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Just now, T-1000 said:

Everybody's an expert with 20/20 hindsight and not having 7 minutes to make a huge decision. 

They had effing foresight. That’s why you have a GD board in the first place. This isn’t hard. 

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    I mentioned this previously on this board, and in the past years ago on the other board.   I'm not sure Howie has ever come out and said it this plainly, but Howie is telling the truth here.   

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1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I really don’t understand what Dillard did for a large group of people to do a complete 180 on him 

People being so down on Dillard is something I don't get. Other than the game at RT he was pretty good when he played last year. Gargano said today that some people in the Eagles organization think he can't play, and yet they chose to let Jason Peters go and haven't signed a single T in free agency as insurance for Dillard. Not saying he looks like a great or even good pick, but he certainly doesn't look like a bad pick right now.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

They had effing foresight. That’s why you have a GD board in the first place. This isn’t hard. 

You should totally have a job in the NFL drafting players.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I really don’t understand what Dillard did for a large group of people to do a complete 180 on him 

McLane and Kempski are at least two people who've heard some less than ideal things about his toughness. I know one other did as well, but I forget who, Derrick Gunn maybe?

Regardless, whether it's justified or not, there is word going around the reporter circles that he is soft.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I do think he has more pull than a typical DC, but that makes sense as a former HC who has been given the keys to the defense. We should be trying to get the types of players he wants. If he wants personnel power though, he better be right. Last year there were too many misses, of you believe the reports. 

Yep. I for sure think his voice carries more weight than most Coordinators, but it makes sense when you consider the situation. To think he has complete control over the roster and offseason plans is overblown though. 

Just now, FTheCowboys said:

McLane and Kempski are at least two people who've heard some less than ideal things about his toughness. I know one other did as well, but I forget who, Derrick Gunn maybe?

Regardless, whether it's justified or not, there is word going around the reporter circles that he is soft.

And yet they let Peters go and haven't signed a veteran OT to compete with Dillard. Doesn't mean they are right but the Eagles are willing to risk their 109 million dollar investment's blind side on Dillard which tells me a lot more.

Just now, T-1000 said:

You should totally have a job in the NFL drafting players.

If we employed guys who gave standing ovations for picking Pumphrey, I don't think he could do much worse tbh...

3 hours ago, Khani1 said:

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1 hour ago, TEW said:

I can tell you my ideal but somewhat realistic scenario would be a trade back to the bottom of the first round, get an extra 2nd (maybe we have to give up a later pick) or 3rd, and take someone with speed like Reagor or Mims around #30.

Then with that extra premium pick, we can fill some defensive holes and still get another good WR prospect or even two on the roster (some names I like in no particular order would be Claypool, Duvernay, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Hamler).

Not very realistic.  Especially if you have an obvious need for WR.  This is the year you ignore the critics and make sure you don't leave round 1 without one.  The guys you might get in later rounds have not worked.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Joe Douglas set the board, so we better hope Weidl is better. 

Are we sure Weidl is doing that?  I have been getting the feeling this is the first time Howie had a chance to make his own big board.  Andy Weidl doesn't outrank him there, I don't think.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

You should totally have a job in the NFL drafting players.

Look, if you don’t think it’s an issue to change the order of your draft board while on the clock, I can’t help you. 

Would I be a good GM? Nah. But I’m not so stupid that I would decide to debate which WR to take when one is ranked higher than another. That’s as easy as it gets. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. I for sure think his voice carries more weight than most Coordinators, but it makes sense when you consider the situation. To think he has complete control over the roster and offseason plans is overblown though. 

No doubt. Howie isn’t his puppet. 

1 minute ago, Green Dog said:

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Not very realistic.  Especially if you have an obvious need for WR.  This is the year you ignore the critics and make sure you don't leave round 1 without one.  The guys you might get in later rounds have not worked.

Are we sure Weidl is doing that?  I have been getting the feeling this is the first time Howie had a chance to make his own big board.  Andy Weidl doesn't outrank him there, I don't think.

It’s been reported that Weidl sets the board and Howie makes the picks, same as with Joe. 

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

People being so down on Dillard is something I don't get. Other than the game at RT he was pretty good when he played last year. Gargano said today that some people in the Eagles organization think he can't play, and yet they chose to let Jason Peters go and haven't signed a single T in free agency as insurance for Dillard. Not saying he looks like a great or even good pick, but he certainly doesn't look like a bad pick right now.

Because Gargano knows f all.

Just now, ManuManu said:

It’s been reported that Weidl sets the board and Howie makes the picks, same as with Joe. 

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44 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Meh.  Dillard has not shown anything so far to say he’s a "miss”.  

Jury is still out on JJAW, he actually made some plays late in the season.

 And Jones has been hampered by injuries, will be interesting to see if he has a "breakout year” this year, hopefully injury free. 

 

Yeah, he moved from one end of the bench to the other. I'm not sure I would call those plays, but to each their own.

9 minutes ago, TEW said:

I’ve been saying for a while that the JJAW pick had Joe Douglas finger prints all over it. I’m really glad he’s gone. I Fing hate his style of skill players.

That said, what is really troubling is that the Eagles have a draft board with grades and then come draft day they are throwing those draft grades in the trash. If you have one guy ranked higher than another after months of preparation, it reflects very poorly that when the moment of pressure comes they can’t stick to their board.

Someone mentioned the other day that a portion of the Eagles front office was from Baltimore, who came in with Joe Douglas, and Baltimore always struggled to draft WRs. Then they leave Baltimore and they take Hollywood Brown who looked very good. Those same guys remain here and we've also struggled to find WRs. Maybe it was more Douglas' people than Howie who simply suck at picking WRs or maybe it's just a total coincidence.

