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13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It's important to maintain perspective on this recent speed kick, which I have demanded for years.

Reagor was a real investment in it.

Goodwin/Watkins/Hightower, combined, cost them 41.2 draft points...that's a late 4th round pick.  Goodwin is 29 and had less than 200 yards in 2019 and less than 400 in 2018.  Watkins and Hightower have hand, route-running, and competition issues.

Do I think it was a really slick move getting 3 blazing fast lottery tickets out of such minimal draft capital?  Absolutely.  But if all 3 fail, this better not be an opportunity for the pendulum to swing back to "see, we went hard after speed and that got us nowhere."  The offense isn't stacked and isn't blazing fast until they actually coach these guys up, which may be an uphill battle.

That good thing is we really just need Reagor and one of Goodwin/Watkins/Hightower to hit. Then next year we can invest another high pick at the position. 

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I'm figuring it's now at about 8800 hours and counting. (Probably 53 weeks rather than 52 because of the way the calendar rotates.)

I've avoided this place for two days because I'm sure the barrage of negativity over that time period has been so overwhelming. I prefer to remain optimistic about this team and give the powers-that-be the benefit of the doubt that I believe they earned by winning a Super Bowl just two short years ago. I also think that the team actually needed another quarterback. To me, Nate Sudfeld has always looked to me to be a Peter Principle player. He was a great practice squad addition, and a pretty decent third quarterback. But as he has risen in the ranks, he's always seemed a bit short of the mark as the primary backup. I don't think you can "win when it matters" with him, and I think that's kind of damning. 

Let me guess...Hurts was "always available" in the fourth and fifth rounds of every mock draft that was created in the months prior to the draft. Let's ignore the fact that the Patriots have admitted that they intended to pick a quarterback in this draft yet didn't do so. They had multiple shots at Eason, Morgan, and Fromm (the quarterbacks chosen in the fourth and fifth rounds) so let's guess who they might have actually been targeting. I wonder who that could have been. It might have been Jordan Love, I suppose. But it also might very well have been a certain former Alabama and Oklahoma quarterback who was chosen in the second round on Friday night.

And has anyone mentioned the Giants decision to draft Jeff Hostetler with the 59th pick of the '84 draft, five years after making Phil Simms their franchise quarterback selection? Was that moronic, or was it a marvelous stroke of good planning? Maybe the Giants thought "hmmm...we really like Phil Simms and we have no intention of replacing him, but bygolly, we think this Hostetler kid has a bright future in this league...maybe we can develop him and maybe use him to advantage if he's ever needed...like maybe during a Super Bowl run some time in the future." Nah, probably not. They were probably just being stupid too, ignoring the needs that a three win time at the time had.

At any rate, I enjoy spending my time participating in this thread so I'll cautiously resume activities, hoping that the outrage has died down some. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Listen, Nate Davis gave the Eagles a D-.  If you can't take his opinion to the bank and make a deposit, then there's nothing that anyone can say to you.  

Who the hell is Nate Davis and what makes him an expert on football player analysis?

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Early 53-man (it's still 53, right?).  This is not a prediction, but a framework for discussion.  Basically made room for the 10 draft picks.  There obviously will be post-draft FA signings.

Factory Parts (3)  Wentz, Hurts, Sudfeld  
RB (4)  Sanders, Scott, Warren, Killins 
WR  (6)  Jackson, Reagor, JJAW, Ward, Goodwin, Hightower or Watkins (other on PS) (Jeffery on PUP)
TE (3)  Ertz, Goedert, Perkins
OL (9)  Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Pryor, Mailata, Driscoll, Herbig (Wanagho on IR with mystery injury)          
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DE (5)  Graham, Barnett, Sweat, Avery, Miller (Hall on PUP, Toohill on PS)
DT (5)  Cox, Hargrave, Jackson, Ridgeway, Hector
LB (5)  Gerry, Brown, Edwards, Taylor, Bradley
CB (6)  Slay, Maddox, Jones, Robey-Coleman, LeBlanc, Douglas    
S (4) McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace
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ST (3) Elliott, Johnston, Lovato

Didn’t they increase the roster by two or was it just the game day roster.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Didn’t they increase the roster by two or was it just the game day roster.

