6 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Somewhere in an alternate universe, Eagles fans are scolding the Cowboys for drafting Jalen Hurts in the second round and praising Howie for successfully trading up for CeeDee Lamb.

Hearing the majority of Cowboys fans on sports radio I have little doubt more than 50% of them would be gleefully saying goodbye to Dak right now had they drafted Hurts.

11 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Because a second rounder should have a chance to be an immediate impact player for the team and help in the ensuing season. The same way Sanders was last season. If they made this pick in the 4th or 5th, I'd have no issue with it whatsoever. And it's the same issue for 2021 and after where the best case scenario for the team is that Hurts never sees the field other than his gimmick plays. 

The true value of Hurts won’t be seen in full effect year 1. It wasn’t for Dawkins, JJAW, Goedert, Sydney Jones, hardly any non-RB for us. That’s not the way the Eagles typically operate in the 2nd. If that’s your complaint, it goes way beyond just the Hurts pick. 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Hearing the majority of Cowboys fans on sports radio I have little doubt more than 50% of them would be gleefully saying goodbye to Dak right now had they drafted Hurts.

I'm not sure sports radio is a great way of polling fans' opinions. The most dramatic takes get on radio. 

It’s easy to see why Clement is a fan favorite but he hasn’t done anything the past two seasons. Still want them to sign a vet back. 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Yeah, I get that and I'm not a fan of it. It's not like Hurts has 4.3 speed like Lamar and can be a game-changer on any given play. And people need to stop using Hill as the precedent trying to justify the pick. Hill was an undrafted player who contributed on special teams and found a way to be incorporated in New Orleans' offense, not a second round pick. His value justifies his use. 

They ran this same gimmick crap with McNabb and Vick when Mornhingweg was here ten years ago, and go figure he's back on the staff and they want to run it again. They have one of the best red zone and third down quarterbacks in the league with Wentz, so I'm not a fan of him coming off the field in those situations to run some high school scheme and watch Hurts get stuffed on a 3rd and 3. 

If you watch how slippery he was at Oklahoma, especially at the LOS, I can see him making most guys miss on 3rd and 3.  Time will tell

It's going to be interesting to see how the preparation goes.  Let's spare the blog everyone's own COVID opinion and just break it down into options.  A season that is substantially delayed into October/November is basically a doomsday scenario for coaches and younger players.  The NFL will be desperate for cash flow and will want to start regular season games ASAP.  Forget about camps or preseason.  Under the assumption that there is a full season starting on-time or at least close to it:

Full camp and preseason: not happening.

Skip camp, start right with practices & preseason.  

Skip preseason, have a delayed, full training camp.  

Camp followed by shortened 1-2 game preseason.  Most likely?

In any of these scenarios...and especially considering our newfound youth...this isn't the year to abstain from the preseason for injury prevention like Doug usually does.  Cox, Graham, McLeod, Ertz, Sanders (he knows the offense, RBs are a constant injury risk) really have no need to be on the field.  While most of the OL has nothing to prove, you can't just pull them while Wentz and the young WRs work on timing and chemistry.  

So for what preseason games they do have, I think the top of the depth chart should be playing nearly a full half.  The second half should be key backups and guys with a reasonable shot at the team.  We don't need an entire 4th quarter full of guys who have 0 chance at making the team catching passes from a QB about to be cut.  

 

16 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

More likely to just block you like most people do

Go for it.  Feel free to elevate the conversation by removing yourself from it.

18 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Somewhere in an alternate universe, Eagles fans are scolding the Cowboys for drafting Jalen Hurts in the second round and praising Howie for successfully trading up for CeeDee Lamb.

While I have my problems with using #53 on Hurts, I actually prefer this universe.  I would not have been happy with a trade-up for CeeDee.  I think we'll be happier with Reagor.  

 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

It's going to be interesting to see how the preparation goes.  Let's spare the blog everyone's own COVID opinion and just break it down into options.  A season that is substantially delayed into October/November is basically a doomsday scenario for coaches and younger players.  The NFL will be desperate for cash flow and will want to start regular season games ASAP.  Forget about camps or preseason.  Under the assumption that there is a full season starting on-time or at least close to it:

Full camp and preseason: not happening.

Skip camp, start right with practices & preseason.  

Skip preseason, have a delayed, full training camp.  

