5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm interested to see what Hightower and Watkins bring to the table.  Very similar players in my mind.  I would love to see the Eagles let the best WR play rather than assigned positions.  If Reagor outplays JJAW and can handle the X.  Let him.

Also interested to see who comes out on top for the Eagles with the slot corner.  Is NBC the automatic there?  Does LeBlanc put up a fight?  Going to need them to dominate to stop teams like the Cowboys.  Cole Beasley was a thorn in our side for years, nervous to see what CeeDee will do with Dallas and Jefferson with the Vikings.  

If I am Dallas, I am very nervous about my secondary versus the Eagles offense.  I am also nervous that Lamb turns out to be Crabtree.  

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

 I am also nervous that Lamb turns out to be Crabtree.  

Crabtree was a good player. He just was never elite. Lamb becoming Crabtree is still a win for Dallas.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Remaining Free Agents

EDGE

Jadeveon Clowney, Everson Griffen, Cameron Wake, Jabaal Sheard, Ezekiel Ansah,  Markus Golden, Vinny Curry, Clay Matthews, Terrell Suggs, Michael Bennett, Anthony Chickillo, Dion Jordan, Pernell McPhee

CB

Darqueze Dennard, Logan Ryan, Price Amukamara, Eli Apple, Dre Kirkpatrick, Tramon Williams, Tramaine Brock, Javien Elliott, Trumaine Johnson, Brandon Carr, Aqib Talib, Morris Clayborn, BW Webb, Ross Cockrell, Aaron Colvin

Safety

Eric Reid, Reshad Jones, Tony Jefferson, Tavon Wilson, Clayton Geathers, Morgan Burnett, Tedric Thompson, Jahleel Addae, Antoine Bethea, Curtis Riley, Montae Nicholson

DT

Damon Harrison, Mike Daniels, Marcell Dareus, Antwuan Woods, Adam Gotsis, Xavier Williams, Domata Peko, Corey Liuget, Damion Square, Sylvester Williams, Kyle Love, Earl Mitchell

Linebacker

Nigel Bradham, Darron Lee, Mychal Kendricks, Alec Ogletree, Wesley Woodyard, Mark Barron, Vontaze Burfict

RB

Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Lesean McCoy, Ty Montgomery, Isaiah Crowell, Theo RIddick, Devontae Booker, Spencer Ware, Frank Gore

WR

Taylor Gabriel, Demaryius Thomas, Paul Richardson, Jermaine Kearse, Tavon Austin, Jarius Wright, Jaron Brown, Dontrelle Inman, Chris Hogan

TE

Delanie Walker, Jordan Reed, Luke Stocker, Charles Clay, Ed Dickson, 

OT

Kelvin Beachum, Demar Dotson, Jason Peters, Cordy Glenn, Jared Veldheer, Jordan Mills, Marshall Newhouse, Donald Penn

G/C

Josh Kline, Mike Person, Justin Britt, Ronald Leary, James Hurst, Daniel Kilgore

 

Probably more than a few I'm missing but had to cut it off somewhere.  Lots of talent still there in the secondary and along the DL.

Wow we could still improve our CB2 in FA.

56 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm interested to see what Hightower and Watkins bring to the table.  Very similar players in my mind. 

I think where Hightower probably gets the edge is that he looks like a pretty good kick returner. 

One aspect of the Eagles draft that hasn't been mentioned is that they potentially upgraded both return positions, which was a significant need as their return game has been pretty pedestrian the past few years. Reagor can do punts. Hightower (assuming he's dressed) can do kickoffs. Still need to see how it plays out, but this could be a big boost.

2 hours ago, BigEFly said:

 

As far as a living wage is concerned, raising the minimum wage in this Commonwealth is not a horrible idea as so many of the people are living paycheck to paycheck and had no cushion to fall back on when this happened.  So as a long term Recovery aspiration, is that a bad idea?

