4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

If you were just trying to clear up facts then why the rolling laughing faces???

You were trying to prove me wrong and your self right? Mission accomplished give your self a gold star but lets not pretend you were on some epic quest to reveal truth for the sake of truth 

One can accomplish that without trying to do so by attempting to make others feel less than.

Good job though ill stick by the original claim that watkins is faster at pretty much the same size.

Because you kept fighting reality when multiple people literally gave you the link to the NFL’s official combine results. And your explanation was that the NFL somehow confused his actual weigh in at the combine they hosted with a weigh in over a month later at an event they have nothing to do with that didn’t even happen. Come on dude, it’s funny!  

11 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I am sure you believe this. But Hightower's combine weight was 189, not 172. Your source is just wrong.

For real. 

Hey man i was going off multiple sources that had him listed lighter but then again the original comment was in reference to Kelby saying hightower was 2 inches taller and 10 lbs heavier which according to the same source that has hightower listed at 189 6'1" has watkins at 185 and 6ft. So...

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Hey man i was going off multiple sources that had him listed lighter but then again the original comment was in reference to Kelby saying hightower was 2 inches taller and 10 lbs heavier which according to the same source that has hightower listed at 189 6'1" has watkins at 185 and 6ft. So...

so you concede the size measurements.

On speed, by this point everyone knows what these guys ran at the combine. If anyone says Hightower is faster then its likely based on their impression from watching him on the football field. imo theres no question hes faster than his 4.43 time. I dont know who is faster between he and Watkins and dont really care. Id just say hes faster than his combine time. 

9 minutes ago, TEW said:

Because you kept fighting reality when multiple people literally gave you the link to the NFL’s official combine results. And your explanation was that the NFL somehow confused his actual weigh in at the combine with a weigh in over a month later at an event that didn’t even happen. Come on dude, it’s funny!  

I wouldnt say 3 posts over a span of a few minutes is " kept fighting"

Its funny to you.

 

You know whats funny to me?

Your moms weight. Shes so fat her blood type is ragu😄😒

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

so you concede the size measurements.

On speed, by this point everyone knows what these guys ran at the combine. If anyone says Hightower is faster then its likely based on their impression from watching him on the football field. imo theres no question hes faster than his 4.43 time. I dont know who is faster between he and Watkins and dont really care. Id just say hes faster than his combine time. 

Dude its funny that when i make an honest mistake and admit i was wrong in multiple posts no one tends to read or acknowledge that but i make a couple incorrect posts in a few minutes and everybody jumps on me...

Watkins looks plenty fast on tape as does hightower.

When similar players with similar body types look similar on tape one can turn to 40 times to confirm.

Hightower ran a 4.43 watkins a 4.35

Thats alot faster in my book and without any bias id conclude watkins is faster.

Though id like to hear why others think hightower is faster.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

so you concede the size measurements.

On speed, by this point everyone knows what these guys ran at the combine. If anyone says Hightower is faster then its likely based on their impression from watching him on the football field. imo theres no question hes faster than his 4.43 time. I dont know who is faster between he and Watkins and dont really care. Id just say hes faster than his combine time. 

I would say he was faster than his 4.43 time. No idea if that’s true now that he’s bulked up. 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Dude its funny that when i make an honest mistake and admit i was wrong in multiple posts no one tends to read or acknowledge that but i make a couple incorrect posts in a few minutes and everybody jumps on me...

Watkins looks plenty fast on tape as does hightower.

When similar players with similar body types look similar on tape one can turn to 40 times to confirm.

Hightower ran a 4.43 watkins a 4.35

Thats alot faster in my book and without any bias id conclude watkins is faster.

Though id like to hear why others think hightower is faster.

The report on Watkins is that he uses his speed in RAC situations, but you dont see it so much in his routes. 

Hightower scorches guys, and then hits yet another gear once the all is in his hands. He just looks incredibly fast. 

