4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

@FranklinFldEBUpper

Wonder if he was able to get the word to Carson

43 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

They don’t cook at Taco Bell, they reheat.   Brought in from the factory.   You are paying some sniffling sixteen year old to heat and assemble.  

It's a brilliant process that results in some of the best food you can find anywhere in the world. 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Wonder if he was able to get the word to Carson

He did

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Nor do I. Take last year as an example. It is not unreasonable to think the Eagles were eyeing Marquise Brown, assuming they wanted a WR. He would be there at a fair value. They assumed that Dillard would be long gone. When he fell, they shuffled their board and chose their highest rated player. This is not unlike my hypothesizing about choosing Andrew Thomas should he fall to us, even though he does not fill a pressing need. Having made the Dillard pick, then Sanders, the need for a WR had become more pressing and JJAW was a need pick. Looks bad now, we all agree, but there is still time. He clearly didn't know how to play WR coming in and the coaches did him no favors. So...we got new coaches.

Dillard being there wouldn’t have led to them reshuffling the board though. They simply traded up for the highest rated guy on their board at a valuable position and one with a need. 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wonder if he was able to get the word to Carson

Not sure why that would matter.  This is an NFL decision, not a team one.  

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's a brilliant process that results in some of the best food you can find anywhere in the world. 

False.

12 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I have a London broil as it was on sale that I plan to use a red wine marinade on that I will reduce into a sauce.  Have a white wine reduction planned for some chicken for my wife if she will sacrifice a cup of wine.  The red wine is a bottle I opened from the cellar that wasn’t quite what I remembered but should make a good sauce.  Figure the wife owes me as I used some of my tequila for tequila lime chicken 

Never tried to reduce a liquid like root beer.  Does the sugar burn or carmelize?

It will carmelize, i try to use rootbeer with just sugar in it no high fructose corn syrup, it doesnt reduce well.

I dont drink alcohol so im not familiar with cooking with it, which is like a cooking sin i know, so i wouldnt be able to say how it compares to a wine reduction but i think the root beer carmelizes well but will burn if left too long like most.

Ive always wanted to do wine reductions and sauces or cook with tequilla for mexican dishes but thats not my life so i try to make do with rootbeer and dr pepper😄 balsamic reduction every once in a while.

So, just to change the conversation for just a moment...

 

I haven't seen TP or PT in any store since this lockdown began.  Upon a conversation with my dad, he mentioned that the industrial stuff is still available, as that stuff wasn't panic purchased, and it's not being ordered by most companies as they are closed.

 

 

So... I made a purchase that will cover my paper product needs for a few months... 

They are due to arrive to my house in a week.

Figured I'd pass this information along.  I can't be the only one not finding anything in stores.

 

Inconvenient... sure.  But, better than running out.   

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

I guess i need a smoker. Any recommendations?

I have an electric smoker, i know smoker snobs will turn their noses up at it but it works just as well. It was about 150 bucks. I plug it in set the time and temp. Put my wood chips in and how ever many hours later pull out my perfectly smoked cooked meat. Im not a pro pit master so it works for me and my fam.

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's a brilliant process that results in some of the best food you can find anywhere in the world. 

My daughter worked there in high school.  Based on what she said we haven’t eaten there since.   In college, I loved Taco Bell, I could get a bean burrito and a Pepsi in a cartoon character glass for under a buck.   I worked my way through college in a grocery store in a nouveau rich area where during a rush I would bag groceries and take them out to the car and would get tipped some change.  Some days I would splurge and get an enchirrito.  I doubt either of those is on the menu anymore.  At least back then Taco Bell pretended to serve Tex Mex. 

59 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

You would agree that’s not good process though, right?

Also, Campbell had about five different injuries and missed half the season. But all of that is beside the point. 

I think you're dealing with incomplete information in regards to that article.  The article says that Campbell was the highest ranked "outside" receiver at the time.  We really don't know what that means internally to the Eagles.    They may have seen Campbell strictly as an X receiver.  Or strictly as a Z receiver.   But they may have had JJAW ranked higher as a potential hybrid X/Y/Z receiver.  Basically, you're banging your head and going through mental gymnastics based off of conjecture.   

