46 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Not necessarily. We have to remember Lane has gotten injured over the last few years and he and kelce are the ‘old men’ in the OL room. 

Very true... but if Prince can step in at either of these OT positions, that makes things easier to move on from either if needed.   

 

(I really like Prince and see him as a potential starting OT.)

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree, it's hard seeing them give up on him but all Ward did was produce when called upon.  He won the Redskins game for us.  He's dependable, shifty and also emergency QB.  He has real value to this team.  JJAW showed absolutely nothing.  

Does he love football?  Can he run?  Is he healthy?  2 of those I question about JJAW.  They went all in with WR today in the draft.  If they cut/trade a 2nd rounder from last year so be it. 

Wards production on the field should be a better guarantee for a spot than where JJAW was drafted.

A lot of Ward’s production came against soft zones, coverage busts and flat routes against LBs. It was a fun story, but he’s just a bottom of the roster guy. Kudos for the TD catch over Norman. No one can ever take that moment away from him. 

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

Not really.

Douglas was clearly the guy ranking the board.  His finger prints were all over those lousy picks, especially JJAW. The difference in focus this year was night and day with Douglas gone.

Weidl set the board this year, just like Joe. Howie had the final say, just like with Joe. 

47 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

This entire board was full last night of basically everyone ripping the pick to shreds, so those are the people you’re referring to. The posts are all still in this thread if you want to go back and look at them. That isn’t the "wip crowd” it’s the majority of this forum.

And every single one of the people who disliked it gave insightful, rational, and intelligent reasons as to why.

if you can’t handle cynical opinions that says more about you than it does the people who have them.

No.  Some people react in the moment, then after time find a way to cope with it.  Your coping skills are lacking.  

 

You have literally complained about the same thing in every single post for the last 27 hours in here.  It's a little one note.  Find another topic.   Everyone knows your opinion on Hurts... time to move on and post about anything else.

27 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Over the last few years... Eagles would have been better off trading their 2nd round picks...

Sydney Jones, JJAW, Eric Rowe, Jordan Matthews, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Nate Allen

Of course, there's also:  Dallas Goedert, Zach Ertz, Miles Sanders

And then there's the... ok picks... Mychal Kendricks and Vinny Curry

Yeah... about 50% of the time, they pretty much suck, about 25% decent hits and 25% great players. 

 

Something for the Eagles to consider...

50% hits is about average for the second round. Not sure I put JMat in with the misses.  He did well before the injury.   Not ready to give up on Jones.  Supposedly working with a CB guru. I really suspect he gets his confidence back with Jenkins’ "leadership” gone.  With Slay on the other outside spot, he may just rise up and claim the number two slot.  Rowe did alright with the Pats, just became a poor fit here.  Jury is still out on JJAW.   Jarrett and Allen?  Owe to combine Jarrett’s instincts with Allen’s athleticism.  Perfect S.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Jets draft doesn’t look so bad...

They had one of the more athletic drafts in the league too. I believe it was top 5. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree, it's hard seeing them give up on him but all Ward did was produce when called upon.  He won the Redskins game for us.  He's dependable, shifty and also emergency QB.  He has real value to this team.  JJAW showed absolutely nothing.  

Does he love football?  Can he run?  Is he healthy?  2 of those I question about JJAW.  They went all in with WR today in the draft.  If they cut/trade a 2nd rounder from last year so be it. 

Wards production on the field should be a better guarantee for a spot than where JJAW was drafted.

I believe some receivers just are better fits for M-M or zone defenses. Due to the injuries outside, the Eagles were forced into tighter formations and defenses were able to run a lot more zone against them.

I think JJAW skill set is best with a smaller CB working on him M-M or having space and being thrown to the open spot. He did show a rare flash or two in M-M, but really struggled with zones. I think he deserves a break and an opportunity with the offense back intact.

 

I think the person who needs to come in prepared is Ward, which I see more effective with zone D's.

Just now, eagle45 said:

Jets draft doesn’t look so bad...

Maybe he learned from all of his mistakes here.  In any case, I'm not that impressed.  Mims, Davis and Hall were good moves.  The rest was forgettable.

12 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

100% agree on Bradley. Mentioned it earlier. ‘Looks like Tarzan, plays like jane’

I really am not at all impressed with Bradley.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Weidl set the board this year, just like Joe. Howie had the final say, just like with Joe. 

So Joe is gone, and the entire way we evaluate talent changed. Yeah...

 

14 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It's going to be hilarious when they pull Wentz off the field inside the ten yard line just to try to justify spending a 2nd on Hurts to get him some snaps. It's not like Wentz is one of the best redzone QBs in the league or anything. 

There is that, my question becomes and I’m surprise no one asked the Eagles during that press conference why didn’t you try to use Greg Ward in a taysom hill type role last year when you were desperate for offense at times. he can play wide receiver as he learned the position and was a collegiate quarterback. Maybe it’s a new coaches. I’m probably guaranteeing it has to do with that. But I have a hard time believing we had Taylor who’s thought about this (based on his quotes) and they never decided let’s see how it would function with Greg Ward in a hill type role last year who could do some of that stuff and could’ve used some instant offense/juice at times. 

43 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

I am just happy to finally see some linebackers after 3 offseasons of neglect. It looks like a Jenkins replacement as well...

I agree.  But... just one question.  What's a linebacker?  

Just now, TEW said:

So Joe is gone, and the entire way we evaluate talent changed. Yeah...

Except he drafted athletes this year in NY too. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Except he drafted athletes this year in NY too. 

