If the Eagles want anything from Marty regarding Lamar's success and how it may translate for a package with Hurts, they're not thinking he was the brains of the operation. They would be interested in the experience he has of being in the room during all those meetings- discussing what has worked and what isn't. How defenses are playing them. That said, I don't think the Marty hire has anything to do with Lamar's success and how it may relate to Jalen. Marty is an experienced offensive coach who knows Doug. It's just another voice and opinion.

5 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

He's a guy who was in the building who knows what Roman did though.

That's the key to the whole thing.

Never been a Marty fan, but as long as he's been in the league he's certainly not a bad guy to bounce things off of or to pick through the myriad of systems and regimes he's been in.

Not really. Marty was Baltimore's OC in 2018 while Roman was a tight ends coach. Marty left after that and Roman was named OC and went on to do a great job with Jackson last season while Marty was sitting on his couch. Either way, Hurts isn't near the athlete that Lamar is. 

15 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Not really. Marty was Baltimore's OC in 2018 while Roman was a tight ends coach. Marty left after that and Roman was named OC and went on to do a great job with Jackson last season while Marty was sitting on his couch. Either way, Hurts isn't near the athlete that Lamar is. 

Ah, thank you for the correction so I got nothing then.

Few are that athletic.

😅

11 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I agree, a number is their identity and howe we pretty much see them.  There are good numbers, bad numbers and of course their numbers could change after final cuts.  As it's been discussed there aren't a lot of numbers left for our new WR.

Reagor- 18 his old college number

Hurts- 2 his Bama number

Taylor- 48 good undersized linebacker number since 40s are allowed

Wallace- 42 (I think Clement comes back and 30 is his) I love 42 as a safety number

Driscoll- 70 he's not getting his college number 71

Hightower- 13 really all that's left until we trim some WR

Bradley- 46 another modern LB number, considered 52 but that's left for Toohill  

Watkins- 82 I like this number on WR but if he sticks he will go back to the teens

Prince- 72 great LT number

Toohill- 52 gets his college number LB/DE tweeners are good in the 50s

I'll give it a shot, although I like/agree with most of these.

Reagor - 18

Hurts - 2

Taylor - 48

Wallace - 42

Driscoll - 75

Hightower - 

Bradley - 56

Watkins - 

Prince - 72

Toohill - 52

Goodwin - 82

The Eagles need to cut two players to be able to sign their undrafted free agents, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of 14, 16, 80, or 83 become available which are currently occupied by Davis, Burnett, Michel, and Gibson

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

I want Killins on this team. He can contribute with some runs, passes and return as well. He’s no Pumphrey 

Id very much like to have him on the team but its realistically going to be an uphill battle to supplant Scott since he is established here for a few years now and actually became a big contributor last season. Ideally, Killins makes it as a return specialist and can stick that way as RB4 who gets a few touches a game on offense. 

Just now, austinfan said:

Most of the improvement year to year is the guys already on the roster, not the draft.

Maybe a 1st rd pick starts at some point, maybe a couple other guys break into a rotation.

The guys on the roster:

Sudfeld - don't want to use Hurts as the backup QB until at least the end of the season if not until 2021-22

Scott - build on last year's finish

Ward - build on last year's finish

JJAW - find your college mojo and be the big possession WR who is a red zone monster

Goedert - step out of Ertz's shadow and be an elite all around TE

Mailata - take that next step

Dillard - get stronger and play like a 1st rd pick

Opeta, Pryor  - win a job, not get one by default

Sweat - turn that athleticism into production

Barnett - go from being a starter to a star

Avery - become that threat from the Elephant position

Rush, Ridgeway - go from the end of the roster to pushing for a big role and a new contract

Riley - take the starting job

Edwards - show enough instincts to compensate for pedistrian speed and be a solid MLB

Jones - time to step up and be an above average outside corner

Maddox - find a spot to shine, I think FS is his best position

Mills - show you have the instincts to play safety

How many of these guys step up, not #53, will determine how far this team goes this season

 

I hate your posts, respect your politeness and relentless rationale, but I love this one.

You are right; to look at things more rigidly than your post, the #1 cause for improvement or regression is often your 2nd year draft class.  Of course, there are other young players who factor into that...plus Slay and Hargrave, who are going to make a big difference.  

Of the names you mention:

Sudfeld: we are in trouble if he has a chance to show his improvements.

Scott: agreed 100%

Ward: he's a safety net for the WR additions.  He's a reliable set of hands for check downs.  If he has too much opportunity to build on last year, it reflects bigger problems.  Ward will not develop into the answer to any question we want to ask.

JJAW: see above.  If the other speed guys catch on, he can find a niche as a big, physical compliment.  If we ask him to be a full time X, it's going to be a problem.  

Goedert: I don't think we should be looking to our #2 TE for more targets and production than we are already getting.  Can Goedert get better?  Sure.  But this offense really has other problems if we are looking for even more from him.  I'm part of the underground rogue opinion that Goedert should be our #1 TE in 2021 though.