Regarding the use of the logo, if this site gains no economic benefit from the use of trademarks, the team/league shouldn't have a real issue.

For those that hadn't noticed, the NFL owns the term "Superbowl".  That's why bars, restaurants, TV stores, etc. all refer to it as the "big game" when promoting in Jan/Feb.

If it really becomes an issue, the team and this board can come to a licensing agreement with a nominal fee.

 

16 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I think you're dealing with incomplete information in regards to that article.  The article says that Campbell was the highest ranked "outside" receiver at the time.  We really don't know what that means internally to the Eagles.    They may have seen Campbell strictly as an X receiver.  Or strictly as a Z receiver.   But they may have had JJAW ranked higher as a potential hybrid X/Y/Z receiver.  Basically, you're banging your head and going through mental gymnastics based off of conjecture.   

There are no mental gymnastics on this end. I’m playing along with the article at face value, and the article clearly stated the Eagles had Campbell higher than JJAW on their draft board and that they debated the pick while on the clock (instead of having that done ahead of time).

15 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So, just to change the conversation for just a moment...

 

I haven't seen TP or PT in any store since this lockdown began.  Upon a conversation with my dad, he mentioned that the industrial stuff is still available, as that stuff wasn't panic purchased, and it's not being ordered by most companies as they are closed.

 

 

So... I made a purchase that will cover my paper product needs for a few months... 

They are due to arrive to my house in a week.

Figured I'd pass this information along.  I can't be the only one not finding anything in stores.

 

Inconvenient... sure.  But, better than running out.   

yeah i bought a case of 80 rolls 2 ply from one of my vendors , then my brother asked me to get him a case after 10 failed trips to get some

17 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Derrick Gunn confirming....

 

Funny to see how it's 2 philly reporters saying this.  

36 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's a brilliant process that results in some of the best food you can find anywhere in the world. 

Of course sir 😂😂😂

Regarding shuffling one's board...

The Eagles allowed a camera into their draft room in 1982. I forget which network did a special on it. I think it was CBS. (I have it on VHS, and just checked; yes, it was CBS, with John Madden actually in the room during the draft.) At the time, Dick Vermeil was recovering from hepatitis. The team desperately wanted to draft a wide receiver but were also looking at offensive linemen. Tennessee wide receiver Anthony Hancock was the coveted target, but he was never going to be there for them. And he went to the Chiefs at pick eleven. The Eagles were picking twentieth. 

There is video evidence of the Eagles draft board when their turn was approaching. They have Clemson wide receiver Perry Tuttle targeted as their top guy. Just below him are offensive linemen Roy Foster, Bubba Paris, and Terry Tausch, along with wide receiver Mike Quick. They have Tuttle first, followed by Foster. Then Vermeil shuffles the sequence, putting it Tuttle, Tausch, Paris, Quick, and Foster. In that order. Carl Pederson gently chastises Vermeil  as he's moving the cards around ("You're not doing it by the grades, coach!") With Denver on the clock at nineteen, Vermeil says, "Ill tell you this though, Buffalo (who picks right after the Eagles) will take Quick...I know they respect him...that much." The Bills then jump the Eagles in a trade with the Broncos and take Tuttle. The Eagles are devastated. They decide to call the Browns (at thirty one) and say "Are you interested in this pick?...No, we're not interested in a player." No trade happens and the Eagles are forced to make a selection. Despite the fact that they originally had Quick below the offensive linemen, they switch it around and take him. Vermeil seems to have been initially reluctant but is gradually talked into it. "If we're off, we're off." Quick ended up being -- by far-- the best of all of the guys mentioned. (Foster eventually goes 24 to Miami; Paris goes 29 to San Francisco, and Tausch goes 39 to Minnesota.)

So yeah, teams do tweak their cards a bit when the time comes.

Incidentally, it looks like Quick is listed at 6022 185 4.66A on his card, which is clearly visible on camera at one point. I'm assuming the A means astroturf time. 

