4 minutes ago, Godfather said:

It would be worth a trade up 2 or 3 spots to get him

Without doubt. I just don't see him falling though. 

Well nice to see everything up and in time for the draft.

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I don't see the urgency to give away a significant amount of draft capital to trade up for one of the top three.  A talented WR with skills that complement the existing group of receivers can be had somewhere between 21 and 53.

I went back and looked at the past 10 Probowl rosters.  The only WRs on SB winning teams were Tyreek Hill and Greg Jennings.  Only three more played in the SB - Julio, Demaryius, and Welker. (the year they were selected)

With the dearth of young talent on defense, giving away valuable picks would, IMO, be a mistake.

I have spoken.

I’d also add to this argument 

top 2 WRs taken last year: brown and harry

guys taken after them: Samuel, brown, metcalf, mclaurin, slayton, hardman and renfroe all had as good or better seasons. 

the opposite kind of happened in 2018 

Top 2: Moore and Ridley 

guys taken after: Sutton, Kirk, miller and chark (still good but Moore was the best) 

2017 top 3: williams, davis and ross 

outside of top 3: juju, kupp, Godwin, galloday, Dede westbrook and Curtis Samuel 

my point is top 2 or 3 guys doesn’t always mean better or more success than guys later  rather not give up the farm to get one when history recently hasn’t been kind to the top guys taken. And really i don’t think any are can’t miss prospects like an aj green and julio class 

 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Without doubt. I just don't see him falling though. 

If any wr falls, I can see it being him with the recent knee reports

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Nah, more like this....

 

Well he said they were booing in his dreams

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

my point is top 2 or 3 guys doesn’t always mean better or more success than guys later  rather not give up the farm to get one when history recently hasn’t been kind to the top guys taken  

Which is a really good point. But if we say there's what... The top 3 then Jefferson then Reagor, Aiyuk, Mims, Shenault... They will all be gone before we pick at #53. Shenault may be there but I wouldn't want him. 

 

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Which is a really good point. But if we say there's what... The top 3 then Jefferson then Reagor, Aiyuk, Mims, Shenault... They will all be gone before we pick at #53. Shenault may be there but I wouldn't want him. 

I love shenault. If the kid left after his sophomore season he’s the first wr taken last year and likely inside the top 15. He should’ve left If he could. Frankly if he didn’t have the core muscle injury he’s likely in consideration for a top 25 pick. Talent to me isn’t the issue with him it’s durability. 

im about moving back and getting an extra pick. Then moving up in the second round if we really want to get a Second WR. I think if you move back into the 26-29 range I think you’ll get one of mims, aiyuk or reagor. If i get one of them i then be ok if they dealt up to get someone like shenault 

1 hour ago, John_C said:

Agreed.  I like this guy, and think he could be a contributor as a running back and special teamer.

Also like the Kentucky QB/WR who also could be a return guy.

Either would be great 4th round picks....

I like Gibson more than Bowden.   Both are tinker toys but I like the fit better for Gibson.  That said, we would need another back but I see Gibson more as a receiver than RB anyway.

I wasn't against Shenault until his injury came out before the combine. I wouldn't be mad if he's picked in the 2nd rd. Dude looks like a freak. I've seen him torch my SC team more then once 

Just now, BigEFly said:

I like Gibson more than Bowden.   Both are tinker toys but I like the fit better for Gibson.  That said, we would need another back but I see Gibson more as a receiver than RB anyway.

I’m in agreement. I like gibson more. I think he has a chance to be a deebo Samuel type player. That’s really who he reminds me of but i think he might possess better speed but not as polished coming out of Memphis. 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I love shenault. If the kid left after his junior season he’s the first wr taken last year and likely inside the top 15. He should’ve left. Frankly if he didn’t have the core muscle injury he’s likely in consideration for a top 25 pick. Talent to me isn’t the issue with him it’s durability. 

im about moving back and getting an extra pick. Then moving up in the second round if we really want to get a Second WR. I think if you move back into the 26-29 range I think you’ll get one of mims, aiyuk or reagor. If i get one of them i then be ok if they dealt up to get someone like shenault 

This is my dream scenario. If we could move back a little in the first and grab Mims or Reagor (I wouldn't want to take Aiyuk that high) and then use some of that ammo to move up for Shenault in the second, I wouldn't care how the rest of the draft went. I absolutely don't think this would ever happen and I doubt they'd take Shenault anyway with all the talk about injury from Howie, but a man can dream.

Do we see any of the running backs going in round 1?  What if one of Swift or Taylor are there at 53?  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I love shenault. If the kid left after his junior season he’s the first wr taken last year and likely inside the top 15. He should’ve left. Frankly if he didn’t have the core muscle injury he’s likely in consideration for a top 25 pick. Talent to me isn’t the issue with him it’s durability. 

im about moving back and getting an extra pick. Then moving up in the second round if we really want to get a Second WR. I think if you move back into the 26-29 range I think you’ll get one of mims, aiyuk or reagor. If i get one of them i then be ok if they dealt up to get someone like shenault 

Shenault was a junior this past season, so this is the soonest he could come out.  If he's there past #45 (which I doubt) you start making calls to move up. 