I believe it was PS got two more spots 

22 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm figuring it's now at about 8800 hours and counting. (Probably 53 weeks rather than 52 because of the way the calendar rotates.)

I've avoided this place for two days because I'm sure the barrage of negativity over that time period has been so overwhelming. I prefer to remain optimistic about this team and give the powers-that-be the benefit of the doubt that I believe they earned by winning a Super Bowl just two short years ago. I also think that the team actually needed another quarterback. To me, Nate Sudfeld has always looked to me to be a Peter Principle player. He was a great practice squad addition, and a pretty decent third quarterback. But as he has risen in the ranks, he's always seemed a bit short of the mark as the primary backup. I don't think you can "win when it matters" with him, and I think that's kind of damning. 

Let me guess...Hurts was "always available" in the fourth and fifth rounds of every mock draft that was created in the months prior to the draft. Let's ignore the fact that the Patriots have admitted that they intended to pick a quarterback in this draft yet didn't do so. They had multiple shots at Eason, Morgan, and Fromm (the quarterbacks chosen in the fourth and fifth rounds) so let's guess who they might have actually been targeting. I wonder who that could have been. It might have been Jordan Love, I suppose. But it also might very well have been a certain former Alabama and Oklahoma quarterback who was chosen in the second round on Friday night.

And has anyone mentioned the Giants decision to draft Jeff Hostetler with the 59th pick of the '84 draft, five years after making Phil Simms their franchise quarterback selection? Was that moronic, or was it a marvelous stroke of good planning? Maybe the Giants thought "hmmm...we really like Phil Simms and we have no intention of replacing him, but bygolly, we think this Hostetler kid has a bright future in this league...maybe we can develop him and maybe use him to advantage if he's ever needed...like maybe during a Super Bowl run some time in the future." Nah, probably not. They were probably just being stupid too, ignoring the needs that a three win time at the time had.

At any rate, I enjoy spending my time participating in this thread so I'll cautiously resume activities, hoping that the outrage has died down some. 

I mentioned Hostetler a while back in response to somebody quoting the Tuns, "if you have two quarterbacks you have no quarterbacks.” Does that count?

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Didn’t they increase the roster by two or was it just the game day roster.

I think that'll start in 2021.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Early 53-man (it's still 53, right?).  This is not a prediction, but a framework for discussion.  Basically made room for the 10 draft picks.  There obviously will be post-draft FA signings.

Factory Parts (3)  Wentz, Hurts, Sudfeld  
RB (4)  Sanders, Scott, Warren, Killins 
WR  (6)  Jackson, Reagor, JJAW, Ward, Goodwin, Hightower or Watkins (other on PS) (Jeffery on PUP)
TE (3)  Ertz, Goedert, Perkins
OL (9)  Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Pryor, Mailata, Driscoll, Herbig (Wanagho on IR with mystery injury)          
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DE (5)  Graham, Barnett, Sweat, Avery, Miller (Hall on PUP, Toohill on PS)
DT (5)  Cox, Hargrave, Jackson, Ridgeway, Hector
LB (5)  Gerry, Brown, Edwards, Taylor, Bradley
CB (6)  Slay, Maddox, Jones, Robey-Coleman, LeBlanc, Douglas    
S (4) McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace
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ST (3) Elliott, Johnston, Lovato

 It’s going to be really difficult to try and project the 53 man roster because I’m positive there will be a shortened TC and probably fewer PS games. 
 

I’d want to add another RB, LB, WR, and pass rusher. 

57 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

That good thing is we really just need Reagor and one of Goodwin/Watkins/Hightower to hit. Then next year we can invest another high pick at the position. 

Next year the priority will be DE. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Well if my intent was to change people’s arguments I sure as hell wouldn’t try and learn from a guy like you because that is exactly what you’re doing and you’re not very good at it. 
 

Where did I say I wanted a Demarco Murray level signing? I just want them to bring in a cheap proven vet to at least compete with a bunch of rookie UDFAs. Just like they did with Blount who happened to help win the Eagles a Super Bowl. 

My thinking in general has always been if there’s somebody out there Howie believes can help the team (on field or competition wise) or gives the eagles something they don’t currently have and it’s not going to cost you much/little guaranteed money then by all means you should go and add them. If little guaranteed money/none you can always just cut them in TC.  

