K'von Wallace is really embracing the culture on twitter lol this guy hasn't stopped tweeting about the team since they drafted him. I like the energy

6 minutes ago, devpool said:

K'von Wallace is really embracing the culture on twitter lol this guy hasn't stopped tweeting about the team since they drafted him. I like the energy

I honestly haven’t heard one analyst that follows the Eagles say that was a bad pick. Fran Duffy loves him. Benjamin Solak loves him. Michael kist loves him. Every podcast that covers the Eagles that I’ve listen to loves Wallace. I love that kid. He was the guy I wanted in almost every single mock draft I tried to take him. He is a good fit for this defense

Just now, schuy7 said:

I like Hurts, but I'm not convinced he's a more talented passer than Sudfeld is at the moment.

i would trade some accuracy for more dynamic play-ability.  sudfeld is not the athlete hurts is.  sudfeld cannot make the plays with his legs that hurts can.  the offense changes with sudfeld on the field.  the team loses the threat of the quarterback taking off and making a defense pay for giving them green grass.  while sudfeld may currently have the more talented arm, hurts wasn't a slouch passing the football this past year.  i believe he'd be able to hit the passes he needs to.  heck, he had to come in for tua once, hit a LOT of clutch passes, and won a national championship --  so i don't think pressure would get to him.

2 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

i would trade some accuracy for more dynamic play-ability.  sudfeld is not the athlete hurts is.  sudfeld cannot make the plays with his legs that hurts can.  the offense changes with sudfeld on the field.  the team loses the threat of the quarterback taking off and making a defense pay for giving them green grass.  while sudfeld may currently have the more talented arm, hurts wasn't a slouch passing the football this past year.  i believe he'd be able to hit the passes he needs to.  heck, he had to come in for tua once, hit a LOT of clutch passes, and won a national championship --  so i don't think pressure would get to him.

You have this backwards. Tua came in for Hurts and won the National Championship. Hurts did come in for an injured Tua the following year and helped Bama win the SEC Championship.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

You have this backwards. Tua came in for Hurts and won the National Championship. Hurts did come in for an injured Tua the following year and helped Bama win the SEC Championship.

my bad, yeah. 

hurts still came in, hit clutch passes, and helped his team win a championship (albiet not a national one).  point still stands that the pressure didn't get to him, he's able to hit passes he needs to, and be dynamic with his legs.  and that was before this past year where i think he made even better strides with his passing.

sudfeld, yes, may have the more talented arm currently...  but i'd give that up for the athleticism hurts brings.  the offense would not have to change if hurts were put in for an injured wentz.  the same plays could still be called and run.  we would not lose the threat of a quarterback eating up green grass in front of them with their legs if a defense gives it to them.

hurts gives us more than a 2nd round wr, lb, de, s, or rb could if wentz were to go down -- and i think he'd give us more than anyone currently in our qb room could other than wentz.  

43 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If Wentz were to go down, how much would a 2nd round rookie QB really help us?

That's pretty much the rational for why teams don't invest in their backup QBs.  

I still think it is the best chance we have. And that is good enough for me.

22 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

i would trade some accuracy for more dynamic play-ability.  sudfeld is not the athlete hurts is.  sudfeld cannot make the plays with his legs that hurts can.  the offense changes with sudfeld on the field.  the team loses the threat of the quarterback taking off and making a defense pay for giving them green grass.  while sudfeld may currently have the more talented arm, hurts wasn't a slouch passing the football this past year.  i believe he'd be able to hit the passes he needs to.  heck, he had to come in for tua once, hit a LOT of clutch passes, and won a national championship --  so i don't think pressure would get to him.

As a coach, who would you rather teach: The rookie with big plays, that can run it, is a gym rat, easy to talk to - or the accurate but immobile veteran that thinks he knows it all?

 

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

As a coach, who would you rather teach: The rookie with big plays, that can run it, is a gym rat, easy to talk to - or the accurate but immobile veteran that thinks he knows it all?

Arguably easier to improve on accuracy (and he did recently already) than changing your whole game.

i believe both sudfeld and hurts are pupils of the game and both would give everything they could to help the team win.

but sudfeld (through no fault of his own), has his limitations.  he's not the athlete hurts or wentz are.  he cannot be that threat to pick up that first down on his own on a consistent basis.  he won't "scare" a defense with his physical gifts.  his advantage over hurts would be a better understanding of the playbook and being able to diagnose the plays better.

but like i said, i'd give that up for doug to not have to limit his playsheet.  with hurts, he could make the same calls he would with carson -- knowing hurts has the same athletic talent wentz does.

29 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

but sudfeld (through no fault of his own), has his limitations.  he's not the athlete hurts or wentz are

I don't actually think there's a lot of difference in terms of athleticism between Wentz and Sudfeld. I think Sudfeld has shown he's got the ability to extend plays with his feet. 

Hurts is an entirely different prospect in terms of that athleticism. 

Apparently we've signed another WR? Well a QB who we've put out that he's going to be a WR...

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Apparently we've signed another WR? Well a QB who we've put out that he's going to be a WR...

PS guy, if you ask me.

