1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

In Round 4, getting Lynn Bowden isn't bad ROI.

FYP

34 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well I subscribe to Julia Child’s theory of a cup of a cup of wine for the meat and a cup for the dish, so I am a poor example.   The alcohol cooks off.  If you decide to try it, just buy a bottle of wine, stay away from cooking wines, although for Marsalis you may not have a choice.   Try a little red wine vinegar at some point in a sauce to give you an idea of the flavor.

I used to use Dr. Pepper in some sauces but not in a long time as High Fructose doesn’t cook as well as cane syrup.  Quit making Coca Cola cake for the same reason. 

Ive used red wine vinegar in cooking and dont mind the taste but when it comes to cooking with wine i wouldnt know where to start. When i was in highschool i had a career counselor take me to meet the executive chef at the local marriot hotel, he bought me lunch and talked to me told me he went to france just to study wine and that if i were serious about becoming a chef id have to learn about wine. It kind of turned me off of being a chef, years later and a whole life later i went back to culinary school and during my first semester my wife got unplanned pregnant, with twins😳 i had to take time off school and then we ended up moving away and i havent been back since due to life and not sure if its in the cards anymore, but i really enjoy talking about food and learning from others so thanks for the tips. If i were going to make like a mushroom sauce for pasta what kind of wine would one use???

38 minutes ago, Fhalbig22 said:

I’ve been watching Wentz’s rookie season on NFL game pass and I forgot how much I enjoyed watching Ryan Mathews run the ball, dude ran so hard and had enough wiggle to make some guys miss, it’s too bad his body just couldn’t handle it 

Yup always liked Ryan mathews he ran angry and was pretty explosive but his violent style of running didnt lend itself to longevity.

38 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Given that most people want the Eagles to draft 2 WR, who do folks want as the 2nd WR chosen?  I'm assuming this pick will come with one of the three 4th round picks.  My preference might be John Hightower, or Van Jefferson if he's still on the board in the 4th due to his foot issue discovered during Combine testing.

If for some reason the Eagles grab a WR late (5th/6th round) I would look for Quartney Davis or James Proche.

Really depends on who the first guy taken is. If they go with a Jefferson or Mims then they really need the next guy to have some speed. If the first pick is Jefferson that would mean I would probably think twice about doubling up with someone like Duvernay. Ideally I’d be happy with a Reagor and Duvernay/Van Jefferson combo or Justin Jefferson and Watkins/Hightower 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Howie ultimately is responsible. He’s supposed to make the picks based on the board set for him by Douglas and now Weidl. He allowed the process to get muddied.

To me, it all boils down to waiting until they were on the clock to debate the merits of two different WRs. Take everything out of it — medicals, fit, character, whatever — they should have had that decision made predraft. Instead, they were caught flat footed (again, if the report is to be believed). 

I didn't read it as them being caught flat footed.  I just thought McLane was pointing out how the decision to draft JJaw was based in large part on the problems with the Sidney Jones pick.  If Jones had played even OK in 2018, I think they would have gone with Metcalf.  It was a judgement between 3 players that wasn't unexpected.  They didn't have to make the decision until it was time.   So while they may be discussing their choices the entire time, until they know who is on the board they haven't made a decision.   There's also nothing wrong with uncertainty.  It's not like debate isn't healthy as long as it's not without reason.  Drafting isn't a science. 

34 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Who is the one player not projected to go round 1 you really want on the team?  Mine is Willie Gay Jr.

K’Von Wallace 

45 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

People were asking him to ask Carson for a donation.  

He said he notified him. 

I didn't remember the specifics. Just that someone asked him🤷‍♂️

Hard to picture that the Vikings would not be trading up for one of the big receivers... more than enough ammo to do it.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/4/22/21231051/2020-nfl-draft-philadelphia-eagles-trade-options-wide-receiver-minnesota-vikings-justin-jefferson-wr

 

1 minute ago, John_C said:

Hard to picture that the Vikings would not be trading up for one of the big receivers... more than enough ammo to do it.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/4/22/21231051/2020-nfl-draft-philadelphia-eagles-trade-options-wide-receiver-minnesota-vikings-justin-jefferson-wr

 

Maybe they trade up for CJ Henderson. I think CB is a bigger need for them right now.

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

FYP

Also true, but I think he goes Round 3.

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I didn't read it as them being caught flat footed.  I just thought McLane was pointing out how the decision to draft JJaw was based in large part on the problems with the Sidney Jones pick.  If Jones had played even OK in 2018, I think they would have gone with Metcalf.  It was a judgement between 3 players that wasn't unexpected.  They didn't have to make the decision until it was time.   So while they may be discussing their choices the entire time, until they know who is on the board they haven't made a decision.   There's also nothing wrong with uncertainty.  It's not like debate isn't healthy as long as it's not without reason.  Drafting isn't a science. 