 For instance, Everson Griffen is out there in agency (Sole purpose of this is hypothetical not saying this happens where he gets no guarantee money). If the Eagles think to themselves well we can bring him in and he’s going to give us  some pass rush that we could not get otherwise and he’s not gonna cost us much in a low guaranteed contract then by all means bring him in. I have no problem with that. Same thing with Prince amukamara. Same thing with the running back position. 

now I don’t know if there’s anybody out there the Eagles believe could be that guy. Or that’s going to come cheap with a little guaranteed money. I kind of think Griffen is probably going to get some guaranteed money from some team that needs a pass rusher, i was just using him as a hypothetical. 
 

 

44 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm figuring it's now at about 8800 hours and counting. (Probably 53 weeks rather than 52 because of the way the calendar rotates.)

I've avoided this place for two days because I'm sure the barrage of negativity over that time period has been so overwhelming. I prefer to remain optimistic about this team and give the powers-that-be the benefit of the doubt that I believe they earned by winning a Super Bowl just two short years ago. I also think that the team actually needed another quarterback. To me, Nate Sudfeld has always looked to me to be a Peter Principle player. He was a great practice squad addition, and a pretty decent third quarterback. But as he has risen in the ranks, he's always seemed a bit short of the mark as the primary backup. I don't think you can "win when it matters" with him, and I think that's kind of damning. 

Let me guess...Hurts was "always available" in the fourth and fifth rounds of every mock draft that was created in the months prior to the draft. Let's ignore the fact that the Patriots have admitted that they intended to pick a quarterback in this draft yet didn't do so. They had multiple shots at Eason, Morgan, and Fromm (the quarterbacks chosen in the fourth and fifth rounds) so let's guess who they might have actually been targeting. I wonder who that could have been. It might have been Jordan Love, I suppose. But it also might very well have been a certain former Alabama and Oklahoma quarterback who was chosen in the second round on Friday night.

And has anyone mentioned the Giants decision to draft Jeff Hostetler with the 59th pick of the '84 draft, five years after making Phil Simms their franchise quarterback selection? Was that moronic, or was it a marvelous stroke of good planning? Maybe the Giants thought "hmmm...we really like Phil Simms and we have no intention of replacing him, but bygolly, we think this Hostetler kid has a bright future in this league...maybe we can develop him and maybe use him to advantage if he's ever needed...like maybe during a Super Bowl run some time in the future." Nah, probably not. They were probably just being stupid too, ignoring the needs that a three win time at the time had.

At any rate, I enjoy spending my time participating in this thread so I'll cautiously resume activities, hoping that the outrage has died down some. 

There’s no doubt in my mind that Hurts would have been drafted shortly after the Eagles pick. We’ll see. I get the reasoning behind it but it’s still frustrating since the Eagles could have used another WR, DE, LB, S, or even a RB at that spot. 

47 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm figuring it's now at about 8800 hours and counting. (Probably 53 weeks rather than 52 because of the way the calendar rotates.)

I've avoided this place for two days because I'm sure the barrage of negativity over that time period has been so overwhelming. I prefer to remain optimistic about this team and give the powers-that-be the benefit of the doubt that I believe they earned by winning a Super Bowl just two short years ago. I also think that the team actually needed another quarterback. To me, Nate Sudfeld has always looked to me to be a Peter Principle player. He was a great practice squad addition, and a pretty decent third quarterback. But as he has risen in the ranks, he's always seemed a bit short of the mark as the primary backup. I don't think you can "win when it matters" with him, and I think that's kind of damning. 

Let me guess...Hurts was "always available" in the fourth and fifth rounds of every mock draft that was created in the months prior to the draft. Let's ignore the fact that the Patriots have admitted that they intended to pick a quarterback in this draft yet didn't do so. They had multiple shots at Eason, Morgan, and Fromm (the quarterbacks chosen in the fourth and fifth rounds) so let's guess who they might have actually been targeting. I wonder who that could have been. It might have been Jordan Love, I suppose. But it also might very well have been a certain former Alabama and Oklahoma quarterback who was chosen in the second round on Friday night.