Just now, Infam said:

PS guy, if you ask me.

Oh I'm sure of that yeah. 

Don't be surprised if Reagor, Taylor and Wallace all will be really good starters for us. And then one of the best backups in the NFL? Sign me up.

3 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Next year the priority will be DE. 

DE might be the priority but don't be surprised by another 2nd or 3rd round pick for a Quarterback. We can't be a QB factory without the QB's.

 

38 minutes ago, Perforator said:

DE might be the priority but don't be surprised by another 2nd or 3rd round pick for a Quarterback. We can't be a QB factory without the QB's.

 

I think DE and WR are the most likely first round candidates. Unless Seumalo really breaks down, then it could become a guard.

On 4/26/2020 at 11:26 AM, eagle45 said:

I applaud your creativity.  I don't think Hurts is going to be incorporated meaningfully into the offense without Wentz leaving the field.  I look forward to being proven wrong there, because it's sure to be a circus.  

There is only one other way this pick makes any sense and it sucks

34 minutes ago, Infam said:

I think DE and WR are the most likely first round candidates. Unless Seumalo really breaks down, then it could become a guard.

You mean get injured? Because I don’t see age catching up with him yet

Just now, obedt said:

You mean get injured? Because I don’t see age catching up with him yet

Unlike the Eagles I am of the personal opinion that Seumalo is not good enough to be our starting LG and is the weakest link on our line.

But let's see how this one goes, maybe he will prove me wrong.

7 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Well if my intent was to change people’s arguments I sure as hell wouldn’t try and learn from a guy like you because that is exactly what you’re doing and you’re not very good at it. 
 

Where did I say I wanted a Demarco Murray level signing? I just want them to bring in a cheap proven vet to at least compete with a bunch of rookie UDFAs. Just like they did with Blount who happened to help win the Eagles a Super Bowl. 

Blah blah blah and nonsense how about a name?  Which vet?  Care to actually risk an opinion for once?  I doubt it. 

On 4/26/2020 at 11:43 AM, eagle45 said:

I get your drift.  I think the main reason, historically, teams do not invest in their backup QB is because they aren't winning a superbowl if their starter goes down for an extended period.  So you might as well stack up your investment into the supporting cast, not the insurance policy.

Of course, the Eagles happen to be one of the most spectacular exceptions of all time to that conventional wisdom.

Of course

 

50 minutes ago, Infam said:

I think DE and WR are the most likely first round candidates. Unless Seumalo really breaks down, then it could become a guard.

Why do you think Seumalo will really break down? He did not miss a snap last year, all 763. He and Kelce were the only OL to do that.

Just more of the same old same old bias.

42 minutes ago, Infam said:

Unlike the Eagles I am of the personal opinion that Seumalo is not good enough to be our starting LG and is the weakest link on our line.

But let's see how this one goes, maybe he will prove me wrong.

Yeah, when I watch him I think we're seeing an above average starter. I guess at worst I can be talked down to average starter, but not below that. Seumalo may seem to be the weak link in our line when we have the best guard in the nation on the other side, Lane Johnson, and Kelce. But I don't buy him being replacement level or really even close to that. 

From PFF (and this is one of those cases where their analysis matches what I saw. He was terrible against Atlanta, but very solid and dependable in the other games)

In Week 15, Seumalo got the ultimate honor, grading out so well that he was named to Pro Football Focus’s NFL Team of the Week.

LG ISAAC SEUMALO, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
The much-maligned left guard has actually been very solid over the second half of the season. The image of him getting worked over for eight pressures against the Falcons in Week 2 can be difficult to get out of your mind, but from Week 6 on, Seumalo has been the ninth-highest-graded guard in the NFL.

6 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Who the hell is Nate Davis and what makes him an expert on football player analysis?

You dont know the great Nate Davis?   He's like the Mel Kiper of USA Today. 

 

 

It was sarcasm.  None of these dudes' opinions matter.  We can focus on the negative ones if the draft infuriated us, as it did some, or focus on the positive ones if we liked it.  3 years from now, we'll know.  Everything else is cherry picking for the most part seeking out someone with the same opinion as us.

 

On that note,  it is interesting to me that when Daniel Jeremiah was asked who improved their team the most this draft, the only team he mentioned was the Eagles, specifically saying "they added a lot of juice to the team".  He didnt talk about Dallas adding CeeDee Lamb, etc. Nor Washington with Young.  But the Eagles with all the speed, something this team desperately needed on both sides of the ball.  Most of these guys won't work out, and that's the same league wide,  ut it was good to see them target that specific trait.  This team was old and slow last year, they chose not to bring in young and slow players to replace them.  It was a good choice.  Everything beyond that is really just guessing.

6 hours ago, eagle45 said:

My crack at 53...what I want, not what I think we'll get.

I agree with nearly everything here, but wanted to point out that I believe with almost 99% certainty that Driscoll is an Interior OL only in the NFL. 

For one, he was announced as a guard when the pick was made official.  Secondly, he has short arms. And third, he's fairly short as OTs go.  Ideally, I see him as the Kelce replacement, or at least in that discussion.  He needs to drop the fat, get stronger and learn how to make the protection calls.