3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That was maclin’s best year of his career. Legitimately played like what they thought when they moved up to draft him. Which was a little surprising cause he missed all of 2013 with injury and he didn’t miss a beat that year. 

I think part of it was that he was the deep threat for the team more than he had been in the past.  Certainly, he opened up the field for Matthews and Ertz.  Matthews looked like a very good receiver.  I still wonder if they had been able to trade Agholor for Darby if that would have worked out better for the team.  (Not that 2017 could have been any better but 2018 to now might have been)

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the cap number is going to go down unless they find a new way to monetize games.  I'm not sure how the product is impacted because the market for players is going to stay the same.  It's not like players are going to hold out and not play.  They can't get more money overseas.  I do think some FA's are only going to want to sign short term deals.  

IF the cap goes down and there's no way to negotiate it based on the current situation, I think the salaries could also be dropped by the same percentage as the salary cap drops.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I think part of it was that he was the deep threat for the team more than he had been in the past.  Certainly, he opened up the field for Matthews and Ertz.  Matthews looked like a very good receiver.  I still wonder if they had been able to trade Agholor for Darby if that would have worked out better for the team.  (Not that 2017 could have been any better but 2018 to now might have been)

Idk. Agholor had a ton of big plays from the slot position and big plays in general for the eagles in 2017. I don’t think they win without him that year. Matthews while good i don’t think was nearly as dynamic as agholor was that year. Heck he caught everything on the eagles final drive of the super bowl. It’s an overlooked thing about that final drive. However he did run out of bounds on one of them but he had 3 consecutive catches all for first downs after the ertz 4th down conversion. 

15 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the cap number is going to go down unless they find a new way to monetize games.  I'm not sure how the product is impacted because the market for players is going to stay the same.  It's not like players are going to hold out and not play.  They can't get more money overseas.  I do think some FA's are only going to want to sign short term deals.  

Going down is different than dropping $80M. If that were to happen there would be 4 teams that would be able to survive that with minimal money to spend on new players or their own guys. Half the league would have to shed so much salary (which also would result in dead money, further hindering every team) that they would have to get rid of anyone expendable and fill them with vet minimum guys only. Howie's a cap genius but it would be literally impossible to get under the cap with such a massive drop off. 

27 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not exactly.  Foles had one playoff game.  2013 (his second season in the league) 2 TDs, 0 INT.  Eagles' O scored 24 points.  

Foles was not a sure thing when he was signed, and basically no one saw his signing as an insurance policy on a Super Bowl run... even as it was happening.  But, there was the hope that he could get on one of his hot streaks.  He did, they won.  Story written.  

 

On the other hand, Dalton is a guy who has started for over a decade in the league, and frankly has been disappointing, especially since he got paid.  Maybe he finds lightning in a bottle if called upon.  But, the odds of that are much longer than for Foles, if you ask me.  Dalton has never had a 27-2 streak in his career.  We'll see.  This is Dallas trying to be relevant again.  They mention Nick Foles... a Super Bowl... and whip their sheep up in a frenzy.  

 

Truth is... they haven't been relevant in the NFL since 1996.  They are basically the Detroit Lions, only with a better press agent.  Same color scheme, same history of finding ways to lose.  Same puffed up QB who makes stats without meaningful wins.

Okay well I still think it was a good signing and I definitely agree with them that the circumstance is similar to the Foles signing for us.  Will it win them a Super Bowl? Well I never said that.

Thoughts on Clowney.  I don't want the Eagles to have to be careful with what they do around Carson but man that would be something if they drafted his "backup" in the 2nd round and then signed the guy who cheap shotted him out of the playoff game which was probably the last straw for the Eagles to decide they needed to draft a quarterback.

How much can one guy take mentally.  Backup drafted, in all honesty, not a HUGE investment in WR help, no running backs added to help outside of a rehabbing Clement and then you sign the guy who took him out and didn't think he did anything wrong. What message does that send your franchise quarterback?

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Okay well I still think it was a good signing and I definitely agree with them that the circumstance is similar to the Foles signing for us.  Will it win them a Super Bowl? Well I never said that.

No, you didn't.  That's the implication that Jones is saying.  He's saying his team is ready to win a Super Bowl this year... and that they can still even if they have to rely on Andy Dalton.  He's almost as delusional as his dad.

Signing Dalton is a good move for them.  He's not going to save their season though.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Going down is different than dropping $80M. If that were to happen there would be 4 teams that would be able to survive that with minimal money to spend on new players or their own guys. Half the league would have to shed so much salary (which also would result in dead money, further hindering every team) that they would have to get rid of anyone expendable and fill them with vet minimum guys only. Howie's a cap genius but it would be literally impossible to get under the cap with such a massive drop off. 

Everyone is paid the vet minimum when it also the vet maximum.  

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Everyone is paid the vet minimum when it also the vet maximum.  

It wouldn't be that simple. Come on. 

 

32 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Schefter speculated that since its based off revenue if the whole season played out with no fans they would lose a large chunk of revenue and the cap would come down around those numbers. 

