Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again even so he shouldn’t put that out there because I’m guaranteeing the Eagles were not going to be thrilled that he put it out there if they disagreed with it and knowing he’s closer access to the team then other reporters someone would pick up on that and run with it. I’m guessing the Eagles probably didn’t want someone who is close to the organization putting out there it’s going to be very tough for him to be active on gameday. Again he doesn’t have to be an insider for the Eagles to get upset at him for saying something like that when he’s part of the organization as covering the team.

Nah -- Spadaro's initial reaction showed he knew nothing, just like the rest of us.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

To me that's the only rationale I can see with the Packers drafting Jordan Love.  Can you imagine that GB drafted zero WR talent and instead traded up to develop Rodgers' replacement?  I guess it's possible Rodgers gave GB a heads-up he's only got 2-3 years left, but Rodgers has never exactly been a 'company man" IMO

Well if you believe Peter King he said Aaron Rodgers is pissed off that they drafted a quarterback

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Nah -- Spadaro's initial reaction showed he knew nothing, just like the rest of us.

Well obviously he’s not gonna know who they drafted he’s not in there watching the draft board. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t talk to people in the organization after the pick. Knowing who they’re going to draft and talking to somebody who’s a scout for the Eagles or a coach afterwards is different then knowing the draft board or who they are going to draft. Only people that knew who they were going to draft is Howie, weidl and Doug. Oh and lurie (Upper management/scouts usually in war room)

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Well if you believe Peter King he said Aaron Rodgers is pissed off that they drafted a quarterback

I guess the other possibility is the Packers have finally grown tired of his act -- the guy looked awful in how he dealt with McCarthy.  Maybe Matt Lafleur is smarter and has already sized Rodgers up

24 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

And you think those guys are clear upgrades?  Also pretty funny that you pick a UDFA to make the point that we should rely on UDFA. Well done. 

Are they clearly not upgrades?! We should just hand an UDFA rookie the backup job going into a shortened offseason? 
 

Where did I imply UDFA rookie can’t be good? The guys I’ve listed have all proven to be productive at the highest level. Not saying they still are but holy crap at least sign a cheap insurance policy. 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I guess the other possibility is the Packers have finally grown tired of his act -- the guy looked awful in how he dealt with McCarthy.  Maybe Matt Lafleur is smarter and has already sized Rodgers up

I kind of think they just look at it like a Brett Favre situation. Aaron Rodgers is 36 years old by the time he gets to 39 they probably do not think he’s going to be the player he once was because he’s had a bunch of injuries. So they got ahead of the curve and took a quarterback that they really liked the end of the first round that they can develop just like they did Aaron Rodgers behind Favre. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I kind of think they just look at it like a Brett Favre situation. Aaron Rodgers is 36 years old by the time he gets to 39 they probably do not think he’s going to be the player he onc3 was because he’s had a bunch of injuries. So they got ahead of the curve and took a quarterback that they really liked the end of the first round that they can develop just like they did Aaron Rodgers behind Favre. 

What did you think of the other NFCE drafts?  Giants took 3 OL and the rest all defensive players.  Outside of Saquon I really didn't think they were set at the skill positions

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

To me that's the only rationale I can see with the Packers drafting Jordan Love.  Can you imagine that GB drafted zero WR talent and instead traded up to develop Rodgers' replacement?  I guess it's possible Rodgers gave GB a heads-up he's only got 2-3 years left, but Rodgers has never exactly been a 'company man" IMO

I think with Rodgers telling his head coach he won't run the plays the coach called, but will run the play he (Rodgers) wants to run, his coach said fine, we'll draft a guy to replace you who will call the plays as instructed.   Just a guess, but I think a message is being sent, smart or not.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

If Lamar Chase declares... I spend my first round pick on him.

 

32 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Took me about 24 hours... 

Next morning for me.  I woke up with brilliant thoughts that must have occurred to me while I laid half awake thinking about it all night. 