Camp followed by shortened 1-2 game preseason.  Most likely?

In any of these scenarios...and especially considering our newfound youth...this isn't the year to abstain from the preseason for injury prevention like Doug usually does.  Cox, Graham, McLeod, Ertz, Sanders (he knows the offense, RBs are a constant injury risk) really have no need to be on the field.  While most of the OL has nothing to prove, you can't just pull them while Wentz and the young WRs work on timing and chemistry.  

So for what preseason games they do have, I think the top of the depth chart should be playing nearly a full half.  The second half should be key backups and guys with a reasonable shot at the team.  We don't need an entire 4th quarter full of guys who have 0 chance at making the team catching passes from a QB about to be cut.  

 

I think we could have camp/shortened preseason and a full season.. MLB is talking about games starting July 4th.

2 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

 

Curry was good down the stretch, but I’d prefer we go with the youngsters. 

Would love for the Eagles to do something like this...

And kudos to the Colts for sharing it and kudos to Reich and the front office for discussing Pittman-Taylor before the draft instead of, you know, when they were on the clock. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*If McLane’s report was true. 

2 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

 

This one, I find odd.

The Eagles seem to have a problem with up front starting talent at DE, not necessarily depth, which includes Sweat, Miller (4th rounder), Avery (traded 4th rounder), 2019 Nate Ilaoa winner Ostman, 2019 Preseason Reggie White imitator Hall, and their most recent late pick Toohill.  

I wouldn't pencil any of those guys in for a pro-bowl, but that IS quite a bit of depth, many of whom have some upside.  I suppose Curry represents insurance and a known entity in an offseason of uncertainty.   

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Curry was good down the stretch, but I’d prefer we go with the youngsters. 

Agreed.  He may come into camp/preseason as insurance and not make the final 53 though.  It feels a little harsh to cut someone who has spent many, many years with the team unceremoniously after bringing them in for a camp only...and that would be out of character for them lately.  But if the Eagles FO can do anything, it can zig when history suggests a zag.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This one, I find odd.

The Eagles seem to have a problem with up front starting talent at DE, not necessarily depth, which includes Sweat, Miller (4th rounder), Avery (traded 4th rounder), 2019 Nate Ilaoa winner Ostman, 2019 Preseason Reggie White imitator Hall, and their most recent late pick Toohill.  

I wouldn't pencil any of those guys in for a pro-bowl, but that IS quite a bit of depth, many of whom have some upside.  I suppose Curry represents insurance and a known entity in an offseason of uncertainty.   

Worst case scenario Curry gets cut, that means these other guys showed something. But none of the depth guys really have shown anything. Sweat looks good here and there. 

35 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

He’s not going to be holding a clipboard, though.  He will have a package of plays — maybe only 2-3 per game, maybe 4-6 plays to make the defense account for him and game plan for him.  Where he differs from Taysom Hill is that Hill is only a gadget #3 QB.  Teddy Bridgewater stepped in and kept the Saints season on track.

Hurts will be the guy entrusted to step in and play QB in addition to being a weapon X/joker 

And none of that makes any sense.

So you're going to chance your backup QB gets injured while doing gadget plays and is supposed to be backing up the QB you're worried will get injured anyways?

 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This one, I find odd.

The Eagles seem to have a problem with up front starting talent at DE, not necessarily depth, which includes Sweat, Miller (4th rounder), Avery (traded 4th rounder), 2019 Nate Ilaoa winner Ostman, 2019 Preseason Reggie White imitator Hall, and their most recent late pick Toohill.  

I wouldn't pencil any of those guys in for a pro-bowl, but that IS quite a bit of depth, many of whom have some upside.  I suppose Curry represents insurance and a known entity in an offseason of uncertainty.   

It feels like they're just throwing stuff against the wall at DE to see what sticks. It reminds me of corner last year where they're just trying to figure it out along the way. The good part is that they're deep at DT with Cox, Hargrave, Jackson, and Ridgeway so that should help. But I don't feel confident about any DE this year. Graham a year older, Barnett being average and not living up to a first, Sweat showed promise last year so I'd like to see him get more snaps, and who knows with Miller and Avery. 

26 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hearing the majority of Cowboys fans on sports radio I have little doubt more than 50% of them would be gleefully saying goodbye to Dak right now had they drafted Hurts.

Great for them. 

