3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

What’s the best sports book you’ve ever read?

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/SMHB Mental Health INterventions.pdf

20 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Ya, 60,000 deaths in 8 weeks with the entire country shut down is showing its "overblown".

Should have just stayed open.

🤦🏻‍♂️

It was the right call at first but there was never an organized plan. I couldn’t tell you what the right course of action should have been but it’s getting to the point where people are going to do what they want. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Newsflash... 

No one is social distancing today. This whole pandemic is looking more and more overdramatized. 
 

That’s all. 

243,000 deaths confirmed worldwide.

67,000 deaths confirmed in the US, with the vast majority coming over the last month and a half while social distancing has taken place.

Please though, tell us all how this is being overdramatized. Better yet, tell that to the families of the 243,000 people who have died from this over the last few months 

29 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Have you actually read through Gov. Wolf's reopen plan?  So many questions come up once you read it.  This isn't intended to be political, I think it's important for ALL PA residents to read through.  So much doesn't make sense.  I'm NOT taking away from the severity of the virus or all the of hard work from the frontline first responders (several on here, sincerely we all thank you).  However there are far too many items that don't line up.  County coroners questioning deaths, rise in opioid related deaths, suicide, domestic abuse..the list goes on.

https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/?fbclid=IwAR2KxYzBumgrNqYHrF-TjUomjAnZevzAzthQ4wOLAwKqfaKrlgJXTkHskfI

 

This is from Phase 3...green light. 

Fair, family-sustaining wages for all Pennsylvanians.

Increase the minimum wage to $12 with a path to $15.  (Never let a good crisis go to waste is the saying.  So you want restaurants and local businesses to open up with new social distancing rules reducing the amount of paying customers, yet you want the business owners who just sacrificed 2 months of revenue to pay more for less.  OK, makes a lot of sense there Tom.)

Enactment of better worker protection standards.

Employees should not be discharged, penalized, or discriminated against if they isolate or quarantine related to COVID-19. (Why not just do that now?  If you choose to isolate so be it.  You won't be fired, you won't be fined or doct any pay, it's just your decision based on what makes you feel safe.  For the rest who feel safe and want to go to work, want to go to a restaurant, a ball game, the beach, church or any other event let them.)  

Employers must maintain safe and healthy environments.

Protections should also exist for employees who report workplace violations.

This whole thing will be debated for years. It’ll be similar to Vietnam. 

23 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Ya, 60,000 deaths in 8 weeks with the entire country shut down is showing its "overblown".

Should have just stayed open.

🤦🏻‍♂️

If there is one lesson I hope people learn from all of this, it's to think before they start running their mouths. 66,905 confirmed deaths in the US over the last two months while social distancing has taken place. Totally overblown though. You can't even make up this type of ignorance. 

Just now, T-1000 said:

243,000 deaths confirmed worldwide.

67,000 deaths confirmed in the US, with the vast majority coming over the last month and a half while social distancing has taken place.

Please though, tell us all how this is being overdramatized. Better yet, tell that to the families of the 243,000 people who have died from this over the last few months 

Or how about the 33 million who are directly effected by unemployment. That’s not counting their family members. You don’t think that causes problems? It’s ignorant to think if you don’t directly die from the virus then you’re OK... 

We’ll never know what exactly the right course of action was but it’s not unjust to question decision makers. 

Just now, T-1000 said:

243,000 deaths confirmed worldwide.

67,000 deaths confirmed in the US, with the vast majority coming over the last month and a half while social distancing has taken place.

Please though, tell us all how this is being overdramatized. Better yet, tell that to the families of the 243,000 people who have died from this over the last few months 

I think if you look at the big picture and break things down reasonably you can see why some might think that.  In PA alone, almost 60% of the deaths are in nursing homes  NYC is a hotspot...well look at how many people come in from all over and the extreme close proximity in the city.  We've all heard Dr. Birx say it, any death being recorded now even if just signs of Covid are present are being counted as being CAUSED by Covid.  This tells me right away that the numbers are going to be exaggerated. Our own county coroners are now saying the same thing.

Governor Wolf keeps changing things, moving the goal posts they say.  Nothing is consistent.  The color coded county map makes no sense.  You can work in Cumberland County but live in York County.  Cumberland could open while York is closed.  So go to work in an open county and sleep in the closed one?  

I don't think anyone is saying forget about those families affected by a death.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

Or how about the 33 million who are directly effected by unemployment. That’s not counting their family members. You don’t think that causes problems? It’s ignorant to think if you don’t directly die from the virus then you’re OK... 

We’ll never know what exactly the right course of action was but it’s not unjust to question decision makers. 