34 minutes ago, Utebird said:

It will carmelize, i try to use rootbeer with just sugar in it no high fructose corn syrup, it doesnt reduce well.

I dont drink alcohol so im not familiar with cooking with it, which is like a cooking sin i know, so i wouldnt be able to say how it compares to a wine reduction but i think the root beer carmelizes well but will burn if left too long like most.

Ive always wanted to do wine reductions and sauces or cook with tequilla for mexican dishes but thats not my life so i try to make do with rootbeer and dr pepper😄 balsamic reduction every once in a while.

Well I subscribe to Julia Child’s theory of a cup of a cup of wine for the meat and a cup for the dish, so I am a poor example.   The alcohol cooks off.  If you decide to try it, just buy a bottle of wine, stay away from cooking wines, although for Marsalis you may not have a choice.   Try a little red wine vinegar at some point in a sauce to give you an idea of the flavor.

I used to use Dr. Pepper in some sauces but not in a long time as High Fructose doesn’t cook as well as cane syrup.  Quit making Coca Cola cake for the same reason. 

Given that most people want the Eagles to draft 2 WR, who do folks want as the 2nd WR chosen?  I'm assuming this pick will come with one of the three 4th round picks.  My preference might be John Hightower, or Van Jefferson if he's still on the board in the 4th due to his foot issue discovered during Combine testing.

If for some reason the Eagles grab a WR late (5th/6th round) I would look for Quartney Davis or James Proche.

5 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Regarding shuffling one's board...

The Eagles allowed a camera into their draft room in 1982. I forget which network did a special on it. I think it was CBS. (I have it on VHS, and just checked; yes, it was CBS, with John Madden actually in the room during the draft.) At the time, Dick Vermeil was recovering from hepatitis. The team desperately wanted to draft a wide receiver but were also looking at offensive linemen. Tennessee wide receiver Anthony Hancock was the coveted target, but he was never going to be there for them. And he went to the Chiefs at pick eleven. The Eagles were picking twentieth. 

There is video evidence of the Eagles draft board when their turn was approaching. They have Clemson wide receiver Perry Tuttle targeted as their top guy. Just below him are offensive linemen Roy Foster, Bubba Paris, and Terry Tausch, along with wide receiver Mike Quick. They have Tuttle first, followed by Foster. Then Vermeil shuffles the sequence, putting it Tuttle, Tausch, Paris, Quick, and Foster. In that order. Carl Pederson gently chastises Vermeil  as he's moving the cards around ("You're not doing it by the grades, coach!") With Denver on the clock at nineteen, Vermeil says, "Ill tell you this though, Buffalo (who picks right after the Eagles) will take Quick...I know they respect him...that much." The Bills then jump the Eagles in a trade with the Broncos and take Tuttle. The Eagles are devastated. They decide to call the Browns (at thirty one) and say "Are you interested in this pick?...No, we're not interested in a player." No trade happens and the Eagles are forced to make a selection. Despite the fact that they originally had Quick below the offensive linemen, they switch it around and take him. Vermeil seems to have been initially reluctant but is gradually talked into it. "If we're off, we're off." Quick ended up being -- by far-- the best of all of the guys mentioned. (Foster eventually goes 24 to Miami; Paris goes 29 to San Francisco, and Tausch goes 39 to Minnesota.)

So yeah, teams do tweak their cards a bit when the time comes.

Incidentally, it looks like Quick is listed at 6022 185 4.66A on his card, which is clearly visible on camera at one point. I'm assuming the A means astroturf time. 

Even bad process can end well. I’m sure things have become smarter over the past 40 years. 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Given that most people want the Eagles to draft 2 WR, who do folks want as the 2nd WR chosen?  I'm assuming this pick will come with one of the three 4th round picks.  My preference might be John Hightower, or Van Jefferson if he's still on the board in the 4th due to his foot issue discovered during Combine testing.

If for some reason the Eagles grab a WR late (5th/6th round) I would look for Quartney Davis or James Proche.

Depends on the first WR picked. 

47 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not sure why that would matter.  This is an NFL decision, not a team one.  

 

Because someone asked him if he could reach out to Carson

I’ve been watching Wentz’s rookie season on NFL game pass and I forgot how much I enjoyed watching Ryan Mathews run the ball, dude ran so hard and had enough wiggle to make some guys miss, it’s too bad his body just couldn’t handle it 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

There is no mental gymnastics on this end. I’m playing along with the article at face value, and the article clearly stated the Eagles had Campbell higher than JJAW on their draft board.

It doesn't really say that though. As a matter of fact, it says that their board is not a "black and white" ranking...

The board isn’t black and white. The Eagles don’t list prospects numerically and select the next available name when they’re on the clock. Using the system Douglas brought to the franchise in 2017, they rank players on five tiers and give them numerical grades with evaluations that give additional weight to how they project to the Eagles’ schemes and preferences.

Most of the grades fall somewhere in between 7.0 and 5.5. The numbers come with "alerts” based on size, character, or medical issues, for instance. "Day 1″ starter is the top tier, and prospects who fall into that category are listed according to their grade, usually somewhere between 7.0-6.7.

There could be, for instance, several prospects with a 6.7 grade at various positions, but there is an overall ranking, and one within each position. There is wiggle room and subjective choices will be made based on need, etc.

 

Then it goes on to say....

 

The Eagles selected running back Miles Sanders, an overwhelming favorite in the building, with their first pick in the second round the next day. They were up again four picks later but had expected to take a receiver based on the way their board was stacked.

Of the receivers left on their board, Parris Campbell had the highest grade of the outside receivers. DK Metcalf had a similar grade, but he had been flagged as a medical alert and was further down the board.

Mecole Hardman was next ahead of Arcega-Whiteside – they had similar grades – but Hardman went to the Chiefs the slot before the Eagles. The clock started. The head honchos huddled. Two lobbied for Campbell based on his ranking. One argued for Arcega-Whiteside, and the last holdout went along. Roseman made the final decision based on the side with more clout.

 

 

Now let's say that Campell had the highest overall grade for an "outside receiver".  Let's say he graded a "6.5" as an outside receiver.  DK Metcalf also graded a 6.5 but he was flagged.  Then we have  Hardman who graded a "6.3' as an outside receiver, followed by JJAW who graded a "6.2".  The article ONLY states what they graded as "outside receivers".  They (according to the first part of the article) have grades for other positions...so maybe Campbell graded a "6.5" as an X receiver, then "6.0" as a Y receiver and a "5.5" as a Z receiver.  But JJAW although graded as a "6.2" as an X receiver, "5.8" as a Y receiver and a "6.2" as a Z receiver.  Although JJAW did not rank as high as a X receiver he ranked higher in the other two receiver positions.  Then the article goes on to say it's based off of team needs and who has more "clout". 

So hypothetically, you have scouts A & B wanting Campbell since they think a vertical threat receiver X is the biggest need and on the other side you have Joe Douglas, who feels they need more of a traditional "big" receiver who can play all 3 positions, if need be....then you have Doug Pederson who ends up agreeing with Joe Douglas....so Howie goes with Joe Douglas/Doug Pederson (more clout) and they draft JJAW.   

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Because someone asked him if he could reach out to Carson

People were asking him to ask Carson for a donation.  

He said he notified him. 

27 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

My daughter worked there in high school.  Based on what she said we haven’t eaten there since.   In college, I loved Taco Bell, I could get a bean burrito and a Pepsi in a cartoon character glass for under a buck.   I worked my way through college in a grocery store in a nouveau rich area where during a rush I would bag groceries and take them out to the car and would get tipped some change.  Some days I would splurge and get an enchirrito.  I doubt either of those is on the menu anymore.  At least back then Taco Bell pretended to serve Tex Mex. 

I worked at the Taco Bell in High School. I cooked a lot of grade d meat. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

People were asking him to ask Carson for a donation.  

He said he notified him. 

Carson doesn't need to donate money to the Board.  That's so asinine.