Just now, RLC said:

Other than Okudah/Young, this was not a very good EDGE/CB class and we smartfully didn't try to force it.
At first glance, that might be the case again in 2021 but there's lots of time for that to change. We have developmental EDGEs on the roster, but not CBs.

It’s very early.  Some RS sophomore could have 18 sacks and 30 TFL before we know it.  
 

Anyone who is hyped now and goes wire to wire as a top prospect will be out of range anyway.

1 hour ago, Han Solo said:

We are in position to just bring waves of speed to throw at the defense.

Reagor is going to be our Tyreek.

One of Hightower and Watkins is going to be our McLaurin.

Imagine lining up 4 wide with Jackson, Reagor, Watkins and Hightower.  They all run deep and we slip Sanders out of the backfield.

If we can just get the defense to respect the deep ball, then the middle opens up for Ertz, Goedert and Sanders to exploit linebackers at will.

Disagree...he's the Alshon/#1 replacement.  Unless JJAW pans out and we need someone to run curls/in's/out's with excellent boxing out skills.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Then you let Barnett go after this year...

We are also letting Graham go after this year.  If we don’t trade for Yannick, we have to keep one.  
 

Barnett at 25 years old and $10.5m next year >>> Graham at 33 and $18m.

 

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I wouldn’t be.  But we can’t afford to have both Barnett and Yannick on the roster in 2021.  That’s not an option. 

It’s not. A move for Yannick has to be done before the decision on Barnett’s 5th year option has to be made. Then you go into camp (obviously that’s not going to be normal this year) and wait for a team desperate for a 4-3 D-end to come calling for Barnett. 
 

I think realistically you give up a 2021 2nd and 2022 conditional day 3 pick for Yannick. Then hopefully another team is interested in Barnett and you’d probably get about a 4th for him. That’s just my best guess. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ive been wondering this morning with all these WRs if we see us going back to a rotation at WR like Chip used to do. Didnt like it much back then because I dont think we had enough good ones, but man, right now, Id hate to see any of these deep threats wasting away on our bench. I want them all to play.

I was just about to post this vid before I saw your post and responded. It kinda adds to this discussion now when figuring where all these guys are going to play. Whos X, who is Z, who is Y. Duffy notes that at the shrine game Hightower was excellent in the red zone, and getting off press coverage. Also doesnt really see him as a jet sweep guy, or screen guy much. Seems like a candidate to learn X. 

 

Like the idea of Hightower as an X.  I think his frame might support some strengthening and weight gain without a loss of speed.  Good height. 
 

i,like the idea of platooning the WRs.  Rest for DJax and he really is the only vet likely to make the team. I expect to see a lot more motion in the offense that will make for easier target identification on reads. 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Projected 2020 Depth Chart – Training Camp

Offense (25)
QB(3): Wentz, Hurts, Sudfeld,
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Killins/???, Holyfield/Warren
TE(3): Ertz, Goedert, Perkins/Togiai
WR(6): Reagor, Jackson, Arcega-Whiteside, Ward, Hightower/Watkins, Goodwin
OL(9): Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson
Pryor, Herbig/Opeta/Juriga, Mailata, Driscoll, Tega Wanogho

Defense (25)
DE(5): Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Avery, Miller/Ostman/Toohill
DT(5): Cox, Jackson, Hargrave, Ridgeway, Rush/Williams
ILB(2): Edwards, Riley
OLB(4): Gerry, Taylor, Brown/Singleton/Bradley/Olson
S(4): McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace
CB(5): Slay, Robey-Coleman, Jones/Douglas, Maddox, Leblanc

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Johnston
LS: Lovato

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Deeper than last year, albeit less top-heavy (Peters, Bradham, Jenkins)

I think Goodwin is in the / category, but I’d prefer to go 7 WRs and 4 DTs or one less LB. We rely on S/LB hybrids like Mills/Parks that it might not be necessary to carry so many LBs. That might require Taylor not being a year away though.  

I like the Hurts pick. A cheap back-up that gives the team versatility in resigning current players and adding free agents. A potential great starting quarterback. I'm not a talent evaluator but looking at his record 38 wins 4 losses,  and stats, 2019 - 3rd in passer rating, 7th in all of ncaa in comp percentage what is considered his weakness. 2nd in qb rushing yards , way above any top tier qb.  2nd place in Heisman voting. That's pretty good. They are also getting an interim gadget play, quarterback that can get on-field experience during his first year. I think he could be the next Donovan Mcnabb,  without the headcase issues.  When I look at all the moves the Eagles made in the later rounds I even like the pick more. I think this was a great draft. I hope the Eagles draft like this for the foreseeable future.

