1 minute ago, BwianWestbwook said:

We probably make the bowl if we get past Sea imo, I don't know if we could keep up with KC though

KC had way too much offense for our defense to handle. I think they would have been blown out

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I’m not a Lamb fan anyway, so I don’t mind.

Ah, 2011.  The draft that got AR fired.  I don’t know if Howie or AR were responsible for it, but the resulting roster they had in 2012 is why AR got fired. 

It wasn't just the draft, there were other crazy contributions.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

@ManuManu @EagleTen

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/2020-nfl-draft-howie-roseman-trade-ceedee-lamb

Quote from Howie at the end.  Last line mentions future picks, or more exactly adds to the confusion.

Clear as mud. 

The Eagles wanted a particular skill set. As good of a prospect as Lamb is, that wasn’t it. Ruggs or Jeudy would have fit better. I preferred Jeudy out of those two. It wouldn’t surprise me for the Eagles having Ruggs-Reagor as their 1-2 options. 

8 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Too risky. If Sanders Wentz gets hurt you have zero depth and Scott Sudfield isn't the type of guy who can handle 15-20 even a few touches a game.

Why they drafted Hurts.

41 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's reasonable to think that DeSean will be a little slower, but not washed in one year. Speed threats tend to hang around (see Ted Ginn)

If he’s reasonably healthy, he’s far from washed. 

27 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

70 is retired

And I like LBs in the 50s (54 and 56 are available)

Didn't realize that.  75 by default then.  Forgot Vinny is a FA.

I like LB in the 50s too, if both are available then give Taylor 54 and Bradley 56.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah, old past their prime running backs is what will send this roster to the next level.  Yeah.  That’s it.  

What? I agree with you on something? I must be losing my mind!

Count me in the minority possibly, but I think Desean will be huge this year, he will be healthy. 

I dont know whose decision it was last year not to get surgery immediately, but I hope our medical team is improved.

BTW I think Carson's first press conf (incl timing) will be telling on how he feels on theJalen Hurts pick...

49 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's reasonable to think that DeSean will be a little slower, but not washed in one year. Speed threats tend to hang around (see Ted Ginn)

Folks seem to forget that DJax also gets separation from great route running and he has A+ hands.   If he’s healthy, I can see him playing well into his mid 30’s.  He’s not just a speed threat. 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If he’s reasonably healthy, he’s far from washed. 

DJax will be healthy to start the season.  How long he stays healthy and effective depends on how he was used and the contacts he takes on field.  To be honest, I'd not give him a heavy load of snaps.  Having quality speedy WR behind him is critical.  Goodwin may or maynot be that guy.  The rookies if show something early, they should get PT and develop.  Next season, DJax and Goodwin likely will not be here.  So, the rookies have to be ready then.

 

2 hours ago, Allhaildawk said:

1- I doubt it, I think hurts is your backup. 
 

2- we weren’t so far off from winning that game anyway, so it’s not crazy to think a web puts us over the top. 
 

3- I don’t think anyway is saying that. I’m not at least. 99% of the time if your first an goes down your goose is cooked as far as Super Bowls go. That’s not the value of a backup qb to me. The value is when you have a six game stretch while your guy has a high ankle or a rib or something like that. Lose those six games your season is over. Win them and you have a first round bye. Win 4-5 and you preserve your playoff spot. That’s where the value in a backup is, to me.  Carson does a rib week 12, back for playoffs  who gets us to the playoffs with decent seeding.  If hurts is that guy, I’m ok with a second rounder going to that. Especially if he flashes and gets that pick back down the line. 

Saying "we won a SB with a backup" or "we've gotten more out of the backup QB position than anyone" is expecting it to be able to happen again, IMO.

The Foles winning SB was literally out of nowhere featuring debate on whether or not Suds should start in the playoff.

I'm not ok using a 2nd round on a backup who will only help in gimmick plays or if your QB goes down during the twilight prime years of your best players currently.

 

If the Eagles get healthy which I think they will , I'd be looking at the Rams, Falcons and Saints. But that's just me. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks seem to forget that DJax also gets separation from great route running and he has A+ hands.   If he’s healthy, I can see him playing well into his mid 30’s.  He’s not just a speed threat. 

A+ hands?! At no point in his career did DJ have A+ hands. 

9 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

A+ hands?! At no point in his career did DJ have A+ hands. 

Really?  What’s his career drop rate? 
 