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

do we want a 2021 scouting thread on the new board?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft

way to early and completely useless 2021 mock draft but an early peek at expectations. Chase and Waddle are my wr #1 and 2 and that seems to be a fairly common position. Ross at Clemson maybe third

Will the be available at #32?

 

1 hour ago, uncphillyfan said:

Great to see Austinfan and Rhino back!  Feels like home again!

Now if only Arlingtonfan and afan could return as well.

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

To me that's the only rationale I can see with the Packers drafting Jordan Love.  Can you imagine that GB drafted zero WR talent and instead traded up to develop Rodgers' replacement?  I guess it's possible Rodgers gave GB a heads-up he's only got 2-3 years left, but Rodgers has never exactly been a 'company man" IMO

I think the Packers did it for the same reason that they drafted Rodgers at about the same point in Favre's career.  They don't want to end up like the Patriots right now.  They lost their QB, and they have no succession plan.  

13 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

What did you think of the other NFCE drafts?  Giants took 3 OL and the rest all defensive players.  Outside of Saquon I really didn't think they were set at the skill positions

I sure thought the Giants didn’t butcher their draft like I thought they were going to. They got productive players. I know other people might not be as high on peart the tackle out of UConn. When you watch the rest of the team not very good. But he was a very good and he’s going to give them up upgrade of what they have at right tackle right in the future. I think he needs a year of development. However if you get Thomas And peart to be your starting tackles that’s a pretty good draft. I thought the McKinney pick was a good value pick where they got him not sure if he’s going to be good but i think he starts day one i also liked the Holmes and lemieux picks in round 4-5  Holmes is a slot corner so round 4 made sense where he went. Lemieux i think is a nice backup with upside to be a starter in time. I think they did better than they have in the past  

— on giants weapons they have Shepard, Tate, engram and slayton  that’s not bad weapons. Those aren’t bad weapons. I really like slayton last year out of Auburn. I think he got shafted because of auburns offense and he probably should’ve went higher than what he did. I do think they probably should’ve added a wide receiver as Tate is older and I think Shepherd’s coming up on the last year of his contract

besides Chase young I really didn’t think the Redskins did a bunch in that draft that I would say I loved. I like Gibson I don’t like him going in the third round but maybe he turns out to be really good so it doesn’t matter that you took them in the third round. Charles the eagles interviewed  i think he has upside but likely just a backup swing tackle  

The Ceedee lamb pick in my opinion was a luxury pick. If I were to Dallas I would’ve taken phone calls from Minnesota (maybe they did) to see if they wanted to move up to 17 to get him and got more pics. Because I think Minnesota would’ve taken lamb and giving you a plethora of pics to move up to get them. And he would’ve still stuck it to the Eagles. However during the draft I thought they were going to take diggs at 17 If lamb wasnt on the board. diggs fits exactly what they want in their corners and I was not shocked they took him in the second round. I actually predicted it. I’m of the thinking if lamb was not on that board they would’ve taken him in the first. I know people to Chaisson but I really don’t think they would’ve went that way I think they would’ve went corner and I think he would’ve been the guy that went with. I thought they got good value in Robinson and Gallimore in round three and four.

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If Lamar Chase declares... I spend my first round pick on him.

 

He will go long before the Eagles pick.  

Really good discussion regarding the impact that Wilson, Foles, and McCown had on the path towards Hurts.

Decisions are based on knows, unknowns, and biases. 

Clearly the Eagles experiences with QBs have made their bias towards the backup QB position unique in the league and a challenge for many to align with.

44 minutes ago, xBMTx said:

The defenders for the atrocious #53 pick say that a backup QB is important and points towards our Super Bowl run with Foles. What these defenders fail to realize that Hurts is a project QB will likely be a our #3QB for the next season. How does a #3 QB help us instead of drafting an impact, startable CB/WR/LB/S?

