1 hour ago, AzBirdGang said:

I don't get how they thought a 2nd rounder on Hurts is worth it. The LSU game tape is pretty bad. I know he has no time to throw but wow. I was not impressed. 

When Carson had no time to throw people made excuses. I guess when you like the player the rules change? 

 

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Next year and there is nothing that keeps them from doing an extension between now and next year that can change up the terms. 

I'm expecting a breakout season from Barnett in 2020.  Look for him to approach double digit sacks.  I'd try to lock him up long-term at a bargain rate before that happens.

Grading a draft that just happened is pointless so let’s look at 2017... 

Barnett

S. Jones 

Douglas 

Hollins 

Gibson 

Gerry 

Since we won the Super Bowl that year I’d give it a "C”. 

 

8 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Man, I’m out of touch .... I’ve never heard of anyone named Hadley in my life

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

... losing in the playoffs because they went with an old backup (i.e. wanting to avoid Flacco).    

Did they say this or am I misreading your post? Because they didn't lose that game because McCown is old, they lost that game bc they were running a MASH unit on offense and couldn't stop Metcalf or Wilson when they needed to. A young backup QB isn't winning that game with that surrounding cast.

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s nice that the Eagles didn’t have any of those easy to predict bust draft picks this season like Pump or Thorson. 

Cue the Hurts rioters. 

Bradley?

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Man, I’m out of touch .... I’ve never heard of anyone named Hadley in my life

Had to look this up. Apparently the #135 most popular girl's name in the US in 2019. So yeah, we're both out of touch.

 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Bradley?

Solak said he liked him, so I’m going to trust I watched the worst game of his life. 

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Grading a draft that just happened is pointless so let’s look at 2017... 

Barnett

S. Jones 

Douglas 

Hollins 

Gibson 

Gerry 

Since we won the Super Bowl that year I’d give it a "C”. 

Starting DE

possible Starting CB

Depth CB

bum

bum

Starting LB

so was it good or bad? 3 starters and a depth guy. 

@NoDak Eagle congrats on the addition to your family. Never understood the names. Would it be grand uncle?

52 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Taylor practiced in HS, he just could only play on Saturday because of his mom’s religious beliefs.   Played at his Juco and started for the Buffs.  That is more experience than Aiyuk, for example.  Kid shows great football IQ, real good instincts and solid tackling form. He is an uber athlete.  A tad light, if 228 is light for a OLB anymore. He can cover.  His worst issue is overcoming blocks. That is pretty normal for college OLBs coming into the league. I am super excited about him.   I think he quickly becomes the WIL with Riley as the Ike Reese, #4 that can play any position. Riley will push TJ at MIKE.  Let’s hope Taylor can teach his tackling to Gerry.

It seemed to me that when they played Oregon he paused before reacting to plays.  It was just one game and maybe I am jaded by a past fast undersized OLB prospect who never developed.  

5 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Starting DE

possible Starting CB

Depth CB

bum

bum

Starting LB

so was it good or bad? 3 starters and a depth guy. 

That's pretty damn good.  Could look even better in a year if Barnett/Jones/Geary step up their games.  At least a B already.

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Solak said he liked him, so I’m going to trust I watched the worst game of his life. 

Yeah I expect him to contribute unless he gets hurt again.  Expecting our top 4 WRs this year to be Reagor/Jackson/Goodwin/Ward.  JJAW as the 5th guy.

Don't expect anything from Hightower or Watkins, but hopefully at least one of them provides something in the future.  Wouldn't be surprised if they try to stash both of them on the PS this year and just go with 5 WRs.

15 minutes ago, PoopsyMcDoopsy said:

Did they say this or am I misreading your post? Because they didn't lose that game because McCown is old, they lost that game bc they were running a MASH unit on offense and couldn't stop Metcalf or Wilson when they needed to. A young backup QB isn't winning that game with that surrounding cast.

They lost that game for a variety of reasons, one of them was that McCown tore his hamstring.

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s nice that the Eagles didn’t have any of those easy to predict bust draft picks this season like Pump or Thorson. 

Cue the Hurts rioters. 

i didn’t like the thorson pick either. Not cause where they took him but just as a prospect. When i read more and more about him i liked him even less. That said i also loved slayton as a late round guy kind of like how i feel about hightower. Although slayton i was higher on due to conference and comp

12 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Starting DE

possible Starting CB

Depth CB

bum

bum

Starting LB

so was it good or bad? 3 starters and a depth guy. 

