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    I mentioned this previously on this board, and in the past years ago on the other board.   I'm not sure Howie has ever come out and said it this plainly, but Howie is telling the truth here.   

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8 minutes ago, obedt said:

A lot of my comments could justifiably be interpreted as flip-flopping on the pick. I dislike it less is a good way of putting it. 

And who cares if someone flip flops? What can be construed as being a homer could just as easily be someone changing their opinion with more information and thought, or simply being open minded. 

Opinions don’t have to be carved in stone. 

I always try to look at players and picks and philosophy from the Eagles’ perspective. It might not align with my own philosophy, but mine doesn’t matter. 

Yates confirming the comp date. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

And who cares if someone flip flops?

I've never understood the American fascination with Flip flopping. If someone changes their position due to new information...that's a good thing.

Who wants more slow WRs like JJAWs? Change tactics!

Quite the weekend, eh fellas...

I agree with this. 

2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m never afraid to risk an opinion, sunshine. 
 

I stated in multiple posts that Carlos Hyde, Devonta Freeman, Isaiah Crowell, Bilal Powell, and Lamar Miller could be possibilities. 

They are all possibilities in fact. What’s your opinion, which should we sign? 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yates confirming the comp date. 

4pm give me Amukamara and Everson Griffen.

Superbowl.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I agree with this. 

I think Hightower projects more as an X than anything else. Not sure that they necessarily project Hightower to start, just pointing that out

39 minutes ago, Gator 12 said:

I don't know if this was posted already

 

In terms of the player, i think hes going to be a very good backup/gadget player. A lot of people want to say he "cant throw" but this is extremely impressive.

Really sucks seeing so much CeeDee Lamb in his highlights though🤢

1 hour ago, Makilavelli said:

Yeah, we’d also heard so much all season how McCown was vital in helping Carson prepare every week, similar to Foles, so it’s not like he spit out his Gatorade when they called his number. "Who, me?!”

Yeah, because taking first team reps all week has no effect on performance...

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I agree with this. 

Till next year.  Then our X will be Tamarion Terry.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

4pm give me Amukamara and Everson Griffen.

Superbowl.

Why Prince over whatever's left?  We've watched that guy get torched for years.

Griffin I just don't see because of the numbers... 

3 minutes ago, obedt said:

I think Hightower projects more as an X than anything else. Not sure that they necessarily project Hightower to start, just pointing that out

Yeah.  Im sure a lot of media will call them all Z/X just cause they're not big WRs. 

I could see Reagor being X as well as Hightower.

 

5 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Why Prince over whatever's left?  We've watched that guy get torched for years.

Griffin I just don't see because of the numbers... 

I think Amukamara is the best of what's left and an improvement over what's here. 

:roll:

7 minutes ago, obedt said:

I think Hightower projects more as an X than anything else. Not sure that they necessarily project Hightower to start, just pointing that out

I don’t think Hightower is an X at all. Not physical enough. Could Reagor? Sure. But you want clean releases for him to enhance his speed and the Z faces less press coverage.  

And history suggests we want a bigger X — Alshon and JJAW. 

1 hour ago, Rhinoddd50 said:

I totally agree, but a lot of that will be due to intellectual dishonesty.

I find it pretty ironic that the Philly media will blame the Eagles for "creating controversy" with the pick, when in reality it will be them (especially the talk radio guys) who will use this topic to try and whip up a frenzy to generate clicks and listeners.

Personally I am not fully convinced using #53 on a QB was a good choice.  There is definitely a glass half empty argument to make about pick #53, or even using #21 on Reagor vs Jefferson or using #21 and #53 to trade up for Lamb.   One could even make a glass half empty argument about this entire draft class if one wanted.  Yes, the draft picks all have great speed and athleticism, which I was glad to see, but they are all also mostly later round lottery ticket types.    Howie said hope is not a strategy, but until proven otherwise, most of the Eagles draft picks are late round hopes at this point.

That doesn't mean I am entirely negative, and it doesn't mean I hate the Hurts pick, or this draft class.   I think there is a real discussion to be had about the merits and strategy behind the Eagles selections that doesn't require one to go to either extreme on the opposite ends of the spectrum.    

We both have been around long enough to know very well that the reality is that just like every other draft class we may have "Loved" or "Hated" in the past 2 decades, none of us will know the actual truth for at least 2-3 years.   Maybe even 3-4 years for some of these prospects.

cant agree with you there. Howie is a moron if he didnt know this would be the root cause of the drama. cant blame the media for once.

i will go ahead and say it - it was a wasted pick. the only intellectual dishonesty comes from people trying to rationalize the pick because they are ignoring the obvious behavioral elements to it and trying to focus on the cap savings while assuming Hurts is even a high level prospect

1 hour ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I hope you’re right but to me Josh Sweat in a best case scenario is JAG. Not seeing it with him.