53 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This is a good question. Don and I were talking about this yesterday during the draft about  Winston and if you could fix him. 

Winston can't be fixed until he matures.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You think? What moves make you think that?

The Saints have been all in for the most part since 2014.  They got smarter after the Byrd signing not panning out that year.  Brees has been pretty shot for at least the past 3 years.  His arm can't last 16 games.  Their most successful season was mostly predicated on feeding Ingram/Kamara and limiting his arm usage.  By the time week 12 comes around you can see the fatigue he has. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Winston can't be fixed until he matures.

Kind felt the same way. You’d have to hope this whole experience humbled him to the point where he’s more dedicated. Not sure if that’ll happen. 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’ve only watched Hurts a little bit during the televised college playoff matchups over the past few years, but I was impressed at his progress as a QB.  The first time I saw him with Alabama he was a running QB but had limited ability to throw the ball effectively.  The second time I saw him was when he replaced Tua; I thought for sure they were toast in that game based on what I saw the first time.  To my surprise, he came in, rallied the team to a big win — and threw the ball quite well I thought

Last season with Oklahoma I saw him in a couple of games.  Say what you will; Lincoln Riley got comparable production out of Hurts that he got from Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield.  Of course Hurts was never projected to be a #1 overall pick like those guys, but he performed better with the Sooners than I expected.  I think it says a lot for his makeup and coachability 

Important to remember that he's still only 21 as well. Combine that with how he has continually progressed as a passer and there's plenty of room for optimism for his future. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Like the idea of Hightower as an X.  I think his frame might support some strengthening and weight gain without a loss of speed.  Good height. 
 

i,like the idea of platooning the WRs.  Rest for DJax and he really is the only vet likely to make the team. I expect to see a lot more motion in the offense that will make for easier target identification on reads. 

Hightower already bulked up for the combine (he was 17 pounds above his listed weight). I’m not sure how much more weight he can gain and maintain his speed. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think Goodwin is in the / category, but I’d prefer to go 7 WRs and 4 DTs or one less LB. We rely on S/LB hybrids like Mills/Parks that it might not be necessary to carry so many LBs. That might require Taylor not being a year away though.  

LBs/Ss are the core of the ST unit. Our WRs are so small that I don't see any of them being great gunners. Or at least, who is making a tackle in open space?

I think Taylor is a non-factor on defense in 2020. He might be able to start in 2021.

18 minutes ago, RLC said:

Other than Okudah/Young, this was not a very good EDGE/CB class and we smartfully didn't try to force it.
At first glance, that might be the case again in 2021 but there's lots of time for that to change. We have developmental EDGEs on the roster, but not CBs.

Henderson was really good IMO.  After that there was lots to like, but with serious flaws.  Everyone is droning about the Diggs pick by the Turds, he was the 10th best CB in the class IMO.

41 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

My suspicion is we have a lead back, Sanders.  We have a change of pace back for the Sproles carries, Scott.   We have a power back, Warren.   All three can run between the tackles.  All three can catch.   Sanders and Scott can run RB and WR routes.  Warren can run TE/FB routes.   I think they likely carry a fourth. Could be Holyfield.  Could be Killins.  Could be someone signed later.  May bring back Corey.  May use that fourth spot to carry a third TE or another WR.  Maybe an extra OL.  Back of the roster discussions we have every summer. 

It's a shame he got derailed with injuries after such a good rookie season where he really contributed to our SB win.  Would like to see him get another shot and maybe he has to do what he did his rookie year as an UDFA to make the team, which means playing STs and earning his opportunities on O.  He was good on STs and he's proven a good blocker in pass pro.  It all depends on his mindset and health, but if both are good to go then I'd be fine seeing him dress on game days.

 

6 minutes ago, greggpall said:

I like the Hurts pick. A cheap back-up that gives the team versatility in resigning current players and adding free agents. A potential great starting quarterback. I'm not a talent evaluator but looking at his record 38 wins 4 losses,  and stats, 2019 - 3rd in passer rating, 7th in all of ncaa in comp percentage what is considered his weakness. 2nd in qb rushing yards , way above any top tier qb.  2nd place in Heisman voting. That's pretty good. They are also getting an interim gadget play, quarterback that can get on-field experience during his first year. I think he could be the next Donovan Mcnabb,  without the headcase issues.  When I look at all the moves the Eagles made in the later rounds I even like the pick more. I think this was a great draft. I hope the Eagles draft like this for the foreseeable future.

It Hurts had anywhere close to the same level of talent that McNabb had he wouldn’t have lasted until pick 53, never would have been forced to transfer so he could play, and would have been in the draft last year. 
 

Hurts could very well end up having a decent career but he’s no franchise QB. 