It actually is a horrible idea bc it puts another headwind into businesses, especially smaller ones

it falsely assumes people will save the additional income, which evidence would say is incorrect. It will also keep more unemployed

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm interested to see what Hightower and Watkins bring to the table.  Very similar players in my mind.  I would love to see the Eagles let the best WR play rather than assigned positions.  If Reagor outplays JJAW and can handle the X.  Let him.

Also interested to see who comes out on top for the Eagles with the slot corner.  Is NBC the automatic there?  Does LeBlanc put up a fight?  Going to need them to dominate to stop teams like the Cowboys.  Cole Beasley was a thorn in our side for years, nervous to see what CeeDee will do with Dallas and Jefferson with the Vikings.  

Hightower should make the team well over Watkins, IMO. He'll make it over Ward too.

He'll be a good WR 3/4 for several years IMO

14 minutes ago, goeagles5039 said:

Wow we could still improve our CB2 in FA.

Id take a run at Ryan and see what he wants i think he can play outside but has versatile experience we like

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Quez is third. 

one more reason to like quez. Hes not as physically strong as those to but hes faster and a little more strength could go along way for him

9 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Hightower should make the team well over Watkins, IMO. He'll make it over Ward too.

He'll be a good WR 3/4 for several years IMO

I like both ward and watkins over hightower. Hightower is a string bean who struggles at the catch point and watkins is bigger and faster and ward is a better route runner than both with better hands than both and also has 4.4 speed so...

14 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

It actually is a horrible idea bc it puts another headwind into businesses, especially smaller ones

it falsely assumes people will save the additional income, which evidence would say is incorrect. It will also keep more unemployed

People dont save additional income they spend it which stimulates the economy. 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I like both ward and watkins over hightower. Hightower is a string bean who struggles at the catch point and watkins is bigger and faster and ward is a better route runner than both with better hands than both and also has 4.4 speed so...

Hightower is an inch taller and almost 10 pounds heavier. Also played against better competition.

Lol

I like Quez and Ward, but Hightower is a way better deep threat than both.

Quez 40 time does not show up on tape as much as Hightower does.

Hightower will be more what he hoped Agholor would be.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

People dont save additional income they spend it which stimulates the economy. 

Only the small fraction that get to work. And that wasnt his argument. he claimed they would save

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

The heart risk for hydroxycloroquine makes it a poor offer to a lot of at risk patients.   I am not relying on website crap.  Try reading NIH abstracts instead.  

Or read the actual paper instead of the abstract.

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

It actually is a horrible idea bc it puts another headwind into businesses, especially smaller ones

it falsely assumes people will save the additional income, which evidence would say is incorrect. It will also keep more unemployed

Let’s put $12 into perspective.  I worked my way through college in a grocery store.  I was full time and had reached to highest grade hourly rate at $10.60 an hour when I graduated in 1980.  So consider that from an inflation index view perspective.  Minimum wage in 2020 has not kept pace.   There certainly is an argument as to the salary pool and how it would be impacted by a higher minimum.  But there is also an indication that the pandemic impacted mortality rates, not just from Covid 19 but also from the vulnerability of those on the lower end of the scale.  

Let me ask you this.   Would you object to a maximum wage?  One could argue high executive salaries and stock options puts another headwind into businesses. How about a German model that requires worker representation on corporate boards or an Iceland model that requires diversity in sexes on corporate boards.  Both would likely improve salary distribution and corporate policies based on what they have demonstrated   Would you oppose Medicare for All, which takes the burden of rising healthcare costs from companies providing healthcare? There is an argument that Medicare for All would increase the salary pool substantially.  I pay for my own health insurance.  Two visits a year on average for my spouse and me to the doctor and my blood pressure medicine that costs less than my doctor visit a year.   My health insurance with a high deductible that hasn’t been met in a decade would cost a person making $12 an hour almost half their pay.  

A lot of people pay more than $1,000 a month on housing.  That’s half the pay of a person making $12 an hour.  A car with insurance and gas to get to that job a $12 an hour?  

Yep.  Paying people a wage below poverty level is a horrible idea.  