19 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I miss my Civil War history lessons.

Well, some small nuggets. Judson Kilpatrick was a brigadier general of cavalry in Sherman's Army. He was known as "Kill-cavalry" for his penchant of charging infantry positions with mounted troopers. Not good. He was particularly bad at Second Bull Run (aka Second Manassas). During Sherman's March through Georgia, Kilpatrick travelled with an entourage that included at least one mistress, possibly more.

George Armstrong Custer, something of a hero in the Civil War, was killed with his men near the Little Bighorn River in 1871, IIRC. The traditional depiction of his last stand is one of his men forming a circle, surrounded by thousands of Sioux and Cheyenne. Not the case. They were basically chased and cut down in small numbers over an extended period of time and space. Major Reno, who was with a separate detachment, spent the battle staggering around drunk on brandy, with a small cask under his arm. He survived the battle on dumb luck.

Major General Joseph Hooker was a heavy drinker and womanizer. He would throw parties for his friends and staff, attended by um, ladies of the evening. This is the most favored of the theories for the origin of the work "hooker" to mean prostitute. Hooker was sacked as commander of the Army of the Potomac three days before the Battle of Gettysburg, when his army was already on the move to follow Lee. He was replaced by George G. Meade who, when awakened at 3:00 a.m. on June 28th to be apprised of his promotion, thought at first that he was being arrested.

I would not be happy with Shenault as our first WR pick this year. 

1 hour ago, purplefiggy said:

With mushrooms, you could go a whole lot of different ways Depending on what you want out of your final flavor profile. If just the mushrooms alone, I might recommend either a cognac or even a bourbon. 

 

but let’s say you were doing a chicken with mushrooms or even a mushroom risotto, you can go with a Sauvignon blanc or a dry Riesling and end up very happy. 

Ssshhh. My wife can’t know that you can cook with Sauvignon blanc.  She loves her dry whites, except Sauvignon blanc, which is my favorite white.  In other words, she keeps her hands off of my Sauvignon Blancs like she does off my Cabs, Pinot Noirs, Etc.   (She is not a lover of oaked reds like me.). 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Shenault was a junior this past season, so this is the soonest he could come out.  If he's there past #45 (which I doubt) you start making calls to move up. 

I think he goes around 35-40 range. I could see the colts going after him. 

sorry i meant sophomore year if he could he should’ve. He was phenomenal his sophomore year. And he was much better prospect than brown. 

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Do we see any of the running backs going in round 1?  What if one of Swift or Taylor are there at 53?  

I'm 50/50 on it. Wouldn't surprise me if none are taken and also wouldn't surprise me if Swift goes late first.

8 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I wasn't against Shenault until his injury came out before the combine. I wouldn't be mad if he's picked in the 2nd rd. Dude looks like a freak. I've seen him torch my SC team more then once 

He’s a better WR imo than aiyuk. I know coaches at Arizona have told me such. They feared him more than Aiyuk. Not that they thought aiyuk was a cakewalk just that they thought shenault was much better. The kid had played on 3 different offense and 3 different OCs in 3 years. He was productive this year playing through injuries. If you put him on ASU i think he has better numbers than aiyuk. The fact Colorado has had poor talent around him and less than stellar coaching. To me it’s all about durability with him. 

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Ssshhh. My wife can’t know that you can cook with Sauvignon blanc.  She loves her dry whites, except Sauvignon blanc, which is my favorite white.  In other words, she keeps her hands off of my Sauvignon Blancs like she does off my Cabs, Pinot Noirs, Etc.   (She is not a lover of oaked reds like me.). 

Sauvignon Blanc is my favorite too.   Not so much any oaked wines.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He’s a better WR imo than aiyuk. I know coaches at Arizona have told me such. They feared him more than Aiyuk. Not that they thought aiyuk was a cakewalk just that they thought shenault was much better. The kid had played on 3 different offense and 3 different OCs in 3 years. He was productive this year playing through injuries. If you put him on ASU i think he has better numbers than aiyuk. The fact Colorado has had poor talent around him and less than stellar coaching. To me it’s all about durability with him. 

I'm not a fan of Aiyuk. Don't care for him

I think we'd all be surprised if they didn't add 2 WRs with meaningful picks in this draft.  There is important nuance of the types of WRs they add.  I don't care for the logic that the WRs are so bad we just need to find good players and they'll be a great improvement.  

This offensive arsenal needs diversity.  In addition to a deep threat, they really could use someone who excels with the ball in their hands.  With respect to Sanders and Scott, this offense really doesn't have a single weapon that you would want to design a handful of plays to just get the ball into their hands in space.  That needs to change.  

Brunellos are my favorite.  Used to hate them too.  Tastes change.  

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Well he said they were booing in his dreams

Yeah I know, just having fun. 

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

I'm not a fan of Aiyuk. Don't care for him

I don’t dislike aiyuk. I dislike that somehow he’s gotten up to early 20s. I think there’s a lot of agholor to his move up where people want to love him more than they should. To me he’s a second round guy that people are vaulting into the first cause they are building up the WR class. Also my personal belief is people around the nfl love herm Edwards so when they talk to herm, they respect his opinion and view him more highly.