But it's always fun to point blame, so pick up a dart and give it a toss.

Just now, ManuManu said:

Look, if you don’t think it’s an issue to change the order of your draft board while on the clock, I can’t help you. 

Would I be a good GM? Nah. But I’m not so stupid that I would decide to debate which WR to take when one is ranked higher than another. That’s as easy as it gets. 

You are taking one small quote and running with it. First off, McLane could be full of it. Second, even if that were the case, you ever think that maybe they had them in the same cluster and with good reason chose JJAW. Maybe they thought he was a better fit in the offense. They liked his character more, etc. You are getting all worked up though over one little snippet of something a beat writer said and running with it. I am not defending the pick, but the idea of taking McLane's word as gospel and trashing their process when you don't know anything for certain is silly in my opinion. Carry on though.

6 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McLane and Kempski are at least two people who've heard some less than ideal things about his toughness. I know one other did as well, but I forget who, Derrick Gunn maybe?

Regardless, whether it's justified or not, there is word going around the reporter circles that he is soft.

I don't think he's soft.

They showed footage last year of him pissed off with coaches calming him down.

Kind of the opposite of soft, but sometimes reporters like to manipulate the visual.

3 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

If we employed guys who gave standing ovations for picking Pumphrey, I don't think he could do much worse tbh...

I read that and when they compared him to sproles and thought why does that guy have a job. All you had to do was look at him at the combine and know he wasn’t built like sproles at all.

you want to see someone built more closely to sproles look at Boston scott or this class jj Taylor. Both are much more stocky and thick then pumphrey. 

Just now, Green Dog said:

I don't think he's soft.

They showed footage last year of him pissed off with coaches calming him down.

Kind of the opposite of soft, but sometimes reporters like to manipulate the visual.

One of them reported he broke down crying and he needed to be consoled on multiple occasions. You never know what is true. Some stories carry smoke for years and never turn out to be anything. Some turn into something. Dillard's future is far from decided, but I do think it's likely some in the organization probably question his toughness, especially in a really demanding city like Philly.

1 minute ago, Green Dog said:

I don't think he's soft.

They showed footage last year of him pissed off with coaches calming him down.

Kind of the opposite of soft, but sometimes reporters like to manipulate the visual.

Yep, and for some reason a lot of people like to hang on their every word as if it's gospel. I take most things beat writers say with a huge grain of salt, especially someone like McLane who has clearly had an axe to grind with the Eagles organization over the years.

27 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

I'm sure this happens to every organization, but this is embarrassing nonetheless.

"He's like Darren Sproles"

Really?

I hope whomever said that is no longer employed. Even the dumbest host on Philly sports radio would have laughed at that comparison and this person is paid to make professional evaluations. Good grief.

No ..... the problem was the Eagles zeroed in on Pumphrey extremely early in the process, and there were lots of people on the EMB at the time who were touting him also.  There were others of us who kept saying ‘this guy is nothing like Sproles; Sproles was dynamic because of his PR prowess; this guy never even returned a punt in college’

The answer from the Pumphrey boosters was that it’s easy to learn how to return punts — he’s got such great quickness.  Quickness, playing against whatever competition San Diego State was beating up on.

The Eagles, for whatever reason, saw an heir-apparent in Pumphrey and traded up in the 4th round to take a player who had a 6th round grade on most boards.  Couple that with drafting Mack Hollins later in the same round — I thought for sure Howie must have been passing a dump for a whole hour when those crap picks were made.

Just now, FTheCowboys said:

One of them reported he broke down crying and he needed to be consoled on multiple occasions. You never know what is true. Some stories carry smoke for years and never turn out to be anything. Some turn into something. Dillard's future is far from decided, but I do think it's likely some in the organization probably question his toughness, especially in a really demanding city like Philly.

You ever listen to Brian Dawkins talk about the stuff he went through mentally during his rookie season. Not saying Dillard will be great, but even great players have a very difficult time transitioning to the NFL from a mental perspective. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Just as a thought.  RJP.  Village Idiot 

Wow, you really got me with that zinger :thumbup:

11 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

McLane and Kempski are at least two people who've heard some less than ideal things about his toughness. I know one other did as well, but I forget who, Derrick Gunn maybe?

Regardless, whether it's justified or not, there is word going around the reporter circles that he is soft.

Yea, but all this comes out the same time Doug said he wanted Peters back. Seemed to be a lot of people taking his quote and trying to make a puzzle fit. 

38 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

I'm sure this happens to every organization, but this is embarrassing nonetheless.

"He's like Darren Sproles"

Really?

I hope whomever said that is no longer employed. Even the dumbest host on Philly sports radio would have laughed at that comparison and this person is paid to make professional evaluations. Good grief.

All I know is that we won the SB nine months later, so I wouldn't have changed a thing that year.

 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I like to cook my meat in rootbeer with all the spices then take the meat out and reduce the rootbeer down with all the spices and fat into a sticky sauce then shred the meat and re add it to the sauce, my kids like it because its sweet not to spicey.

I have a London broil as it was on sale that I plan to use a red wine marinade on that I will reduce into a sauce.  Have a white wine reduction planned for some chicken for my wife if she will sacrifice a cup of wine.  The red wine is a bottle I opened from the cellar that wasn’t quite what I remembered but should make a good sauce.  Figure the wife owes me as I used some of my tequila for tequila lime chicken 

Never tried to reduce a liquid like root beer.  Does the sugar burn or carmelize?

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