Of course there’s uncertainty, which is why you take as much out of it as possible. You break up tiers before hand. If the most powerful person in the room likes WR X more than WR Z despite having a lower grade, discuss it. These are things that teams do before the draft. 

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Howie ultimately is responsible. He’s supposed to make the picks based on the board set for him by Douglas and now Weidl. He allowed the process to get muddied.

To me, it all boils down to waiting until they were on the clock to debate the merits of two different WRs. Take everything out of it — medicals, fit, character, whatever — they should have had that decision made predraft. Instead, they were caught flat footed (again, if the report is to be believed). 

So, to you this is the norm.  ok.

This is why I do not believe a trade up is feasible at all.  I mentioned this on the "old" boards several times.  There is no viable trade up partner, and the Eagles are low on resources to trade up.  When the DeForest Buckner trade happened, and the 49ers replaced the Colts, I said, wow, perfect trade partner in perfect range just fell into place.  Cost to trade up would be roughly pick 85, which the Eagles had... could always throw in another later pick and give the 49ers a clear "win" on the trade value chart.  Then the Eagles made the mover for Slay, and I didn't see much of a path for them to make a move.

 

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Who might be the best partners for a trade? Here’s where it gets tough. The chances of a small move up seem slim. Picking directly ahead of the Eagles are three teams with little reason to trade back. (And directly behind the Eagles and Vikings are the Patriots. More on that later.)

At 20 are the Jaguars, who also have the 9th overall pick and a 2nd, a 3rd, three 4ths, two 5ths, two 6ths, and a 7th. Moving back one spot, which would gain them a 4th, won’t appeal to them. With seven selections in rounds 4-6, they might even be looking to move up themselves.

At 19 are the Raiders, who also pick at 12 and have three 3rd rounders. Adding a 4th likely won’t appeal to them either, last year they had three 1sts but no 3rds and didn’t trade back on any of them. They are also in the market for a WR.

At 18 are the Dolphins, who have 14 draft picks, three of which are 1st rounders. This is a team not only with no need to move down, but that has reason to move up as 14 rookies is a lot to ask of a team.

It is possible that any of those three teams move up, and then the new team at that position is open to moving back again. In 2018 the Ravens moved from 16 to 22, then from 22 to 25. But that rarely happens. And of course this cuts both ways for the Eagles and Vikings, if teams don’t have much reason to trade back to 21, they also don’t have it to trade back to 22. Let’s keep going.

At 17 are the Cowboys, which normally would be out of the question. Howie Roseman has never traded with the Cowboys, and the last time the Eagles traded with the Cowboys on draft day was 2010. The Eagles spun one pick into Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, Mike Kafka, Clay Harbor, and Ricky Sapp. The Cowboys used the Eagles pick to take Sean Lee. Before that was the Kevin Kolb trade.

But if it comes down to trading with the Cowboys or letting the Vikings trade with them, the Eagles might need to disable video, the video chat equivalent of covering your eyes, and make the trade. Dallas has the usual seven selections, but with two 5ths and no 6th.

At 16 are the Falcons, who might do business. Thomas Dimitroff might be drafting for his job, which would normally be disincentive to trade back. However he only has six picks: one selection in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 7th rounds, and two 4ths. He’s a likely trade back candidate with the 2nd through 4th picks, but he should at least take calls on his 1st.

At 15 are the Broncos, who have 10 picks, three of which are 3rds. They’re in rebuilding mode, but they have a lot of picks and a triplet of ones they would be able to get to move back to 21. They could also looking at WR.

At 14 are the Buccaneers, who are in win now mode. Difficult to see them trading back to 21.

At 13 are the 49ers, who have two firsts but then nothing until the 5th round. They have made it clear they want to trade out of 13. The team to watch here might be the Patriots depending on how the QBs go. They have 12 picks: 23rd overall, three 3rds, two 4ths, a 5th, four 6ths and a 7th.

At 12 are the Raiders, who have no incentive to move back to 21 since they have 19, and need a WR.

At 11 are the Jets, who have 8 picks including two 3rds and are also in the market for a WR.

After that, you’re into the top 10, which will be a steep price.

 

 

5 minutes ago, John_C said:

Hard to picture that the Vikings would not be trading up for one of the big receivers... more than enough ammo to do it.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/4/22/21231051/2020-nfl-draft-philadelphia-eagles-trade-options-wide-receiver-minnesota-vikings-justin-jefferson-wr

 

That's what worries me about a trade-back at #21 if the Eagles are set on a WR.  They'd best not trade back far, because I could see the Vikings, Pats, Saints, and Packers all looking to draft a WR

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So, to you this is the norm.  ok.

Why on earth would you think that?