18 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I like both ward and watkins over hightower. Hightower is a string bean who struggles at the catch point and watkins is bigger and faster and ward is a better route runner than both with better hands than both and also has 4.4 speed so...

I don’t like Watkins over Hightower.  Hightower has more moves and quickness than Watkins and a bit more refined route tree.  

Just now, BigEFly said:

I don’t like Watkins over Hightower.  Hightower has more moves and quickness than Watkins and a bit more refined route tree.  

That may be true but Watkins is a better catcher. Hightower is seen as a body catcher. 

14 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Only the small fraction that get to work. And that wasnt his argument. he claimed they would save

I claimed that at $15 they could save.  Might take a long time for a two month cushion but they could probably put something away each year. 

I'm supposed to get riled up reading about Jason Peters and slow receivers on the blog, not medicare for all.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm supposed to get riled up reading about Jason Peters and slow receivers on the blog, not medicare for all.

Chris Simms said he would have traded back and taken Claypool at the end of the 1st over Reagor.

Hopefully that will make you chuckle as it did me, even though I know you liked Claypool.

Just now, PrinceKelby said:

Chris Simms said he would have traded back and taken Claypool at the end of the 1st over Reagor.

Hopefully that will make you chuckle as it did me.

I actually like Claypool a lot.  That opinion is somewhat validated by a team like the Steelers taking him.  But Chris Simms is nuts.  

Claypool will never get open the way that Reagor will.  We'd be in trouble if Claypool was our primary addition to the WR position.  

I'd have been happy with Claypool at 53, but he wasn't there.  Late first/early 2nd...no way.

1 minute ago, PrinceKelby said:

Chris Simms said he would have traded back and taken Claypool at the end of the 1st over Reagor.

Hopefully that will make you chuckle as it did me.

Seems he's as bad a talent evaluator as he was an NFL QB.  👍

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That may be true but Watkins is a better catcher. Hightower is seen as a body catcher. 

So is Watkins.  That’s a bit of a misuse of body catcher.  A true body catcher actually catches into the body.  They pull the ball into the body and use the torso to help catch the ball. Both do that some. But they most are basket catchers. Both tend to extend their arms outward and make a basket with their hands and forearms to catch the ball.  Both basket catching and body catching are much easier to defend than hand catching. Ward, JJAW, Jeffery, DJax and Reagor are all hand catchers.  Both Hightower and Watkins can sometimes hand catch. I saw more from Hightower than Watkins but neither use it as their catching style on longer throws. 

And as much as I liked Claypool...Goodwin, Hightower, and Watkins all figure to separate better than he ever will.

I generally favor getting the better prospect higher in the draft...but Goodwin/Hightower/Watkins, collectively, cost the Eagles the equivalent of a very, very late 4th round pick.

Even with our history at that position...if you throw together that kind of raw speed in a competition with 3 chances, I'm hopeful the emerging winner just might be a better, more dangerous WR than a lot of the guys who went in round 2.

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm supposed to get riled up reading about Jason Peters and slow receivers on the blog, not medicare for all.

Sorry.  I am not a huge fan of it and I brought it up.  

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

So is Watkins.  That’s a bit of a misuse of body catcher.  A true body catcher actually catches into the body.  They pull the ball into the body and use the torso to help catch the ball. Both do that some. But they most are basket catchers. Both tend to extend their arms outward and make a basket with their hands and forearms to catch the ball.  Both basket catching and body catching are much easier to defend than hand catching. Ward, JJAW, Jeffery, DJax and Reagor are all hand catchers.  Both Hightower and Watkins can sometimes hand catch. I saw more from Hightower than Watkins but neither use it as their catching style on longer throws. 

Right. 

Both are viewed that way but Hightowers gauntlet made him look anything but.

He has 2 high hard outside throws that he caught on stride with ease.

Those are the toughest catches to make.

Watkins tape does not show that kind of 40 time speed. 

I like both, but Watkins has a bigger uphill battle IMO.