Again, I dont know, or care who is faster. But I have no doubt Hightower is faster than 4.43. And if anyone thinks he is faster than Watkins, its likely because of the speed in his routes, the separation he gets, and then how he runs away from guys. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Winston and Dalton were both starters, last year.  Winston threw for more yards and TDs than Brees did last year.   Why a late second round pick would have immediate questions as opposed to them is a function of the media not necessarily sense.   Wentz threw for over 4,000 yards last year with no receiver over 500 yards. Unlike Dak, he won the division. Unlike Dak, he had a winning record.  Unlike Dak, his team chose to extend him early in the process with a salary in the top five of QBs.  Unlike Hurts, Dalton has played in the NFL.  Foles was more of a distraction (for the media) than Hurts should be. I would say Hurts is more a reaction to the abysmal play of Thorson last summer and Sudfeld’s short term status than it should be to having any impact on Wentz.  If anything it elevates Wentz to the senior voice in the QB room and shows what confidence they have in him taking that role 

It matters not why.  It simply is.  Why are the Kardashians popular?

I totally agree with you by the way but neither you or I call the shots.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I would say he was faster than his 4.43 time. No idea if that’s true now that he’s bulked up. 

yeah. I believe he actually ran a 4.5 on his second run. I bet he had a Reagor situation with added weight at the combine. I would say theres no way the team is gonna want that weght on him during the season and he will be faster again.

32 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Ive worked for european and US companyup to exec levels as well. The europeans are burdened by alot of those measures and it makes them slow to change and adapt. Their culture is indeed more collectivist but that hinders their corps not help.

inclusion, climate change is just nonsense you do bc its expected. Nothing but PR and politics. At best influence policy so it isnt super stupid.

you folks were offshored for exactly those reasons their value was so low that offshored unskilled labor was a smarter option

 

My present employer, big US tech company, had a big CSR/equality department 2 years ago,  but as they've screwed down on costs after a management change, that area has very much disappeared into thin air and is now an addition to a role, rather than the sole role+department.  I cant say I've noticed any difference in my day to day job, just less group emails to read.

And yeah, they offshored like crazy in the past 18 months...

1 hour ago, Infam said:

Yeah. And like some hot takes suggest, those egos are super fragile and cannot handle anything. Because that is the true mental disposition of leaders!

As if the QB's confidence doesn't matter.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I would say he was faster than his 4.43 time. No idea if that’s true now that he’s bulked up. 

Who knows.

Im assuming his agent or whoever felt it was more important for him to run fast bulked up to 189 then run faster at a much lower weight.

Be interesting to see what he would have run at 175lbs.

One can say he looks faster on tape than he did his combine time but also realize his game tape he was playing at about 15 lbs lighter. 

Whats he going to play at. Hes a 4.4 guy at 189 is he a 4.3 guy at 175?

And can he be effective at 175?

Honestly i dont care at what weight he plays at as long as he makes plays.

If hes more effective at 189 then cool.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The report on Watkins is that he uses his speed in RAC situations, but you dont see it so much in his routes. 

Hightower scorches guys, and then hits yet another gear once the all is in his hands. He just looks incredibly fast. 

Again, I dont know, or care who is faster. But I have no doubt Hightower is faster than 4.43. And if anyone thinks he is faster than Watkins, its likely because of the speed in his routes, the separation he gets, and then how he runs away from guys. 

Again that was at 175 lbs?

Is he going to drop weight in the nfl, be ause he hasnt shown on tape at 189 the things he did at 175.

Where as watkins was listed bigger in college he was listed around 6'2" 190 when in reality hes 6ft 185 so its not like one is going to have to speculate whether or not his tape speed translates

Where as with hightower who knows.

Im sure well never know what his real playing weight is in the NFL it in such flux every season and off season who knows. I wonder if he stays around 190 like combine or he cuts weight to be faster in season???

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. I believe he actually ran a 4.5 on his second run. I bet he had a Reagor situation with added weight at the combine. I would say theres no way the team is gonna want that weght on him during the season and he will be faster again.

Makes one wonder why like reagor they put on the extra weight?

Seems if hightower runs a faster 40 maybe he gets drafted sooner???

So thank his agent for the extra weight so he dropped in the draft to the eagles😊

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Makes one wonder why like reagor they put on the extra weight?

Seems if hightower runs a faster 40 maybe he gets drafted sooner???