And has anyone mentioned the Giants decision to draft Jeff Hostetler with the 59th pick of the '84 draft, five years after making Phil Simms their franchise quarterback selection? Was that moronic, or was it a marvelous stroke of good planning? Maybe the Giants thought "hmmm...we really like Phil Simms and we have no intention of replacing him, but bygolly, we think this Hostetler kid has a bright future in this league...maybe we can develop him and maybe use him to advantage if he's ever needed...like maybe during a Super Bowl run some time in the future." Nah, probably not. They were probably just being stupid too, ignoring the needs that a three win time at the time had.

At any rate, I enjoy spending my time participating in this thread so I'll cautiously resume activities, hoping that the outrage has died down some. 

You,would be surprised at how many of us have come to understand the reasoning and economics of the pick, although each in our own way.  But yes, you missed the TATErs, especially one moron, that ranted. 

Love the potential for STs improvement in this draft.  Coverage should be awesome. 

Seems universally the pick most questioned is Bradley. Here and the beat reporters. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

My thinking in general has always been if there’s somebody out there Howie believes can help the team (on field or competition wise) or gives the eagles something they don’t currently have and it’s not going to cost you much/little guaranteed money then by all means you should go and add them. If little guaranteed money/none you can always just cut them in TC.  

 For instance, Everson Griffen is out there in agency (Sole purpose of this is hypothetical not saying this happens where he gets no guarantee money). If the Eagles think to themselves well we can bring him in and he’s going to give us  some pass rush that we could not get otherwise and he’s not gonna cost us much in a low guaranteed contract then by all means bring him in. I have no problem with that. Same thing with Prince amukamara. Same thing with the running back position. 

now I don’t know if there’s anybody out there the Eagles believe could be that guy. Or that’s going to come cheap with a little guaranteed money. I kind of think Griffen is probably going to get some guaranteed money from some team that needs a pass rusher, i was just using him as a hypothetical. 
 

 

I’m just hesitant to go into training camp  (which probably gets shortened) with all these unknowns as back-ups. At least bring in some vets to push them and see how they measure up. 

My crack at 53...what I want, not what I think we'll get:

QB (3): Wentz/Sudfeld/Hurts.  Yup, with the short offseason, Sudfeld will be the first under center if Wentz is injured. 

RB (4): Sanders/Scott/Killins/???Addition???

WR (6): Jackson/Reagor/Goodwin/Watkins/Hightower/JJAW.  Sorry, Ward has a lot of heart, helped us a bunch last year...but he's been cut 6 times and never got a phone call from anyone besides the Philadelphia Eagles or San Antonio Commanders for a reason.  I want to keep all the fast guys.  Moorehead has his work cut out for him getting Watkins and Hightower roster-able in a short offseason.  But get it done.

TE (3): Ertz/Goedert/Perkins

OT (4): Dillard/Johnson/Mailata/Driscoll.  Prince is a rookie IR job if there ever was one.

OG (4): Brooks/Seumalo/Pryor/Herbig

OC (1): Kelce

DE (5): Graham/Barnett/Sweat/Avery/Toohill.  Toohill feels like a PS candidate, but Ostman was all hype and is now coming off an ACL.  They nearly cut Miller last year.  Younger potential in Toohill edges Miller, who might be slightly more refined at this point.  Miller probably makes it to the PS and makes it back to the roster after a DL gets banged up.

DT (5): Cox/Hargrave/Jackson/Ridgeway/Hector.  I wanted to keep 4, but rest for an aging Cox and the widespread injuries at this position push them to keep 5.  They seem to have an affinity to Hector.

LB (5): Gerry/Brown/Edwards/Taylor/Bradley

CB (6): Slay/Jones/Maddox/LeBlanc/NRC/camp battle winner from the large field.   Douglas will be released if not traded.

S (4): McLeod/Mills/Wallace/Parks

ST (3) Elliott, Johnston, Lovato

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m just hesitant to go into training camp  (which probably gets shortened) with all these unknowns as back-ups. At least bring in some vets to push them and see how they measure up. 