Mailata/Dillard: No idea what's going on here.  But Peters set a lower bar at LT last year than anyone is willing to admit.  Additionally, the backup OT situation hurt the Eagles last year.  So this is a definite opportunity to take meaningful steps beyond last year's team.

Opeta, Pryor: We (knock on wood) have not called upon our interior OL depth in a very long time.  So while I hope these guys make strides, we are taking a step back if we witness those strides in the regular season.  I have confidence in Pryor though.

Sweat: he's a major target for improving the rotation.  It's time for him to become a rotational threat.

Barnett: don't hold your breath.  Star was never on the table for him.  He is what he is.

Avery: still holding out hope.  But a guy that couldn't dress for Cleveland or for our anemic rotation last year, even on short notice, probably isn't changing the complexion of our 2020 defense in any way.  He's probably the #4 DE and is a stand-up rusher in some 3rd down packages unless someone else surprises or is added.  So he'll get his chance.  I don't expect much.

Rush/Ridgeway: DT is stacked right now and will already be better than 2019.  They just won't be the reason for it.

Riley - Duke Riley?  Is he even going to make the team?  Put Nate Gerry's name there instead.  

Edwards - yup.  I think he's going to be the 3rd LB who will play 33% of the snaps and part of a surprisingly good LB corps this year.

Jones/Maddox: I think one of them, if Schwartz doesn't screw them up, just might turn into a good #2 CB opposite Slay.  While Jones has been theatrically horrible at times, he actually showed some really good things in coverage late last year.  That wasn't enough for Schwartz to keep him on the field to build on it though.  And I agree that Maddox fits best at FS.  That's where he has played best in the NFL.  But Schwartz isn't going to do it.  But I expect that CB spot to be better than it was last year.

Mills: I am in the extreme minority in thinking that he'll be better in that role than Jenkins.  

 

The most important name off that list is Sanders.  I hate drafting RBs in round two...and I believe in trading all stud RBs to the highest bidder when they have 1 year left on their rookie or 2nd deals.  That's a debate I'll start in a few years to get everyone riled up.  But for 2020?  This is Sanders time to shine.  He was already a good starter by the end of his rookie year.  Now it's time to be a star that defenses account for on every play.  He's going to be good enough for everyone to call me a lunatic when I say I want to trade him for a 1st and 2nd round pick in 2023.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont like the move. Its been time to move on from Clement's injuries. Ill feel bad cutting an eagles fan playing for his team living his dream. But you just can not keep him on the team and see a guy like Scott and/or Warren go elsewhere only to watch Clement get injured again. I dont like the thought of that, and I also dont like the idea of treating him as a camp body. 

I'm sure he has to prove he's healthy to stick.  It's a prove it deal, it's no commitment.

Can we start a charity GoFundme for a footrace race between Desean, Reagor, Miles, Watkins, Hightower, Goodwin, and Tate for us fans?

I'd throw money to see that.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm sure he has to prove he's healthy to stick.  It's a prove it deal, it's no commitment.

He can prove he is healthy. Then get injured again, which is likely. So, not interested in keeping him.

1 minute ago, PrinceKelby said:

Can we start a charity GoFundme for a footrace race between Desean, Reagor, Miles, Watkins, Hightower, Goodwin, and Tate for us fans?

I'd throw money to see that.

Don't forget Killins, who might actually win it.  Scott is worth mentioning.  

I like Miles Sanders as much as the next guy, but he has no place in that race.  

As I posted before, I'd prefer a 4x100 relay with 4 teams:

More proven football players: Scott/Slay/Reagor/Jackson

Lottery tickets: Killins/Hightower/Watkins/Goodwin

Linebackers: Gerry/Bradley/Jatavis Brown/Taylor

The reasons we got faster:  Douglas/Alshon/JJAW/Ward

1st and 2nd I'm not so sure about.  I know who gets the bronze and who misses the podium.

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Don't forget Killins, who might actually win it.  Scott is worth mentioning.  

I like Miles Sanders as much as the next guy, but he has no place in that race.  

As I posted before, I'd prefer a 4x100 relay with 4 teams:

More proven football players: Scott/Slay/Reagor/Jackson

Lottery tickets: Killins/Hightower/Watkins/Goodwin

Linebackers: Gerry/Bradley/Jatavis Brown/Taylor

The reasons we got faster:  Douglas/Alshon/JJAW/Ward

1st and 2nd I'm not so sure about.  I know who gets the bronze and who misses the podium.

Damn it! I knew I was missing someone!!

Thank you.

Yes, definitely need Killins in their too.

JJAW has taken a beating in here, and deservedly so, but people are throwing dirt on him far too quickly. He might not be E45’s cup of tea as a prospect, but he’s not without talent. 