So thank his agent for the extra weight so he dropped in the draft to the eagles😊

That truly was a head scratcher. Him running a 4.3 at 195 is exactly what his agent should have wanted. Maybe Reagor went against his advice and really wanted to be as big as possible. His explosion numbers were exceptional despite the weight. Maybe in training he was in the high 4.3s and had a bad day? 

His pro day numbers are bogus, but I bet he’s a 4.3 player at less weight. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

That truly was a head scratcher. Him running a 4.3 at 195 is exactly what his agent should have wanted. Maybe Reagor went against his advice and really wanted to be as big as possible. His explosion numbers were exceptional despite the weight. Maybe in training he was in the high 4.3s and had a bad day? 

His pro day numbers are bogus, but I bet he’s a 4.3 player at less weight. 

Yeah reagors pro day 4.22 or whatever it was is bogus but i agree reagor is a lot faster than his combine 40 time at a heavier weight and im going to guess hightower 40 time of 4.43 is in the 4.3 range if he runs at around 175.

Questionable calls by both players as i think running a faster 40 time is of more value to scouts than having weighed more???

Either way i think it worked out, i think both are fast players and liked both for the eagles as well as watkins whom also looks fast and ran fast.

Eagles got some speed have to see now if they can ball or theyre just a good track team.

Id include goodwin but the guy is older and always hurt so...

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Good twitter thread here. JJAW did an interview in Spanish and opened up some about what happened last year 

Hmm.  That’s actually somewhat "good news” in the sense that the kid wasn’t 100%, etc.  Not good news that he was hurt but that could have been a major reason he didn’t seem to develop at a rate we all wanted.    That and the fact that there seemed to be poor communication with his coach. (I’m assuming Groh)

 Well, let’s see what he does this year, hopefully healthier. 
 

Edit: The rest of the thread on Twitter is a great interview.  The kid seems to be a team player, is high on the team, Wentz, Pederson and the fans.  Worth a 2 minute read if you have a chance. 

4 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Claypool at the end of the first.  Damn.  The boy is hallucinating again.

I really do wonder if his last name was 'Goebel', rather than 'Simms' if he'd have a job in the media.  Classic case of his name carrying him.

4 hours ago, PrinceKelby said:

Yeah, he said Reagor plays like his bad 40 time he had.

Which is insane considering he was clocked at a faster MPH than any player in the NFL last year.

He had Jefferson as his 2nd best WR overall so he was clearly on some magic mushrooms or something.

Hey now... nothing wrong with that.

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Good twitter thread here. JJAW did an interview in Spanish and opened up some about what happened last year 

Um.... can someone explain this:
-At one point in the season they had to help him walk to the bathroom in the morning

52 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. I believe he actually ran a 4.5 on his second run. I bet he had a Reagor situation with added weight at the combine. I would say theres no way the team is gonna want that weght on him during the season and he will be faster again.

I would say that kind of weight. Both are young and both should be able to gain some muscle weight without losing speed.  I would hope our new strength and conditioning team can do that.  I also think some of Hightower’s weight was muscle.  As long as he doesn’t lose that change of pace move and quick cut.  Watkins is straight line fast and faster than Hightower but is a typical fast WR in the later rounds.  Relied on speed.  Needs to improve his cuts and moves. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I really do wonder if his last name was 'Goebel', rather than 'Simms' if he'd have a job in the media.  Classic case of his name carrying him.

I actually like Chris Simms as an analyst. He says some questionable things, but the totality of his work is pretty solid.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Hey now... nothing wrong with that.

Um.... can someone explain this:
-At one point in the season they had to help him walk to the bathroom in the morning

Struggles with separation. 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Hey now... nothing wrong with that.

Um.... can someone explain this:
-At one point in the season they had to help him walk to the bathroom in the morning

Unless there was an injury, it lends credence to the "not NFL ready body" theory.

@HazletonEagle

Eagles struggled with core and leg injuries last year.   Am I wrong to worry with only virtual sessions with the training staff this spring and limited off season workouts, are we looking at an early season of calf strains, hamstring pulls, sports hernias, ACLs and Achilles?