I actually think Sweat is the most interesting story at DE in 2020.   Physically this guy looks like the prototype NFL DE for a Schwartz defense.    

But while he showed some promising moments last year, he has not yet consistently flashed for an entire game, let alone a season.

Is he fully healthy going into 2020?   Will he ever be?   Or will he be one of those super high ceiling guys that never fully recovers from his pre-NFL injury history?   (think Jay Ajayi)

What he does (or doesn't do) in 2020 will go a long way towards defining the Eagles needs at DE in 2021.   I think Sweat's 2020 season is as almost as important as Derek Barnett's 2020 season.    

Sweat only just turned 23.   Will Sweat got into 2021 still having looked like nothing better than a JAG?   Or could he enter 2021 as one of the more interesting young rotational DE's in the NFL?

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think Amukamara is the best of what's left and an improvement over what's here. 

I don't remember who's left.  I guess he did play well in Chi for a bit.  Whatever.  I hate what that says about Maddox and Jones.  Even though I agree he'd be an upgrade.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

"Numbers" being the amount of years he's been alive?

Heh...  No, the 8 DE's already on the roster.  Would we jettison an unknown like Avery?  Miller or Ostman before we see them develop?

I like Everson as an upgrade on Viny Curry coming in waves.  Just seems like they were always going to roll with 55-96 and 94-58 as the DEs

Can Amukamara still run? If he can, then he's a legitimate #2 CB opposite Slay. I do think they want to give Maddox/Jones the opportunity to win the job.

5 minutes ago, Rhinoddd50 said:

I actually think Sweat is the most interesting story at DE in 2020.   Physically this guy looks like the prototype NFL DE for a Schwartz defense.    

But while he showed some promising signs last year, he has not yet consistently flashed for an entire game, let alone a season.

Is he fully healthy going into 2020?   Will he ever be?   Or will he be one of those super high ceiling guys that never fully recovers from his pre-NFL injury history?   (think Jay Ajayi)

What he does (or doesn't do) in 2020 will go a long way towards defining the Eagles needs at DE in 2021.   I think Sweat's 2020 season is as almost as important as Derek Barnett's 2020 season.    

Sweat only just turned 23.   Will Sweat got into 2021 still having looked like nothing better than a JAG?   Or could he enter 2021 as one of the more interesting young rotational DE's in the NFL?

It is probably a make or brake season for Sweat. I would add a few others to the list:

Mailata, S. Jones,  Miller,  Ostman, and Arcega-Whiteside.

2 minutes ago, Rhinoddd50 said:

I actually think Sweat is the most interesting story at DE in 2020.   Physically this guy looks like the prototype NFL DE for a Schwartz defense.    

But while he showed some promising signs last year, he has not yet consistently flashed for an entire game, let alone a season.

Is he fully healthy going into 2020?   Will he ever be?   Or will he be one of those super high ceiling guys that never fully recovers from his pre-NFL injury history?   (think Jay Ajayi)

What he does (or doesn't do) in 2020 will go a long way towards defining the Eagles needs at DE in 2021.   I think Sweat's 2020 season is as almost as important as Derek Barnett's 2020 season.    

Sweat only just turned 23.   Will Sweat got into 2021 still having looked like nothing better than a JAG?   Or could he enter 2021 as one of the more interesting young rotational DE's in the NFL?

Sweat is one of those guys where I try not to get excited about but it's hard not to when you look at his physical traits and his athletic abilities.  He had a respectable season last year for a guy getting his first heavy does of playing time.  He plays the run surprisingly well.  

My only concern is his injury.  He still wears the brace which tells me he doesn't trust his knee which in turn tells me that every snap he plays, there is a tiny % of his mind that is saying don't get hurt and he is almost playing not to get hurt.  That mindset only leads to injury.  It's a 100% mental hurdle that he may never get over.  If he can get over that mindset then we will truly see what he can be.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Can Amukamara still run? If he can, then he's a legitimate #2 CB opposite Slay. I do think they want to give Maddox/Jones the opportunity to win the job.

What about Dre Kirkpatrick too? another option if Maddox/Jones dont impress

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

It is probably a make or brake season for Sweat. I would add a few others to the list:

Mailata, S. Jones,  Ostman, and Arcega-Whiteside.

I wouldn't say it's make or break for Sweat on the team but it is as a starter.  2020 he needs to prove that he's ready to take over for BG.  He needs to show us that investing in DE isn't a must and that he is next in line.

Just now, bpac55 said:

I wouldn't say it's make or break for Sweat on the team but it is as a starter.  2020 he needs to prove that he's ready to take over for BG.  He needs to show us that investing in DE isn't a must and that he is next in line.

Yeah I mean I don't think he's going to develop in to a starter here. I think he's a good DE #3 but I'm not sure he's more than that. DE is absolutely a need on this team and hopefully will be addressed. 

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