Two or three people have called you out for your factually incorrect and ignorant statement. Rather than admit that you were clearly mininformed and being dramatic, you are going to double down with this money BS. Money is going to be really important when hundreds of thousands of people are dead. If not for social distancing deaths would easily be doubled or tripled by now and rising exponentially by the day. Let me guess, small price to pay to keep our economy strong. I have zero time for people like you who prioritize money to this level where the value of human life is significantly minimized. Quite honestly, I feel sorry for you.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think if you look at the big picture and break things down reasonably you can see why some might think that.  In PA alone, almost 60% of the deaths are in nursing homes  NYC is a hotspot...well look at how many people come in from all over and the extreme close proximity in the city.  We've all heard Dr. Birx say it, any death being recorded now even if just signs of Covid are present are being counted as being CAUSED by Covid.  This tells me right away that the numbers are going to be exaggerated. Our own county coroners are now saying the same thing.

Governor Wolf keeps changing things, moving the goal posts they say.  Nothing is consistent.  The color coded county map makes no sense.  You can work in Cumberland County but live in York County.  Cumberland could open while York is closed.  So go to work in an open county and sleep in the closed one?  

I don't think anyone is saying forget about those families affected by a death.

If people are willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives so our lives can be convenient again and the economy can bounce back as soon as possible, then yes they are doing just that. Prioritizing the economy and our cushy lives over life itself under the false pretense that this is all overblown is a massive F you to the millions who have seen their lives destroyed by this.

Just now, T-1000 said:

Two or three people have called you out for your factually incorrect and ignorant statement. Rather than admit that you were clearly mininformed and being dramatic, you are going to double down with this money BS. Money is going to be really important when hundreds of thousands of people are dead. If not for social distancing deaths would easily be doubled or tripled by now and rising exponentially by the day. Let me guess, small price to pay to keep our economy strong. I have zero time for people like you who prioritize money to this level where the value of human life is significantly minimized. Quite honestly, I feel sorry for you.

Right on. "We’re all in this together”... I’m sure you’re all about that slogan. 

 

I haven’t received a paycheck or dollar of unemployment in 7 weeks but excuse my ignorance...  We’ll never know the right thing to do and at first the social distancing was the wise, safe move. However, for it to still be going on this long I think is unnecessary. You can spin that into me not caring about people dying. I don’t Fuuckkin care. 

 

But yeah I am healthy and other people have it way worse than me. 

 

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

If people are willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives so our lives can be convenient again and the economy can bounce back as soon as possible, then yes they are doing just that. Prioritizing the economy and our cushy lives over life itself under the false pretense that this is all overblown is a massive F you to the millions who have seen their lives destroyed by this.

Again, I'm not discrediting or taking away from anyone that has lost a loved one.  What we need to do is look at things with a level head and say OK, 33 million people and counting have lost their jobs.  Millions of those people have shut down their own businesses because the Governors said to.  Businesses that they have saved, worked for and poured their lives in to are now in trouble of never opening back up.  Business owners unable to afford to pay for the building they occupy, the employees they have.  The same small businesses who offer the same services that folks are going to box stores for.  There is absolutely no reason for small businesses to be closed when you drive by Lowe's and Wal-Mart and it looks like Black Friday.  If local businesses were open it would actually promote social distancing because we all wouldn't have to go to the same stores!  

Again, listen to your county coroners.  Suicides, opioid related deaths, domestic violence are all on the uptick.  In Cumberland County this month there were more suicide deaths than Covid deaths.  I guarantee you that trend only grows.  

This whole situation sucks.  No one wants to see people get sick from a virus and die.  Just like no one wants to see someone get cancer, HIV, the flu, hit by a drunk driver.  

We also don't want to see our friends and families lives go in to ruins all at the hands of Governor Wolf.  He alone can change the entire outlook of this virus.  

Anyone have heating/ac system like this?

Im curious how you like it, and if you remember how much it cost to buy and have installed. Thinking about doing this. 

Spoke to one company that said something like $12,000. Hard to believe when you can buy this kit for like $3,100.

 

2 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

 

I really thought he was gonna be the patriots QB. I wonder what theyre going to do at QB. 

2 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

 

Not shocking at all. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Anyone have heating/ac system like this?

Im curious how you like it, and if you remember how much it cost to buy and have installed. Thinking about doing this. 

Spoke to one company that said something like $12,000. Hard to believe when you can buy this kit for like $3,100.

ductless heat pump. provides heating and cooling. energy efficent. depending on the model wont provide heat whem tempature reaches minus 15 C 

system work best in an open comcept home. typically bedrooms require a back up heat source.

ducted varities are usually more expensive to install bit heat/ cool all rooms.

