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13 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Desean comes back after basically playing one game last year. Reagor was a first round pick. Goodwin literally has olympic level speed and had 900 yards in 2017. He has two stud TE's, a young stud RB, etc. No more excuses for Carson. He needs to stay healthy for the entire season and playoffs and play like he did in 2017.

DeSean comes back but for how long?

Reagor is a 1st round pick but that doesnt mean he automatically will be good.

Goodwin is fast but if you're counting on him to be a big contributor then you're in trouble.

Point is....all these new guys just drafted are unknowns.  They might end up being good or not.  Chances are they wont make an impact right away.

If this WR group plays well and Carson doesnt then it's on him.  But if guys arent getting open and dropping passes like last year, then it's hard to blame Carson.

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11 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Could be a backup...it 2 or 3 years who can win a couple games, IMO, not worth a 2nd.

I would say w vet has a better chance of doing that and Carson could learn more from than Hurts or any QB taken, especially with a valuable pick.

This has much higher probability to bite them in the arse than turn out how they seem to think it will 

We’ll see I guess. Vets are expensive. I’d rather have the rook and the cash. 

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

Noooooo

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

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36 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

And here I was told we were saving money through picking a backup in the 2nd.

Even though he won't be the backup at all this year and Suds is getting, what, $2mil this season?

The "cost saving" argument being used to try to justify the move doesn't hold much water either.

Well, their real back up and stated heir apparent to Breeze, just signed for 21 million with 16 mill guaranteed.  So Winston is actually 3rd string and may not even be active on game day.  

15 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

DeSean comes back but for how long?

Reagor is a 1st round pick but that doesnt mean he automatically will be good.

Goodwin is fast but if you're counting on him to be a big contributor then you're in trouble.

Point is....all these new guys just drafted are unknowns.  They might end up being good or not.  Chances are they wont make an impact right away.

If this WR group plays well and Carson doesnt then it's on him.  But if guys arent getting open and dropping passes like last year, then it's hard to blame Carson.

There's not a QB in the NFL who would not have gotten a concussion from that cheap shot.

I'm more worried about the left side of the O line holding up

2 hours ago, TrotterIsGod said:

If the Eagles get healthy which I think they will , I'd be looking at the Rams, Falcons and Saints. But that's just me. 

 

 

Looking at them for what?  The Eagles were still better than 2 of those teams with their entire team injured, a group of tortoises running routes, and a complete inability to cover any decent WR.  

1 hour ago, obedt said:

I honestly believe this whole Carson’s psyche thing is being so overblown. If he’s going to QB my team, I need him to be mentally strong. 
 

If he isn’t, that’s a red flag. By all accounts, Wentz is mentally strong enough to handle it thankfully

The only ones not mentally strong are the fanboys here wringing their hands over a perceived threat to their idol.   There is no threat.  Hurts is the backup, end of story. 

23 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think any position in favor of bringing Jameis Winston in pretty much goes right to "Anything other than what we actually did is preferable to what we did" -- just to complain

Winston is dreadful

Eh...a guy who is 26, #1 overall pick talent, is a HIGHLY prolific passer even in the NFL, and has immaturity, interception, and decision-making problems?  That is not dreadful as a backup QB on a goo staff.

I’m sorry if this was already posted but I laughed hard. 
 

 

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Eh...a guy who is 26, #1 overall pick talent, is a HIGHLY prolific passer even in the NFL, and has immaturity, interception, and decision-making problems?  That is not dreadful as a backup QB on a goo staff.

talent is not the reason the eagles would never bring him here, culture and fit are the reason. The locker room chemistry is super important towards this teams success (look at how bad last year went). I dont know if Jameis has matured, if so, awesome, but if not, Howie would never bring him in the fold.

31 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

10 first round picks for OBJ

That is nuts, and I like Aiyuk probably more than anyone else in the Blog. 

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

10 first round picks for OBJ

Your missing the 4th string DT that's a TATE requirement to finish the deal. 

 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

That is nuts, and I like Aiyuk probably more than anyone else in the Blog. 

That's not true.  What is true is that they valued Kinlaw over Aiyuk and Lamb. They probably had Aiyuk and Lamb as 1st round players.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

That's not true.  What is true is that they valued Kinlaw over Aiyuk and Lamb. They probably had Aiyuk and Lamb as 1st round players.  

They said they were their two highest rated WRs. Are you saying they’re lying?

54 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The Hurts pick, WR speed injection, and LB speed injections have put the LT discussion all the way on the back burner.

The unknown here is vast.  Are the reports of major buyer's remorse with Dillard pure speculation, and they are happy to move forward with him as the LT?  Or did they literally try to trade their presumed starting LT and 2019 first round pick before the draft?

Is Dillard the unquestioned, or at least minimally questioned, starting LT?  Would anyone be that shocked if we saw a headline that they just signed Jason Peters back?  Does Mailata deserve to be in this conversation in some capacity?

Out of Dillard, Mailata, and Prince...I think an optimistic, but reasonable scenario is that they end up with one LT of the future, one quality backup OT, and one bust.  But Dillard is the only one on that list that has any meaningful chance of starting in the NFL this year.  

I wonder if Peters has been holding out a bit because he suspects that his best chance at starting for a playoff contender in 2020 is still here...

I usually refer to @justrelax for Oline opinions. I would be upset if they went back to Peters. Dillard looked good to me when he was playing while Peters was out. Is Mailata healthy? The first time I think the back injury was real. I think the second time it was just to stash him on IR so no one could get him

34 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

Yea but then he'd complain about getting the ball and also too busy fighting with the equipment

53 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

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9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

That's not true.  What is true is that they valued Kinlaw over Aiyuk and Lamb. They probably had Aiyuk and Lamb as 1st round players.  

I think if kinlaw wasn’t there they’d have gone aiyuk or traded back. Again the WR dropping worked out for us but the board with OT and kinlaw worked against us. 

59 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

At this point I would do whatever it took to trade for OBJ; put him, D-Jax, and Reagor out there together. Those 3 would be the fastest trio in the league and would be damn near un-coverable.

At this point I wouldn't trade for OBJ at all. D-Jax , Reagor and Whoever wins suit me just fine

34 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Well, their real back up and stated heir apparent to Breeze, just signed for 21 million with 16 mill guaranteed.  So Winston is actually 3rd string and may not even be active on game day.  

Sure, but my point is Suds is only making $2mil this year.

If they are some great developers of QBs, they wouldn't need to spend a 2nd and would have trusted Suds over McCown last year.

Now, if this was the same staff that won the SB, it would then make more sense as they actually DO have a track record of developing guys, Press Taylor? Not so much.

 

I don’t like the Hurts picks but it’s hard to judge them on developing QBs when we’re using guys like Sudfeld as examples. Sudfeld was a 6th round pick, Hurts is a 2nd rounder. 

1 hour ago, Allhaildawk said:

We’ll see I guess. Vets are expensive. I’d rather have the rook and the cash. 

Suds is making about the same as McCown. $2mil.

We have $20 mil in cap space.

A 2nd round pick is only making a shade under that.

Id rather have a guy actually playing on the field for the same money as Hurts is getting and signing a vet for $4 mil a season, double what Suds and McCown made is a drop in the bucket.

 

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