I understand where you’re coming from with the shortened off-season because there’s going to be no mini camps and OTAs. I think it’s one of the reasons they brought sudfeld back was because he has three years of knowledge of the offense.  However I think it mccown was healthy and wanted to play still I think sudfeld would be gone. (sorry for the tangent)

The problem is I’m not so sure any of those guys out there the Eagles believe have anything left (Rb) or are going to get them cheap enough with no guarantee money where they can just take the chance and cut him and not have a hit against the cap In someway. Not sure for instance if you want to guarantee someone like hyde 2 million dollars to be a 3rd string running back If it’s worth it. Frankly I’m surprised they didn’t deal douglas (granted might not have found any takers) who’s going to be the 5/6th corner and is counting as 2.3 mil against the cap and they could save 2.1 mil by dealing him (you have maddox, jones and can always move mills back and have wallace/parks play the other safety role) 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I understand where you’re coming from with the shortened off-season because there’s going to be no mini camps and OTAs. I think it’s one of the reasons they brought sudfeld back was because he has three years of knowledge of the offense.  However I think it mccown was healthy and wanted to play still I think sudfeld would be gone. (sorry for the tangent)

The problem is I’m not so sure any of those guys out there the Eagles a believe have anything left or are going to get them cheap enough with no guarantee money where they can just take the chance and cut him and not have a hit against her In someway. Because they need as much rollover going into 2021 as they can get. Not sure for instance if you have to guarantee someone like hyde 2 million dollars to be a 3rd string running back it’s worth it. Frankly I’m surprised they didn’t deal douglas who’s going to be the 5/6th corner and is counting as 2.3 mil against the cap and they could save 2.1 mil by dealing him. 

I’m just looking back into 2017 where our depth is ultimately what got the Super Bowl ring. Blount, Long, C. Graham, and Torrey Smith were all inexpensive role players brought in that had a huge impact. 
 

And I’m sure they’d like to trade Douglas but why would anyone else want him? 

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m just looking back into 2017 where our depth is ultimately what got the Super Bowl ring. Blount, Long, C. Graham, and Torrey Smith were all inexpensive role players brought in that had a huge impact. 
 

And I’m sure they’d like to trade Douglas but why would anyone else want him? 

I got you. If they could get some cheap veterans with little guaranteed money to compete and see what happens I’m all for it. 

it’s a good point. I just thought someone would be willing to take a chance Cause you basically could cut him if he sucked and it’s really no dead money. I frankly think he’d be better in a different scheme then we run (not that he’d be good just more upside in a different one)

Interestingly, the Eagles have more players from Stanford than any other school, both at the moment and potentially for the 53.

Ertz/JJAW/Herbig/Toohill

I actually think our depth is quite underrated.  Looking at a projected 53, there really aren't many back of the roster talents that will be 1 injury away from playing time, let alone making this team at all.  We've got top of the depth chart talent issues at DE and CB2, problems with sorting through our WRs, and a depth problem at RB.  RB might be the easiest position in the NFL to solve a depth problem.  

Vets choose jobs with easy paths to the roster.  They won't find that here.  And bringing in anyone to keep on the roster means cutting 2020 picks.

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

My crack at 53...what I want, not what I think we'll get:

QB (3): Wentz/Sudfeld/Hurts.  Yup, with the short offseason, Sudfeld will be the first under center if Wentz is injured. 

RB (4): Sanders/Scott/Killins/???Addition???

WR (6): Jackson/Reagor/Goodwin/Watkins/Hightower/JJAW.  Sorry, Ward has a lot of heart, helped us a bunch last year...but he's been cut 6 times and never got a phone call from anyone besides the Philadelphia Eagles or San Antonio Commanders for a reason.  I want to keep all the fast guys.  Moorehead has his work cut out for him getting Watkins and Hightower roster-able in a short offseason.  But get it done.

TE (3): Ertz/Goedert/Perkins

OT (4): Dillard/Johnson/Mailata/Driscoll.  Prince is a rookie IR job if there ever was one.

OG (4): Brooks/Seumalo/Pryor/Herbig

OC (1): Kelce

DE (5): Graham/Barnett/Sweat/Avery/Toohill.  Toohill feels like a PS candidate, but Ostman was all hype and is now coming off an ACL.  They nearly cut Miller last year.  Younger potential in Toohill edges Miller, who might be slightly more refined at this point.  Miller probably makes it to the PS and makes it back to the roster after a DL gets banged up.

DT (5): Cox/Hargrave/Jackson/Ridgeway/Hector.  I wanted to keep 4, but rest for an aging Cox and the widespread injuries at this position push them to keep 5.  They seem to have an affinity to Hector.