12k would be the price for a ducted system up here. Typically 2500-4000 will buy and install  the ductless system. 

make sure to have the compressor sized for the square footage. too small it wont heat but to large its less energy efficent. 

thats all i got 

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Again, listen to your county coroners.  Suicides, opioid related deaths, domestic violence are all on the uptick.  In Cumberland County this month there were more suicide deaths than Covid deaths.  I guarantee you that trend only grows.  

And I guarantee you that if, god forbid, we ever surpass our ventilator/ICU capacity those deaths will be a drop in the bucket. We're at about 70% where I am right now with fairly aggressive lockdown measures. We learned the lesson the hard way on reopening too early back in 1918. 

Signing Dalton makes sense for Dallas, but he's way bigger competition for Dak than Hurts is for Wentz.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

And I guarantee you that if, god forbid, we ever surpass our ventilator/ICU capacity those deaths will be a drop in the bucket. We're at about 70% where I am right now with fairly aggressive lockdown measures. We learned the lesson the hard way on reopening too early back in 1918. 

The goal of the initial lockdown was to "flatten the curve" make sure the hospitals weren't overrun and equipment not available.  Where you are with 70" being used there are other counties with zero being used.  I would hope that counties and hospitals IF we get to that scenario will get equipment in the right hands.

This isn't 1918 in terms of technology, medication available (different things are working for different patients and whatnot.)  

2 minutes ago, In2football said:

ductless heat pump. provides heating and cooling. energy efficent. depending on the model wont provide heat whem tempature reaches minus 15 C 

system work best in an open comcept home. typically bedrooms require a back up heat source.

ducted varities are usually more expensive to install bit heat/ cool all rooms.

12k would be the price for a ducted system up here. Typically 2500-4000 will buy and install  the ductless system. 

make sure to have the compressor sized for the square footage. too small it wont heat but to large its less energy efficent. 

thats all i got 

thats pretty helpful. I like the 2500-4000 price range. Thats doable. 12,000 for ductless is not.

We have a coal stove and cleaned up the finished half of our basement 2 weeks ago. Its such a pain, and to think its going to get like that again in the winder is hard to come to grips with. 

 

Good info on the 15C ambient temp thing. That could be a big problem. Ill have to look for that information on the unit we might end up buying and make sure its capable in colder weather. But I hope that feature isnt something that ends up driving the price of this project out of our price range. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thats pretty helpful. I like the 2500-4000 price range. Thats doable. 12,000 for ductless is not.

We have a coal stove and cleaned up the finished half of our basement 2 weeks ago. Its such a pain, and to think its going to get like that again in the winder is hard to come to grips with. 

 

Good info on the 15C ambient temp thing. That could be a big problem. Ill have to look for that information on the unit we might end up buying and make sure its capable in colder weather. But I hope that feature isnt something that ends up driving the price of this project out of our price range. 

it shouldnt. the tempature ranges have been imrpoving on them. the range is -15C to -20 c quick conversion and thats 4to -5 F. 

wind chill doesnt effect it so ifs actual temptures

Just now, bpac55 said:

The goal of the initial lockdown was to "flatten the curve" make sure the hospitals weren't overrun and equipment not available.  Where you are with 70" being used there are other counties with zero being used.  I would hope that counties and hospitals IF we get to that scenario will get equipment in the right hands.

This isn't 1918 in terms of technology, medication available (different things are working for different patients and whatnot.)  

What hospitals on the planet are using 0% of their ventilator capacities? That's not how it works even outside of a pandemic. And currently we're in state-to-state and even state-to-federal pissing matches over testing kits and masks, so how in the hell do you have faith that allocating ventilators appropriately will be some kind smooth operation? 

And for all our technology we don't have a vaccine, any effective medication treatments (anecdotal BS about the various medications to "treat" coronavirus have largely been shown to be nonsense), and the mortality rate of patients requiring intervention like intubation is still abysmal.   If you think a second wave of infections due to reopening prematurely doesn't have the capacity to be even more deadly than the initial one I'd say you don't understand epidemiology.

1 minute ago, In2football said:

it shouldnt. the tempature ranges have been imrpoving on them. the range is -15C to -20 c quick conversion and thats 4to -5 F. 

wind chill doesnt effect it so ifs actual temptures

Yeah I read something about ambient temp so I realized no wind chill. 5 degrees farenheit is pretty rare here as a high temp, but does happen at night occasionally each winter. 

Theres one Im looking at though that says -4F which would seem pretty acceptable. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah I read something about ambient temp so I realized no wind chill. 5 degrees farenheit is pretty rare here as a high temp, but does happen at night occasionally each winter. 

Theres one Im looking at though that says -4F which would seem pretty acceptable. 

North of the border Fujitsu is one of the more highly recommended brand names.

not sure about down there. installion is very simple and hvac/ plumber can do it

Good move for Dallas. Dalton is a damn good backup.