16 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Ive used red wine vinegar in cooking and dont mind the taste but when it comes to cooking with wine i wouldnt know where to start. When i was in highschool i had a career counselor take me to meet the executive chef at the local marriot hotel, he bought me lunch and talked to me told me he went to france just to study wine and that if i were serious about becoming a chef id have to learn about wine. It kind of turned me off of being a chef, years later and a whole life later i went back to culinary school and during my first semester my wife got unplanned pregnant, with twins😳 i had to take time off school and then we ended up moving away and i havent been back since due to life and not sure if its in the cards anymore, but i really enjoy talking about food and learning from others so thanks for the tips. If i were going to make like a mushroom sauce for pasta what kind of wine would one use???

There's layers of complexity to everything.   Home cooking is much simpler:  Cook what you like and what the people you cook for like.

 

I can't discuss the mushroom aspect, as I don't like them... but I will say, vinegar and wine will react differently in a red sauce.  Both release different flavor compounds from the tomatoes.  The answer to the question of cooking with wine (and I don't do a ton) is to keep it simple.  Red needs red.  So, the red sauce should have a decent red wine - not overly cheap stuff, and definitely not the super salty cooking wine out there in grocery stores.  A cabernet sauvignon is a traditional wine for red sauce.  Easily sourced as well.

 

 

Good luck.   

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Why on earth would you think that?

You used the word 'again'... as in 'this is a recurring theme'.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Given that most people want the Eagles to draft 2 WR, who do folks want as the 2nd WR chosen?  I'm assuming this pick will come with one of the three 4th round picks.  My preference might be John Hightower, or Van Jefferson if he's still on the board in the 4th due to his foot issue discovered during Combine testing.

If for some reason the Eagles grab a WR late (5th/6th round) I would look for Quartney Davis or James Proche.

I'm intrigued by WR/RB Antonio Gibson.  More of a build of a running back (6'0" 228 lbs), but ran a blazing 4.39 40 at the combine.  Seems like he could be a nice chess piece to use all over the formation (RB, FB, WR).  Also returns and covers kicks.  Could be great value if we get him in the 4th.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/antonio-gibson?id=32194749-4241-5285-a215-d633ff9a6f70

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2020/04/21/meet-memphis-rb-wr-antonio-gibson-the-most-explosive-player-in-the-2020-draft/

BWF guys posted their final mocks this morning on the Athletic. I'd be happy with Sheil or Berman's, don't like Wulf's (besides getting YGM in the 2nd):

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Kapadia’s full haul 

Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
K.J. Hamler, WR, Penn State
Jabari Zuniga, DE, Florida
K’Von Wallace, S, Clemson
Darnay Holmes, CB, UCLA
Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota
Keith Ismael, G/C, San Diego St.
Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn

Wulf’s full haul

Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
Saahdiq Charles, OL, LSU
Kenny Robinson, S, XFL
Tanner Muse, S/LB, Clemson
Dane Jackson, CB, Pittsburgh
Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech
Raymond Calais, RB, Louisiana

Berman’s full haul

Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
Curtis Weaver, DE, Boise State
Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas
Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
Geno Stone, S, Iowa
Jonah Jackson, OL, Ohio State
Dane Jackson, CB, Pittsburgh
Anthony McFarland Jr., RB, Maryland

 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You used the word 'again'... as in 'this is a recurring theme'.

No, I used the word "again” to make clear that once again I’m basing it off the report being an accurate representation of the JJAW pick.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

No, I used the word "again” to make clear that once again I’m basing it off the report being an accurate representation of the JJAW pick.

I see.  I thought the 'again' referred to the 'being caught flat-footed'.   NVM then.

 

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

I'm intrigued by WR/RB Antonio Gibson.  More of a build of a running back (6'0" 228 lbs), but ran a blazing 4.39 40 at the combine.  Seems like he could be a nice chess piece to use all over the formation (RB, FB, WR).  Also returns and covers kicks.  Could be great value if we get him in the 4th.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/antonio-gibson?id=32194749-4241-5285-a215-d633ff9a6f70

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2020/04/21/meet-memphis-rb-wr-antonio-gibson-the-most-explosive-player-in-the-2020-draft/

Intrigued is a good word for it -- he's an X factor in the truest sense.  Quite explosive and an interesting option at #127 if he makes it that far.  My only pause is that he's quite raw, and returns kickoffs but no experience returning punts in college.

I'm sure the Eagles would have more than a passive interest in him as a slot WR who can run jet sweeps, and just generally get him the ball in space.

56 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It was grade D on all of the meat.  It was stamped on all of the packages.  I mean at least it was inspected.  Knowing what I know now about meat processing plants I have more concerns about getting fast food chicken.  I think they are primarily selling parts from damaged birds.   Now, it might be fine or something happened in processing that just made them have to cut it for parts but I don't think you're getting the meat from completely healthy chickens.  

Why is steer away from ground beef I don’t watch being ground.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime