Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We added our information weeks ago.  

Well maybe i get mine in time for the holiday season. Lol. 

Wonder if the Eagles would have taken Hamler or Hurts if both were there at 53. I think they were pretty hellbent on taking Hurts but who knows.

The development and success of Reagor is ultimately the most important part of this draft and perhaps the long term success of this team. 
 

Ultimately, if Reagor is a productive player and plays like a 1st round pick , I think it goes a long way in helping the team win games. We know Wentz will play well, Sanders will produce, and the O-Line will be good. 
 

If Reagor is good, it’ll be more difficult to dwell on the Hurts pick. 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He has too many teeth

I thought it might have been this guy, but I get a weird feeling this is Meat McGinley.  TUCKER!!  

 

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

BTW...I recently lost my job due to Covid.

It's been really helpful that this forum continues to be a comfortable distraction for me.

Sorry about your job. Hopefully this gets turned around and you are back to work. But at least all of us have the emb thanks to vabeach

So I'm in the process of watching the 2017 season. Alshon was pretty darned good but when he went deep Carson overthrew him a lot

52 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

You do understand the likelihood of Hurts doing what Foles did is literally near 0, right?

Foles was a vet who had bounced around the league, Hurts is still a project.

Of course I get that. I was rebutting the comment by the twitter chick who said she didn’t want to win a Super Bowl with another backup. I’m just saying I don’t care who’s on the field if we win another. 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Ever since the Eagles hired AR, they have been a well above average organization.  I would imagine they are somewhere in the top 10 in the NFL in wins since 1999.  They aren't in that echelon of NFL royalty, but they aren't far off.

Fans are customers.  Customers don't like to be told how lucky they are and how good they have it.  Politically/PR, that was the tone the Eagles took with fans and local media early on (gold standard being one example) and they've occasionally got back into trouble by striking that cord again over the years.

Bingo.

23 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

I was thinking about the QB position in general and I wonder if it doesn’t need its own draft scale that’s different from other positions. 
 

what I mean is, based on recent years (say since Russel Wilson) if you want a potential stud franchise QB, you almost have to be picking top 5. Sure, you can get lucky later, but it would be outside the norm. 

any QB prospect outside of 5 feels more like  the equivalent of a 4th/5th round position player. Maybe they play a few years as a solid backup and then drift away. Every once in a while you get lucky and find a competent starter. 
 

so then, does that mean value for QBs looks something like this?

 

franchise QB top 5 pick

legit starter/quality backup rounds 1/2

”flyers” round 3

and everything after is like a 6th/7th round backup crapshoot 

 

 

Put it this way, if other players are 50/50 in the 2nd round, and solid backup QBs are 50/50 in the 2nd round, which would you want, a middle of the road starter at any other position or a backup QB who can win games for you if your starter goes down.

Last year's playoff teams - this year's backup QB(s)

BUF:  Barkley

NE:  Stidham/Hoyer

Bal:  RGIII, McSorley

GB:  Love (1st rd)

Minn:  Sean Mannion

Hou:  McCarron

Tenn:  Woodside

NO:  Hill, Winston?

KC:  Henne

SF:  Mullens, Breathard

Sea:  no one listed on their roster right now

Near PO teams:

Dallas:  Cooper Rush or Thorson, if Dak gets hurt, kiss their season goodbye

Rams:  John Wolford

Chi:  Nick Foles

Pit:  Mason Rudolph

TB:  Blaine Gabbert

ATL:  Matt Schaub

Now how many of these guys would you trust to win a game, much less carry a team into the playoffs if the starting QB goes down?

18 minutes ago, RLC said:

Because they're often deficient in one area.
- Size/arm strength: Kellen Moore, Colt McCoy
- Production: Christian Ponder
- Character: Geno Smith, Jameis Winston

Winston wasnt a 4 year starter 

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Ever since the Eagles hired AR, they have been a well above average organization.  I would imagine they are somewhere in the top 10 in the NFL in wins since 1999.  They aren't in that echelon of NFL royalty, but they aren't far off.

Regular season wins since '99:

1) New England 245

2) Pittsburgh 212

3) Indianapolis 210

4) Green Bay 206

5) Baltimore 198

6) Philadelphia 195.5

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Literally just was able to add my direct deposit on Saturday so mine isn’t coming for a while I’m guessing lol. 

Lucky you, i'm still getting the Status Not Available screen

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t want him in general cause i think he’s overrated and done now that he actually has to beat people with his arm. Additional to what you said. However i think if he went to Washington it’s cause rivera would want him starting over Haskins cause Haskins isn’t his guy. When i said compete for it is more to make it feel like haskin had a chance to win it when he really didn’t. 

Rivera did take a CAR QB with him to WAS -- and it was Newton's backup.  Speaks volumes about Cam Newton IMO

As an on-field starting QB I believe Newton is finished.  His size and mobility were his calling cards.  Even at his size the punishment of the NFL is wearing his body down.  Who knows if his rebuilt shoulder can be effective?  Who knows if he still has the same mobility after his foot surgery?

As an off-field player Cam Newton is nowhere close to being a good teammate, much less a leader.  When he scored a TD against the Eagles he celebrated in the end zone by himself -- can't remember the last time I saw a QB do that.  He's immature, rude, and extremely moody.

Put me down in the 'HELL NO to Cam Newton' column, in any capacity.

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Regular season wins since '99:

1) New England 245

2) Pittsburgh 212

3) Indianapolis 210

4) Green Bay 206

5) Baltimore 198

6) Philadelphia 195.5

Don't mention the 0.5 to McNabb.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Ever since the Eagles hired AR, they have been a well above average organization.  I would imagine they are somewhere in the top 10 in the NFL in wins since 1999.  They aren't in that echelon of NFL royalty, but they aren't far off.

Fans are customers.  Customers don't like to be told how lucky they are and how good they have it.  Politically/PR, that was the tone the Eagles took with fans and local media early on (gold standard being one example) and they've occasionally got back into trouble by striking that cord again over the years.

 

Rk	Tm	From	To	G	W	L	T	W-L%
1	NWE	1999	2019	336	245	91	0	73%
2	PIT	1999	2019	336	211	123	2	63%
3	IND	1999	2019	336	210	126	0	63%
4	GNB	1999	2019	336	205	129	2	61%
5	BAL	1999	2019	336	198	138	0	59%
6	PHI	1999	2019	336	195	140	1	58%
7	SEA	1999	2019	336	191	144	1	57%
8	DEN	1999	2019	336	188	148	0	56%
9	NOR	1999	2019	336	186	150	0	55%
10	DAL	1999	2019	336	176	160	0	52%
11	MIN	1999	2019	336	175	159	2	52%
12	KAN	1999	2019	336	175	161	0	52%
13	TEN	1999	2019	336	173	163	0	52%
14	SDG / LAC	1999	2019	336	170	166	0	51%
15	ATL	1999	2019	336	169	166	1	50%
16	NYG	1999	2019	336	165	171	0	49%
17	CAR	1999	2019	336	165	170	1	49%
18	CHI	1999	2019	336	163	173	0	49%
19	MIA	1999	2019	336	158	178	0	47%
20	STL / LAR	1999	2019	336	157	178	1	47%
21	NYJ	1999	2019	336	156	180	0	46%
22	SFO	1999	2019	336	152	183	1	45%
23	CIN	1999	2019	336	149	184	3	45%
24	TAM	1999	2019	336	149	187	0	44%
25	BUF	1999	2019	336	148	188	0	44%
26	ARI	1999	2019	336	143	191	2	43%
27	WAS	1999	2019	336	142	193	1	42%
28	JAX	1999	2019	336	141	195	0	42%
29	OAK	1999	2019	336	133	203	0	40%
30	HOU	2002	2019	288	131	157	0	46%
31	DET	1999	2019	336	122	213	1	37%
32	CLE	1999	2019	336	101	234	1	30%

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

BTW...I recently lost my job due to Covid.

It's been really helpful that this forum continues to be a comfortable distraction for me.

Sorry to hear that.   We will try to make it comfortable... but you know that sometimes this place becomes uncomfortable.  Like when they draft a QB in the 2nd round... or something...

35 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

32 head coaching positions in the NFL, THREE African-American head coaches.

32 GM positions, Five of them are African American.

Must just be a massive coincidence then that only 12.5 percent of the coaches/GMs in this league are African-American. 