Dak is nowhere near Wentz level.

Them being happy over the pick would make a ton more sense than us.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This one, I find odd.

The Eagles seem to have a problem with up front starting talent at DE, not necessarily depth, which includes Sweat, Miller (4th rounder), Avery (traded 4th rounder), 2019 Nate Ilaoa winner Ostman, 2019 Preseason Reggie White imitator Hall, and their most recent late pick Toohill.  

I wouldn't pencil any of those guys in for a pro-bowl, but that IS quite a bit of depth, many of whom have some upside.  I suppose Curry represents insurance and a known entity in an offseason of uncertainty.   

Hall probably won’t be ready and will be on PUP. I’m also not counting on Miller or Ostman for anything just yet.

10 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

And non of that makes any sense.

So you're going to chance your backup QB gets injured while doing gadget plays and 8s supposed to be backing up the QB you're worried will get injured anyways?

 

My biggest issue with this is Mornhinweg being a part of the staff. People act like he's some sort of gimmick guru because he was in Baltimore with Jackson, but that offense looked very average his rookie year and Jackson didn't turn into what he was until Roman was named OC. I didn't like the hire at the time and I dislike it even more now given that it seems like they want to go with this gimmick crap. I don't know how much of Doug's ear he had for this pick, but I don't like the strategy. 

52 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

In fairness, it's not like you're the silent majority on this.  

Am I then a silent minor or a loudmouth major? Or perhaps a loudmouth minor? There are plenty of loudmouths here other than myself if that I be.Whiners too, which I am not.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

Man get Hightower a bow tie and an air banjo and he can do his Dhani Jones impression.

3 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Am I then a silent minor or a loudmouth major? Or perhaps a loudmouth minor? There are plenty of loudmouths here other than myself if that I be.Whiners too, which I am not.

You've been known to whine about whining.

7 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My biggest issue with this is Mornhinweg being a part of the staff. People act like he's some sort of gimmick guru because he was in Baltimore with Jackson, but that offense looked very average his rookie year and Jackson didn't turn into what he was until Roman was hired. I didn't like the hire at the time and I dislike it even more now given that it seems like they want to go with this gimmick crap. I don't know how much of Doug's ear he had for this pick, but I don't like the strategy. 

He's a guy who was in the building who knows what Roman did though.

That's the key to the whole thing.

Never been a Marty fan, but as long as he's been in the league he's certainly not a bad guy to bounce things off of or to pick through the myriad of systems and regimes he's been in.

Herm Edwards has been doing similar things with his staff by bringing in "consultants" and such of the NFL level for coaches to utilize.

I see Marty more of that mold than a major decider on how stuff will go down.

5 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My biggest issue with this is Mornhinweg being a part of the staff. People act like he's some sort of gimmick guru because he was in Baltimore with Jackson, but that offense looked very average his rookie year and Jackson didn't turn into what he was until Roman was named OC. I didn't like the hire at the time and I dislike it even more now given that it seems like they want to go with this gimmick crap. I don't know how much of Doug's ear he had for this pick, but I don't like the strategy. 

If I remember correctly I think Marty Got demoted to another coaching position and then he was let go. So he’s not the brains behind the operation down in Baltimore. 

Most of the improvement year to year is the guys already on the roster, not the draft.

Maybe a 1st rd pick starts at some point, maybe a couple other guys break into a rotation.

The guys on the roster:

Sudfeld - don't want to use Hurts as the backup QB until at least the end of the season if not until 2021-22

Scott - build on last year's finish

Ward - build on last year's finish

JJAW - find your college mojo and be the big possession WR who is a red zone monster

Goedert - step out of Ertz's shadow and be an elite all around TE

Mailata - take that next step

Dillard - get stronger and play like a 1st rd pick

Opeta, Pryor  - win a job, not get one by default

Sweat - turn that athleticism into production

Barnett - go from being a starter to a star

Avery - become that threat from the Elephant position

Rush, Ridgeway - go from the end of the roster to pushing for a big role and a new contract

Riley - take the starting job

Edwards - show enough instincts to compensate for pedistrian speed and be a solid MLB

Jones - time to step up and be an above average outside corner

Maddox - find a spot to shine, I think FS is his best position

Mills - show you have the instincts to play safety

How many of these guys step up, not #53, will determine how far this team goes this season