LB (5): Gerry/Brown/Edwards/Taylor/Bradley

CB (6): Slay/Jones/Maddox/LeBlanc/NRC/camp battle winner from the large field.   Douglas will be released if not traded.

S (4): McLeod/Mills/Wallace/Parks

ST (3) Elliott, Johnston, Lovato

I think Hall makes it over Toohill who lands on the PS

13 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

There’s no doubt in my mind that Hurts would have been drafted shortly after the Eagles pick. We’ll see. I get the reasoning behind it but it’s still frustrating since the Eagles could have used another WR, DE, LB, S, or even a RB at that spot. 

you have to ask yourself this...

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round WR really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round DE really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round LB really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round S really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round RB really help us?

do you really want to put the ball in the hands of another "josh mccown" or hope it's not a "clayton thorson" you draft later on, which you end up having to cut?  do you want to rely on sudfeld, who may not be  quick enough to pick up 5 yards with his legs on a 3rd and 4th, because a defense clamped down on all the receivers -- knowing the qb isn't mobile?

i know that if reagor is sprinting 30-40 yards down the field, hurts has the arm to hit him in stride.  i know that if it's a 3rd and 4th, hurts has the legs to get that 5 yards and even fight through the contact.  hurts will give us the skillset we'd otherwise lose if wentz were to go down.

now, i am not saying hurts is equal to wentz.  wentz is far and above the better qb.  wentz would make the better reads, he'd have the more accurate passes.  but hurts would be able to give us the same dynamic play-ability which would otherwise be lost.  a defense would not be able to key in on a particular lack of physical ability which an aging veteran or later round draft pick may have.

Just now, JayEcho said:

you have to ask yourself this...

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round WR really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round DE really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round LB really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round S really help us?

if wentz were to go down...  how much would a 2nd round RB really help us?

do you really want to put the ball in the hands of another "josh mccown" or hope it's not a "clayton thorson" you draft later on, which you end up having to cut?  do you want to rely on sudfeld, who may not be  quick enough to pick up 5 yards with his legs on a 3rd and 4th, because a defense clamped down on all the receivers -- knowing the qb isn't mobile?

i know that if reagor is sprinting 30-40 yards down the field, hurts has the arm to hit him in stride.  i know that if it's a 3rd and 4th, hurts has the legs to get that 5 yards and even fight through the contact.  hurts will give us the skillset we'd otherwise lose if wentz were to go down.

now, i am not saying hurts is equal to wentz.  wentz is far and above the better qb.  wentz would make the better reads, he'd have the more accurate passes.  but hurts would be able to give us the same dynamic play-ability which would otherwise be lost.  a defense would not be able to key in on a particular lack of physical ability which an aging veteran or later round draft pick may have.

If Wentz were to go down, how much would a 2nd round rookie QB really help us?

That's pretty much the rational for why teams don't invest in their backup QBs.  

24 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I think Hall makes it over Toohill who lands on the PS

is hall going to be ready to go? He tore his acl last week of the season i believe. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I actually think our depth is actually quite underrated.  Looking at a projected 53, there really aren't many back of the roster talents that will be 1 injury away from playing time, let alone making this team at all.  We've got top of the depth chart talent issues at DE and CB2, problems with sorting through our WRs, and a depth problem at RB.  RB might be the easiest position in the NFL to solve a depth problem.  

Vets choose jobs with easy paths to the roster.  They won't find that here.  And bringing in anyone to keep on the roster means cutting 2020 picks.

I could see a veteran corner thinking they could win the no. 2 corner job. He’s competing against maddox, jones and Douglas for it. Not sure if there’s a corner out there worthy of bringing in though. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

If Wentz were to go down, how much would a 2nd round rookie QB really help us?

That's pretty much the rational for why teams don't invest in their backup QBs.  

a lot more than a 7th round / udfa / rookie qb many wanted the team to get instead of hurts.  a lot more than an aging veteran that may not be able to hit the dynamic spot position players we drafted.  a lot more than a non-mobile qb we currently have as our backup.  hurts has a lot to learn, but he'll eventually supplant sudfeld.  he has more tools than sudfeld and will eventually be able to make plays sudfeld or an aging veteran cannot.  the only player he may not be able to outduel would be a healthy wentz.

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