And what short sighted fans like you fail to realize is he could be our #2 QB for the next season after that, and the next season after that, and next season after that.  And each of those 4 years he will cost very little.  And each of those years Howie will have more 2nd rd picks to waste (but not on QB).

3 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

He will go long before the Eagles pick.  

I'll take Micah Parsons 🙂 ... Also long gone but would solve our ILB for next 10 years

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Really good discussion regarding the impact that Wilson, Foles, and McCown had on the path towards Hurts.

Decisions are based on knows, unknowns, and biases. 

Clearly the Eagles experiences with QBs have made their bias towards the backup QB position unique in the league and a challenge for many to align with.

Don’t know if you listen to the solak and kist podcast about their round 2 and 3 picks but so that kind of touched on what you just did.

49 minutes ago, xBMTx said:

The defenders for the atrocious #53 pick say that a backup QB is important and points towards our Super Bowl run with Foles. What these defenders fail to realize that Hurts is a project QB will likely be a our #3QB for the next season. How does a #3 QB help us instead of drafting an impact, startable CB/WR/LB/S?

I am not sure that he's 100% the #3 QB as the season goes on and I do think Doug wouldn't hesitate to use Hurts if he shows promise in the season but yeah ultimately he's the number 3 starting the season. 

26 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

To me that's the only rationale I can see with the Packers drafting Jordan Love.  Can you imagine that GB drafted zero WR talent and instead traded up to develop Rodgers' replacement?  I guess it's possible Rodgers gave GB a heads-up he's only got 2-3 years left, but Rodgers has never exactly been a 'company man" IMO

It makes sense, but as you said, Rodgers isn’t a company man, but he’s also in his mid to late 30’s now. So it makes sense for GB to start preparing. Rodgers also has a nice injury history too. 

2 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

And what short sighted fans like you fail to realize is he could be our #2 QB for the next season after that, and the next season after that, and next season after that.  And each of those 4 years he will cost very little.  And each of those years Howie will have more 2nd rd picks to waste (but not on QB).

I think the greatest value of that pick is really going to start in 2021. I think 2020 if you’re asking a lot of rookie quarterback to go out there with no OTAs and no minicamps and be the no. 2 off the bat. It’s not just hurts in 2020 i think burrow is also going to have more growing pains then he should due to the same reason but the bengals are going to suck anyway so they can live through them. the greatest value of the pick imo is year 2021, 2022. Then 2023 they have a decision of trading him to get draft capital or one last year as a backup (assuming if he’s good enough he’ll want a chance to start elsewhere and leave after year 4)

i like jalen hurts the player and he’s going to be a solid-good backup with time. I believe that cause i believed that coming into the draft. 

Really like the values of CEH and Akers. #1 RBs on good offenses will put up good stats.

2 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

It makes sense, but as you said, Rodgers isn’t a company man, but he’s also in his mid to late 30’s now. So it makes sense for GB to start preparing. Rodgers also has a nice injury history too. 

The Packers also new Aaron Rodgers was a diva and pain in the butt to begin with. heck Favre was as well by the end. he kept waffling on what he was going to do.  I just think they view it in the same light as Brett Favre situation where a young QB they liked was available to them late in the first.  So they wound up taking him in hopes that 2-3 years down the road when Rogers has declined they can just transition to Jordan love and have his growing pains for a year but then the following year take off again. 

6 hours ago, Infam said:

Unlike the Eagles I am of the personal opinion that Seumalo is not good enough to be our starting LG and is the weakest link on our line.

But let's see how this one goes, maybe he will prove me wrong.

Dillard could be the newest weakest link. That left side certainly isn’t Peters and Mathis anymore. 

I believe that Hurts, with a full season under his belt, would have given us a better chance to beat Seattle than McCown.

Also, as has been said earlier, the FO can't come out and say they are worried about Carson.  But they are and this pick (their actions) support that.

So I understand the strategy, but I am not sure that the tactic (using #53) was appropriate.