I’ll give you a hint, it’s around 3.6% which is better than guys like Julio Jones (4%) and Mike Evans (4.15%)

 

And considering that his targets are most likely "longer” than most WR’s in the league, it’s pretty impressive. 
 

If you want to say he has good hands with A+ ball tracking ability, I’m ok with that too. 

28 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  Like AR's message getting stale and the team seemingly mailing it in on the season?

 

 

That and promoting your o-line coach to be d.c.

30 minutes ago, Mandrake_1971 said:

Count me in the minority possibly, but I think Desean will be huge this year, he will be healthy. 

I dont know whose decision it was last year not to get surgery immediately, but I hope our medical team is improved.

BTW I think Carson's first press conf (incl timing) will be telling on how he feels on theJalen Hurts pick...

I think he'll be okay, I won't go huge but he'll be a contributor. I think Reagor will have more receiving yards then he will. 

2 minutes ago, greend said:

I think he'll be okay, I won't go huge but he'll be a contributor. I think Reagor will have more receiving yards then he will. 

I just don't see too many great outcomes from Desean playing a ton this year.  He's capable of highlight reel plays and blowing a game wide open (or getting you back into one).  I don't think that's going to be missing for Desean next year.  

As a bridge to the young guys adjusting to the NFL?  Perfect.

But if he surprises, plays 13-16 games with great numbers...then they are going to extend his deal and that's how we get burnt, Jeffery style.  That also means we aren't using our new additions much.

I want Desean to ensure a smooth transition, but transition is the key word.  We need to move on to the next generation of weapons.

33 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks seem to forget that DJax also gets separation from great route running and he has A+ hands.   If he’s healthy, I can see him playing well into his mid 30’s.  He’s not just a speed threat. 

Mid 30's...well 35 hits next year.  

Plays for us this year, isn't brought back.  Someone brings him in for one year in 2021, produces a bit, then out of the league in 2022.

Sounds fairly likely.  That would be mid 30's.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

LOL

So if DJax stays healthy, plays at least 13-14 games this year with decent numbers, will you be man enough to come back and eat crow? 
 

30 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Saying "we won a SB with a backup" or "we've gotten more out of the backup QB position than anyone" is expecting it to be able to happen again, IMO.

The Foles winning SB was literally out of nowhere featuring debate on whether or not Suds should start in the playoff.

I'm not ok using a 2nd round on a backup who will only help in gimmick plays or if your QB goes down during the twilight prime years of your best players currently.

 

How is saying what happened saying it will happen again?  Somebody won the lotto last night. Doesn’t mean I think it’s going to happen again. It’s just acknowledging reality

44 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Clear as mud. 

It is.   It is Howie saying that he is not going to identify what value they had for Lamb or what might have been asked.  He is saying look at the trades above us.   Some of us have and concluded a trade does not seem to have been value viable.  He has just drafted a first round WR too.  Why do anything to curb Reagor’s excitement of being an Eagles or his ego but entertaining any hard suggestions that he was our second choice.  He is basically saying he is not saying either way if he wanted Lamb  or not.  What he has said is he targeted two WRs in the first round, one was gone but the other is now an Eagle.  That target could have been Ruggs as easily as Lamb.  Rumor was the Eagles were working on the eleventh pick.  There is a chance there was a trade in place but as with any draft, the trade was contingent on whether the player the Eagles targeted was available or the player(s) the Jets targeted weren’t. The latter was not the case and one pick later, the Raiders picked Ruggs.  Howie isn’t going to reveal anything more.  Doesn’t mean reporters won’t ask. 

15 minutes ago, greend said:

That and promoting your o-line coach to be d.c.

It's hard to believe that that actually happened.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I just don't see too many great outcomes from Desean playing a ton this year.  He's capable of highlight reel plays and blowing a game wide open (or getting you back into one).  I don't think that's going to be missing for Desean next year.  

As a bridge to the young guys adjusting to the NFL?  Perfect.

But if he surprises, plays 13-16 games with great numbers...then they are going to extend his deal and that's how we get burnt, Jeffery style.  That also means we aren't using our new additions much.

I want Desean to ensure a smooth transition, but transition is the key word.  We need to move on to the next generation of weapons.

They can just bring him back for 2021. Doubt they latch their horse for too much longer considering his injury history even if he’s healthy all year

42 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks seem to forget that DJax also gets separation from great route running and he has A+ hands.   If he’s healthy, I can see him playing well into his mid 30’s.  He’s not just a speed threat. 

A+ hands?   Better than he was younger but still no better than A-