Imo Barnett should have been a 2nd rounder. So that’s an average starter. 
 

So far Douglas has been a better pick than Jones. 
 

Hollins was a very nice contributor as a #4 WR his rookie year and on ST. 
 

Gerry is probably the best pick for where he was drafted. However he is a below average starter at a position that’s not of great importance, so take that for what it’s worth I guess. 

30 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

I’m shocked jalen wasn’t considered as middle or first name. It’s the hot name in philly. 

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We — I — b****d a lot about our handling of the WR position back in March. How are we feeling about it now?

I still don’t love the position group, but with Reagor and Goodwin we’ve added legitimate speed. Hightower and Watkins were good process picks but more likely than not to be inconsequential in the long run. I’m giving Howie a C-. 

I love what we did at a fundamental, team/group level. Has any team in the NFL gotten faster than the Eagles? Top to bottom, we have become incredibly fast after being pathetically slow.

That said, I do think we need to be realistic about the overall improvement at the position and it’s translation onto the field. Reagor is really the only high probability impact player. Goodwin, Hightower, and Quez are all low probability acquisitions. We made three of them in the hopes of hitting on one or two good role players. I like the odds of finding a good deep threat from that group, but it’s tough to expect anything more than a 3rd or 4th WR.

C- seems a bit harsh, I’d say C+/B-. We needed to get much younger, much faster and much deeper at the position. We did that. But we didn’t add multiple blue chip talents, which prevents a higher grade.

34 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Oops. Didn't know it was already posted. Oh well lol

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

How do you feel about 2020?

I feel pretty good.  There's little proven talent but I think we have enough darts to throw. Should be better than last year.  Even if they suck,  sucky fast guys will help Ertz get open more than our sucky slow guys did. 

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

I love what we did at a fundamental, team/group level. Has any team in the NFL gotten faster than the Eagles? Top to bottom, we have become incredibly fast after being pathetically slow.

That said, I do think we need to be realistic about the overall improvement at the position and it’s translation onto the field. Reagor is really the only high probability impact player. Goodwin, Hightower, and Quez are all low probability acquisitions. We made three of them in the hopes of hitting on one or two good role players. I like the odds of finding a good deep threat from that group, but it’s tough to expect anything more than a 3rd or 4th WR.

C- seems a bit harsh, I’d say C+/B-. We needed to get much younger, much faster and much deeper at the position. We did that. But we didn’t add multiple blue chip talents, which prevents a higher grade.

I see one guy we can reasonably expect to be a contributor beyond 2020. I thought two was the minimum going into FA. 

Flash forward to the first MNF game of the season.

Carson is regularly throwing down field to Jackson and Reagor.  Ertz and Goedert are feeding on social-distancing-like coverage over the middle.  Sanders is tearing it up behind one of the best lines in football.  And we've just gone up by 20 after a pick-six by Slay.

What will we get?  A five minute conversation about the Hurts pick.

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

I love what we did at a fundamental, team/group level. Has any team in the NFL gotten faster than the Eagles? Top to bottom, we have become incredibly fast after being pathetically slow.

That said, I do think we need to be realistic about the overall improvement at the position and it’s translation onto the field. Reagor is really the only high probability impact player. Goodwin, Hightower, and Quez are all low probability acquisitions. We made three of them in the hopes of hitting on one or two good role players. I like the odds of finding a good deep threat from that group, but it’s tough to expect anything more than a 3rd or 4th WR.

C- seems a bit harsh, I’d say C+/B-. We needed to get much younger, much faster and much deeper at the position. We did that. But we didn’t add multiple blue chip talents, which prevents a higher grade.

Fair, but what have we got to go on except our gut feeling? I think Reagor, Wallace and Tayler could very well work out. That alone makes a quite successful draft.

Then I think Hurts was a big time move that will pay off, and soon. So that leaves quite a few gambles on fast players. If any of them works out that would be nice.

So yeah. Is it the best draft I could think of? Probably not. They took the guys they liked most early, didn't gamble on Reagor (rightfully so), not on Hurts nor Taylor.

Still looks pretty damn good to me.