59 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My biggest issue with this is Mornhinweg being a part of the staff. People act like he's some sort of gimmick guru because he was in Baltimore with Jackson, but that offense looked very average his rookie year and Jackson didn't turn into what he was until Roman was named OC. I didn't like the hire at the time and I dislike it even more now given that it seems like they want to go with this gimmick crap. I don't know how much of Doug's ear he had for this pick, but I don't like the strategy. 

As i thought about it, i think the first place Hurts sees the field is in 2pt conversion packages

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

JJAW has taken a beating in here, and deservedly so, but people are throwing dirt on him far too quickly. He might not be E45’s cup of tea as a prospect, but he’s not without talent. 

Yea but his draft picture 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

JJAW has taken a beating in here, and deservedly so, but people are throwing dirt on him far too quickly. He might not be E45’s cup of tea as a prospect, but he’s not without talent. 

I've got a plan for him.  

First of all, he's slow.  No doubt about it.  He's slow to get downfield, he's slow in his routes, and he's got slow feet.  That's not changing.  That's not what you want in a starter on offense, even at X, even if your other guys are burners.

But he has good strong hands, uses his body well, and goes after the football.  So he could be useful in the red zone and in the slot, like Jordan Matthews.  

Without diving head first into a Zach Ertz debate, say that he's gone in 2021 and Goedert is the primary TE.  We mostly go with 11 personnel with lots of very fast WRs.  In the red zone...even as a complement between the 20s...those routes that Ertz always runs from the slot in 12 personnel could be JJAWs for the taking.  

 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea but his draft picture 

he was happy. can you believe that punk smiling when he held up his jersey?! bust.

Your obsession with moving Ertz is moronic

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Your obsession with moving Ertz is moronic

Obsession?  Might be a little too sensitive to the subject.

Zach Ertz is going to have 900 yards, 8-10TDs, and a trip to the pro-bowl this year.  Put it in the bank.  

2021 is the year.  He'll have had 3 consecutive 90+ catch seasons.  He'll be 31.  That's the year he falls off.  He won't be walking for a mega-deal in FA that nets you a nice comp pick.  

If you trade him after 2020, you can get a 2nd round pick in return.  

After 2021, you are losing one of Goedert or Ertz either way.  Might as well keep the younger guy AND get a 2nd round pick for the simple cost of moving Ertz one year early.

 

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

JJAW has taken a beating in here, and deservedly so, but people are throwing dirt on him far too quickly. He might not be E45’s cup of tea as a prospect, but he’s not without talent. 

I go back and forth on throwing in the towel. On the one hand, he’s got good size, body control, and supposedly his hands are good.

On the other hand he’s slow, lacks quickness/agility, and despite being big seems functionally weak.

I’m not totally convinced he is all that talented. Hightower, for my money, has more talent.

Just now, TEW said:

I go back and forth on throwing in the towel. On the one hand, he’s got good size, body control, and supposedly his hands are good.

On the other hand he’s slow, lacks quickness/agility, and despite being big seems functionally weak.

I’m not totally convinced he is all that talented. Hightower, for my money, has more talent.

I think he's talented in that he has good ball skills. That's an actual skill. How valuable is that skill? Well...

1 minute ago, TEW said:

I go back and forth on throwing in the towel. On the one hand, he’s got good size, body control, and supposedly his hands are good.

On the other hand he’s slow, lacks quickness/agility, and despite being big seems functionally weak.

I’m not totally convinced he is all that talented. Hightower, for my money, has more talent.

hightower is a beauty, and I think hes definitely faster than his 4.43 time at the combine.

I really just want all the fast guys to make it. If they stink, theyre better than sucky slow guys. Give these fast guys a chance and see what you need to do next year if you need to still add to it. 

 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

I think he's talented in that he has good ball skills. That's an actual skill. How valuable is that skill? Well...

He did at the collegiate level. I’m not sure he has good ball skills at the NFL level. The whole "basketball player going up for a rebound” thing only works if you physically overwhelm the defender. I haven’t seen him do that in the NFL.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

hightower is a beauty, and I think hes definitely faster than his 4.43 time at the combine.

I really just want all the fast guys to make it. If they stink, theyre better than sucky slow guys. Give these fast guys a chance and see what you need to do next year if you need to still add to it. 

 

I’m not sure he’s faster than his combine time since he gained weight, which he really needed to do any way since he was a string bean. I was impressed with his time, considering he was like 15 pounds above his listed weight. 

Just now, TEW said:

He did at the collegiate level. I’m not sure he has good ball skills at the NFL level. The whole "basketball player going up for a rebound” thing only works if you physically overwhelm the defender. I haven’t seen him do that in the NFL.

About the only time he showed good ball skills was that over the wrong shoulder catch vs the Giants. 

It was a bad rookie year, no getting around it. Let’s see what happens this year. If he doesn’t make a big jump, he’s gone.