I really liked the Dillard pick, but if they bring back Peters it’s all for nothing. 

13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He had a neck injury! Lol and this team has had so many problems with injuries it's not surprising they passed on him

His point is... that's a medical thing.  When the medical people say 'no', then you either listen to them, or get new medical people.

 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

His point is... that's a medical thing.  When the medical people say 'no', then you either listen to them, or get new medical people.

His point is... that's a medical thing.  When the medical people say 'no', then you either listen to them, or get new medical people.

I wasn't arguing against that

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I wasn't arguing against that

Only point being, the person who he replied to was blaming Howie and Douglas.  It really wasn't their decision.  They listened to their medical people.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Only point being, the person who he replied to was blaming Howie and Douglas.  It really wasn't their decision.  They listened to their medical people.  

I didn't think I was arguing either way. Howie was right to pass on him. Neck injury was a huge risk that we really couldn't take the chance on. Maybe if we hadn't been so riddled with injuries over the years they may have taken a chance

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

There are just so many that may be 1st rounders it seems like there are enough 1st round WRs to last in to the 3rd. Its insane. 

 

@ghor? @meatmcginley?

 

Ummm...is he in the matrix???

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

 

The only choice. 

 

27 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I said before this was a mediocre draft except for a few players.  Every player the Eagles drafted has something they need to work on to become better players.

Reagor. Drops, including concentration drops.  He took plays off when the ball wasn’t coming to him at TCU.  Can’t be a deep threat when taking a play off. He has trouble blocking air.  
Hurts.  Progression reading.  Mechanics.  Note Foles had a long wind up too.

Taylor.  Getting off blocks.  Raw.

Wallace   Needs work on FS play and first step in deeper routes is slow.

Driscoll  Needs to get stronger 

Hightower   Needs to get stronger   Basket (body) catcher.  Wentz throws high sometimes, basket catching doesn’t work with that.  Needs to snatch the ball. Press deficiency  

Bradley  Instincts, or really the lack thereof.

Watkins  Route running  Needs to improves his cuts.  Just running fast at one speed doesn’t get you open in the NFL.  Needs feints, jukes etc.  Basket catcher.  Easier to break up passes to basket catchers 

Wanogho  Still raw.  Needs to seriously work on hands and arms placement.  Punch needs improvement.

Toohill   To play in Schwartz’s D, you have to play the run.  As a pass rusher, he is a bit like Hall was coming from A&M   Fastball with no pass rush moves   He needs a lot of polishing  

 

 

 

Can you list the positive side now

19 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I didn't think I was arguing either way. Howie was right to pass on him. Neck injury was a huge risk that we really couldn't take the chance on. Maybe if we hadn't been so riddled with injuries over the years they may have taken a chance

I wasn't either.  

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Y'know, Sweat was a massive disappointment for the Redskins last year. I read their message board from time to time and their fans thought he was a waste.

If we ever had a rookie DE hit 7 sacks, we’d be crowning him Reggie White 2.0.

35 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I said before this was a mediocre draft except for a few players.  Every player the Eagles drafted has something they need to work on to become better players.

Reagor. Drops, including concentration drops.  He took plays off when the ball wasn’t coming to him at TCU.  Can’t be a deep threat when taking a play off. He has trouble blocking air.  
Hurts.  Progression reading.  Mechanics.  Note Foles had a long wind up too.

Taylor.  Getting off blocks.  Raw.

Wallace   Needs work on FS play and first step in deeper routes is slow.

Driscoll  Needs to get stronger 

Hightower   Needs to get stronger   Basket (body) catcher.  Wentz throws high sometimes, basket catching doesn’t work with that.  Needs to snatch the ball. Press deficiency  

Bradley  Instincts, or really the lack thereof.

Watkins  Route running  Needs to improves his cuts.  Just running fast at one speed doesn’t get you open in the NFL.  Needs feints, jukes etc.  Basket catcher.  Easier to break up passes to basket catchers 

Wanogho  Still raw.  Needs to seriously work on hands and arms placement.  Punch needs improvement.

Toohill   To play in Schwartz’s D, you have to play the run.  As a pass rusher, he is a bit like Hall was coming from A&M   Fastball with no pass rush moves   He needs a lot of polishing  

 

 

 

Most rookies are going to come in with flaws.  There is no such thing as a perfect prospect.  I'm not thrilled with the draft.  I like Reagor.  I think where they really lose value is Hurts and Taylor.  The rest of the draft there were no reaches, they filled needs and brought in fantastic athletes.  Time will tell how they develop and if they can grow as players and fix the things that you mentioned.

At the time of the draft it's a C+  but if these players develop it could be an A very quick.  

41 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Why let JP walk in March if you don't believe in Dillard? What changed in the last month? 

 

Peters market value 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I wasn't either.  

My mistake.

43 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Why let JP walk in March if you don't believe in Dillard? What changed in the last month? 

 

Well, he’ll come cheaper now that he sees that no team in the nfl is interested in his fat out of shape 3 quarter per game a** besides, theoretically, us.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If we ever had a rookie DE hit 7 sacks, we’d be crowning him Reggie White 2.0.

Barnett had six his rookie year and people thought he was bad. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Most rookies are going to come in with flaws.  There is no such thing as a perfect prospect.  I'm not thrilled with the draft.  I like Reagor.  I think where they really lose value is Hurts and Taylor.  The rest of the draft there were no reaches, they filled needs and brought in fantastic athletes.  Time will tell how they develop and if they can grow as players and fix the things that you mentioned.

At the time of the draft it's a C+  but if these players develop it could be an A very quick.  

All rookies have flaws.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Barnett had six his rookie year and people thought he was bad. 

5.  He’s not bad.  He’s just the Jordan Matthews of DEs.

Yup.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

All rookies have flaws.

That can't be true.  I'm pretty sure I read that CeeDee Lamb was a sure fire HoFer, or at least based on the outrage, it sounded like that.

13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

5.  He’s not bad.  He’s just the Jordan Matthews of DEs.

He had a big one in the playoffs too...

To those who say the 40 doesn’t matter, the Vikings GM on Jefferson...

"The biggest thing that lifted him up in this process – was you seen good speed on tape and after the catch, but when he went and ran in the 4.4s at the Combine, that went and elevated his status even more.”

Just now, ManuManu said:

He had a big one in the playoffs too...

He was unblocked on that strip sack.  Not taking it away from him, but if his shining moment is an unblocked sack, he’s got work to do.

Just now, ManuManu said:

To those who say the 40 doesn’t matter, the Vikings GM on Jefferson...

"The biggest thing that lifted him up in this process – was you seen good speed on tape and after the catch, but when he went and ran in the 4.4s at the Combine, that went and elevated his status even more.”

Literally the first person I’ve heard say anything close to that