 

Got to put in time at lower positions to become head coaches and GMs. All of the Eagles coaches, scouting executives and Howie did that.  The percentage you show is similar to the percentage of African Americans in the US so that diversity matches the population of the country and I suspect is higher than senior executives in other billion dollar companies.  When you look at coaching and player evaluation positions, very few of the persons in those roles played NFL football so comparing the players to the staff is flawed.  What tends to be the case is they all put in time at grunt positions, regardless of race, to work their way up.   

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Ever since the Eagles hired AR, they have been a well above average organization.  I would imagine they are somewhere in the top 10 in the NFL in wins since 1999.  They aren't in that echelon of NFL royalty, but they aren't far off.

Fans are customers.  Customers don't like to be told how lucky they are and how good they have it.  Politically/PR, that was the tone the Eagles took with fans and local media early on (gold standard being one example) and they've occasionally got back into trouble by striking that cord again over the years.

I don't have the sense of urgency to research this, but since '99, who outside of the Patriots and Steelers would have a better record than the Eagles (Chiefs maybe, Colts?)?  Saints didn't get Brees until 10 years into that.  I'm not really trying to stick up for them (I loathe the gold standard comment), but I can't picture 5 teams that would have a better record over that time frame. 

54 minutes ago, greend said:

I'd take Newton if he wanted to be back-up. I wouldn't take Winston if he brought a 200 y.o. bottle of Scotch with him and Cuban cigars

I think Newton’s arm is done.  Really could not throw very far last year after coming back from the shoulder injury. 

6 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Regular season wins since '99:

1) New England 245

2) Pittsburgh 212

3) Indianapolis 210

4) Green Bay 206

5) Baltimore 198

6) Philadelphia 195.5

yup, seems about right

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

Rk	Tm	From	To	G	W	L	T	W-L%
1	NWE	1999	2019	336	245	91	0	73%
2	PIT	1999	2019	336	211	123	2	63%
3	IND	1999	2019	336	210	126	0	63%
4	GNB	1999	2019	336	205	129	2	61%
5	BAL	1999	2019	336	198	138	0	59%
6	PHI	1999	2019	336	195	140	1	58%
7	SEA	1999	2019	336	191	144	1	57%
8	DEN	1999	2019	336	188	148	0	56%
9	NOR	1999	2019	336	186	150	0	55%
10	DAL	1999	2019	336	176	160	0	52%
11	MIN	1999	2019	336	175	159	2	52%
12	KAN	1999	2019	336	175	161	0	52%
13	TEN	1999	2019	336	173	163	0	52%
14	SDG / LAC	1999	2019	336	170	166	0	51%
15	ATL	1999	2019	336	169	166	1	50%
16	NYG	1999	2019	336	165	171	0	49%
17	CAR	1999	2019	336	165	170	1	49%
18	CHI	1999	2019	336	163	173	0	49%
19	MIA	1999	2019	336	158	178	0	47%
20	STL / LAR	1999	2019	336	157	178	1	47%
21	NYJ	1999	2019	336	156	180	0	46%
22	SFO	1999	2019	336	152	183	1	45%
23	CIN	1999	2019	336	149	184	3	45%
24	TAM	1999	2019	336	149	187	0	44%
25	BUF	1999	2019	336	148	188	0	44%
26	ARI	1999	2019	336	143	191	2	43%
27	WAS	1999	2019	336	142	193	1	42%
28	JAX	1999	2019	336	141	195	0	42%
29	OAK	1999	2019	336	133	203	0	40%
30	HOU	2002	2019	288	131	157	0	46%
31	DET	1999	2019	336	122	213	1	37%
32	CLE	1999	2019	336	101	234	1	30%

👍  Thank you! 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lucky you, i'm still getting the Status Not Available screen

I finally got through.  But, I need to figure out where my 2018 return is so that I can update my Direct Deposit.  

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

yup, seems about right

I think I forgot how many bad season KC must have had before Andy Reid got there.  All I remember was early 2000s with Dick V, Trent Greene, Priest Holmes, and it seems like they averaged about 40 points per game.  

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Regular season wins since '99:

1) New England 245

2) Pittsburgh 212

3) Indianapolis 210

4) Green Bay 206

5) Baltimore 198

6) Philadelphia 195.5

Not too shabby, and we went 5-11 in 99 with Dougie P starting 9 games after drafting McNabb.

Yawn so when do the last of the free agents sign?