I guess he learned from his miserable failure while in Philly.

Just now, ManuManu said:

Except he drafted athletes this year in NY too. 

He did.  But he didn't parlay a comp pick for 4 picks.  That was all Howie...and good chance Douglas tells Howie to stay put and draft "his guy" instead.  

Howie is in control of the roster. He wasn’t at the mercy of Douglas. That’s a cop out.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No.  Some people react in the moment, then after time find a way to cope with it.  Your coping skills are lacking.  

 

You have literally complained about the same thing in every single post for the last 27 hours in here.  It's a little one note.  Find another topic.   Everyone knows your opinion on Hurts... time to move on and post about anything else.

Ok, so here's the deal since people started to turn this into a contentious thing here.

 

I wear my heart on my sleeve. I post my raw emotions, I post my thoughts. Sometimes they'll be analytical. Sometimes they'll be just me venting my raw frustrations. I'm passionate, I like to rant. That's my style. I happen to really dislike this draft and much of what they've done this offseason. I've explained why in great depth several times. That's how I feel. I'm always going to give my honest opinions positive or negative. I don't participate in groupthink. I'll stand by my opinions on something whether I'm in the majority, like I am with the Jalen Hurts move. Or if I'm the only person in the world who feels some way about a move. People disingenuously started to front about that being a bunch of different things that simply untrue and factually incorrect. I didn't "literally" complain about the same thing in every post, as we discussed things I'd like the Eagles to do and positions I'd like them to target in free agency. My cynicism for this draft is bothering people. That's your right. However, that, I can't help you with. Don't tell me how or what to post. All I can suggest is if you don't like reading it, there is an ignore option and you're more than welcome to use it if you're that thin skinned. Enjoy your night.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

They had one of the more athletic drafts in the league too. I believe it was top 5. 

Perhaps they both were forced to see the light after drafting guys like Douglas, JJAW, and Barnett with fixed physical limitations in the first 3 rounds consistently.  

Just now, Ace Nova said:

He did.  But he didn't parlay a comp pick for 4 picks.  That was all Howie...and good chance Douglas tells Howie to stay put and draft "his guy" instead.  

Joe was all over the place moving around this week. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Perhaps they both were forced to see the light after drafting guys like Douglas, JJAW, and Barnett with fixed physical limitations in the first 3 rounds consistently.  

Perhaps. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Yeah I actually agree with banner on that. If you were going to run something like Taysom Hill you just use Greg Ward and save the second round pick. I think they have more of a quarterback plan with hurts then hill who’s wide receiver/running back/quarterback and special teams. I think ward would be more likely to be used like taysom hill whereas hurts more like Lamar Jackson where he can run but he’s also going to throw more and not likely play WR like taysom hill. he definitely isn’t Playing special teams like taysom hill. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Perhaps they both were forced to see the light after drafting guys like Douglas, JJAW, and Barnett with fixed physical limitations in the first 3 rounds consistently.  

Except Howie tended to draft athletes at the skill positions before Doug arrived and Doug never drafted athletes at the skill positions before joining the Eagles. 

24 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think that Hurts has way more potential than Sudfeld.  They have had Sudfeld now for three years.  First they had Foles over him. Then the brought in McCown. I don’t think that was solely due to the wrist injury and Thorson’s god awful preseason.   I think Sudfeld is barely a third stringer and the whole, he wants to start was kind speak that teams sometimes do. (He lines up correctly.)  The presser was awful but I think they were being very careful with current players’ egos.  They couldn’t say to Wentz: statistically you are going to get injured and miss time; and the couldn’t say to Sudfeld:   You were inactive in our playoff game for a reason. We have no confidence in you as a starting QB. 

While I agree, you don't have to not say those things claiming you're going to some QB factory.

If this guy ISN'T ready to be the 2 next year that blows out the whole notion of it being a cost effective backup on the team as they'll still have to bring in a vet.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah I actually agree with banner on that. If you were going to run something like Taysom Hill you just use Greg Ward and save the second round pick. I think they have more of a quarterback plan with hurts then hill who’s wide receiver/running back/quarterback and special teams. I think ward would be more likely to be used like taysom hill whereas hurts more like Lamar Jackson where he can run but he’s also going to throw more and not likely play WR like taysom hill. he definitely isn’t Playing special teams like taysom hill. 

I think he’s a QB who can do Taysom Hill things. 

4 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

Ok, so here's the deal since people started to turn this into a contentious thing here.

 

I wear my heart on my sleeve. I post my raw emotions, I post my thoughts. Sometimes they'll be analytical. Sometimes they'll be just me venting my raw frustrations. I'm passionate, I like to rant. That's my style. I happen to really dislike this draft and much of what they've done this offseason. I've explained why in great depth several times. That's how I feel. I'm always going to give my honest opinions positive or negative. I don't participate in groupthink. I'll stand by my opinions on something whether I'm in the majority, like I am with the Jalen Hurts move. Or if I'm the only person in the world who feels some way about a move. People disingenuously started to front about that being a bunch of different things that simply untrue and factually incorrect. I didn't "literally" complain about the same thing in every post, as we discussed things I'd like the Eagles to do and positions I'd like them to target in free agency. My cynicism for this draft is bothering people. That's your right. However, that, I can't help you with. Don't tell me how or what to post. All I can suggest is if you don't like reading it, there is an ignore option and you're more than welcome to use it if you're that thin skinned. Enjoy your night.

Just place your mouse over the user profile and the ignore option will be at the bottom of the pop-up.  Enjoy!