. I’m really glad he’s gone. I Fing hate his style of skill players.

That said, what is really troubling is that the Eagles have a draft board with grades and then come draft day they are throwing those draft grades in the trash. If you have one guy ranked higher than another after months of preparation, it reflects very poorly that when the moment of pressure comes they can’t stick to their board.

Yuuuuuuuuuup. That completely spits in the face of the entire process. 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

THIS!

Everybody's an expert with 20/20 hindsight and not having 7 minutes to make a huge decision. 

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

He had barely over 100 yards in 7 games. JJAW was terrible, Campbell was really bad, who cares. They obviously missed out on Hardman and shouldn't have had Metcalf off their board for medicals. 

I feel like you’ve completely missed the point here. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I really don’t understand what Dillard did for a large group of people to do a complete 180 on him 

Seriously.  One report from (who knows what source) saying he was soft and all of a sudden he's a bust now?  lol