16 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Disagree...he's the Alshon/#1 replacement.  Unless JJAW pans out and we need someone to run curls/in's/out's with excellent boxing out skills.

No way Reagor is the heir to Desean at the Z

hightower might be groomed at X

25 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Even though Prince Tega was drafted well after Driscoll I see him as the better prospect. Prince kinda flops his hands out there where they can be used to turn him. Too often he flops rather than punches. Hands are too low, also, starting down at the bottom of the numbers, should be top of the numbers. When they're low the defender can knock your arm down and just blow by that shoulder. Prince does that all the time. To me, that's bad coaching. He should be a little lower in his set with the knuckles almost to pad level. Take a look. He's the LT. His hands are at his waist. He's also got his weight back on his heels. On this play he still made the block but really made it hard on himself. It was his athleticism that saved him but that won't be enough at the next level. Fortunately, he'll get good coaching. The best.

Curious of your evaluation for Driscoll at C.  

I think Tega dropped due to the medical.  I had him in Round 3, and wouldn't have been surprised if he went into the end of Round 2.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

LBs/Ss are the core of the ST unit. Our WRs are so small that I don't see any of them being great gunners. Or at least, who is making a tackle in open space?

I think Taylor is a non-factor on defense in 2020. He might be able to start in 2021.

Taylor is really raw; I worry about that pick.  If they hit on him, though, it’s the boom side of boom/bust for sure 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Aside from the Hurts fiasco, Wallace is the only pick that I need someone to convince me will be OK.

I'm not familiar enough with him, but every report cites coverage as a problem. 

I don't care that Schwartz likes one safety getting his nose into it at the LOS.  Jenkins (and we can admit this now that he's gone) has been responsible for SO many deep 6 coverage nightmares in recent years. 

Look at the draft this year.  Look at what we did.  Look at what KC is.  Look at what everyone else did.  Every DB on the field should excel in coverage.

We don't blitz much.  Our DL stops the run.  Nothing should matter more in our safeties than pass coverage.

What can we reasonably expect from Wallace on that front?

Initially a S that is good against the run, really good covering TEs and RBs.  Good at covering the slot and needs some work playing centerfield in some defenses but less so in the Eagles D.  In the three S sets, I expect he switches with McLeod and plays deep while Rodney takes the mid level position.   Interned with Troy Vincent.  Roomed with Dawk Jr.  Won’t start this year absent injury to McLeod, but we will see him on the field

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

We are also letting Graham go after this year.  If we don’t trade for Yannick, we have to keep one.  
 

Barnett at 25 years old and $10.5m next year >>> Graham at 33 and $18m.

 

I'll take Graham unless he completely falls off a cliff this year.  Barnett is a walking penalty machine and just doesn't seem to see the game well.  He's had some moments but he seems to be a liability.

Let's dive into the future at DE for a second:

Fact 1: There is zero chance Graham and Barnett are allowed to count a total of $28.5m against the cap in 2021.

Assertion 1: I think it is unlikely Graham takes a pay cut substantial enough to make Graham/Barnett a viable option as the starting DE's in 2021.

Possibility 1: Graham may agree to a modest pay cut.  But this would only be enough for the Eagles to side with sentimentality/proven production so that they keep Graham while declining the option of Barnett.

Possibility 2: Graham won't take enough of a pay cut, Barnett stays on his $10.5m option and Graham is gone in 2021.

Possibility 3: Eagles trade for Yannick and extend him.  That means BOTH Graham and Barnett's contracts MUST be off the books for 2021.

 

Reasonable assumption/conclusion 1: The Eagles are going to have one veteran DE with starting experience in 2021.  The other spot will need to be entrusted to the competition between Sweat/Miller/Toohill and a high 2021 draft pick.  

Reasonable assumption/conclusion 2: Expect better than even odds that our 2021 first round pick is a DE.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

I'll take Graham unless he completely falls off a cliff this year.  Barnett is a walking penalty machine and just doesn't seem to see the game well.  He's had some moments but he seems to be a liability.

Barnett is the easy choice due to age alone and its not as if BGs production hasn’t fallen off 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

LBs/Ss are the core of the ST unit. Our WRs are so small that I don't see any of them being great gunners. Or at least, who is making a tackle in open space?

I think Taylor is a non-factor on defense in 2020. He might be able to start in 2021.

He's a bit of a mystery at this point.  No question he's a fast athletic specimen, but since he's really only played 2 seasons of high level competitive football the question is can he really actually play the position.  I've seen 2 different reports concerning him on this.  One said he's raw and needs to better read the game while the other said he's quick to diagnose plays.  So which is it?  With his raw athleticism he certainly has upside, but is he good or bad at reading the play at this point and if the latter is he coachable enough to learn and improve?

 

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