Quite frankly, I think its BS. The NFL and NFLPA could come to an agreement on a cap #, its not locked in stone it must be based off revenue. The NFL might as well close their doors if they allow the cap to drop from $200M to $120M. That would be such a detriment to the product for so many reasons. 

That makes really good sense.  I don't see how that they could ever do anything that greatly disturbs the product going forward.  There is so much bad info out there that it's hard to sort through.

42 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He’d make this whole defense better. 

Nope.  Strikes me as the kind of guy that would get his money and mail it in most days.

3 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

So?

LT - Luke Joeckel
LG - Jonathan Cooper
C - Cameron Erving
RG - Chance Warmack
RT - Ereck Flowers 
WR - Kevin White 
WR - Laquon Treadwell
WR - John Ross
WR - Corey Coleman
RB - Trent Richardson 
QB - Johnny Manziel

 

I never said I was impressed.

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Thoughts on Clowney.  I don't want the Eagles to have to be careful with what they do around Carson but man that would be something if they drafted his "backup" in the 2nd round and then signed the guy who cheap shotted him out of the playoff game which was probably the last straw for the Eagles to decide they needed to draft a quarterback.

How much can one guy take mentally.  Backup drafted, in all honesty, not a HUGE investment in WR help, no running backs added to help outside of a rehabbing Clement and then you sign the guy who took him out and didn't think he did anything wrong. What message does that send your franchise quarterback?

um, it doesn't send any message other than we want to win. Not one thing you have posted means a damn thing to Carson or his "mentality". 

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Nope.  Strikes me as the kind of guy that would get his money and mail it in most days.

He plays when he wants to.

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No, you didn't.  That's the implication that Jones is saying.  He's saying his team is ready to win a Super Bowl this year... and that they can still even if they have to rely on Andy Dalton.  He's almost as delusional as his dad.

Signing Dalton is a good move for them.  He's not going to save their season though.

Yeah, I doubt it would win them the Super Bowl but it might win them a few more games

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Nope.  Strikes me as the kind of guy that would get his money and mail it in most days.

Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal, I don’t think so 

1 minute ago, greend said:

Yeah, I doubt it would win them the Super Bowl but it might win them a few more games

It might.  He's better than their other option at backup QB.  Of course, if you were to listen to Dallas fools... they were talking about Cooper Rush as the best backup in the NFL not that long ago.  Cooper..... Rush.....  It just goes to show the ridiculous stuff they'll believe/throw out there as 'fact'.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal, I don’t think so 

He is not going to sign a one year prove it deal

Just wanted to say I love this title EMB Blog: 2020 Offseason....."Home of the QB Factory"

Never knew that, thanks Reggie.

5 minutes ago, greend said:

Yeah, I doubt it would win them the Super Bowl but it might win them a few more games

It's a great move for them.  Dalton compared to Cooper Rush is massive upgrade and not even fair to compare him to Thorson.  Nonetheless, the Cowboys blow and regardless of signing Dalton they will be looking up at the Eagles in the division hoping 3 teams lose on the last day of the season so they can get the final wildcard spot.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It wouldn't be that simple. Come on. 

 

It would be chaotic and you would see players getting released but owners are going to lose money this season and they are going to want to save money going into 2021.  The mechanism to do that is through the salary cap.  They aren't going to have as much incentive to negotiate on it as you think.  

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Thoughts on Clowney.  I don't want the Eagles to have to be careful with what they do around Carson but man that would be something if they drafted his "backup" in the 2nd round and then signed the guy who cheap shotted him out of the playoff game which was probably the last straw for the Eagles to decide they needed to draft a quarterback.

How much can one guy take mentally.  Backup drafted, in all honesty, not a HUGE investment in WR help, no running backs added to help outside of a rehabbing Clement and then you sign the guy who took him out and didn't think he did anything wrong. What message does that send your franchise quarterback?

I know I’m in the minority here but I don’t think Clowney was intentionally trying to injure Wentz. That’s why I hesitate to call it a cheap shot. But we also may have different opinions on what defines a cheap shot. Mine is intentionally trying to hurt someone and/or taking an unnecessary shot when the play is over or the player is out of the play. 
 

Yes, it was definitely a penalty. Yes, he should have been fined. But the game is played so fast and sometimes all you can do is react. JMO. 
 

Therefore... I don’t think the Eagles signing Clowney would effect Carson in the slightest. If it did then CW isn’t cut out to be a pro athlete (which we all know he is).
 

Anyone watching the Bulls documentary? Jordan and Pippen hated Rodman before he joined the team in 95, but they knew he’d help them win. 

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

He is not going to sign a one year prove it deal

Probably not but I wouldn’t have thought Alshon would either. 

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

IF the cap goes down and there's no way to negotiate it based on the current situation, I think the salaries could also be dropped by the same percentage as the salary cap drops.

The salaries are contracted amounts as is the salary cap.  The salary cap would be going down based on the CBA as it already exists.  There are probably no such provisions in any existing player contract.  What I mean is player contracts are not linked to the salary cap total.  

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The salaries are contracted amounts as is the salary cap.  The salary cap would be going down based on the CBA as it already exists.  There are probably no such provisions in any existing player contract.  What I mean is player contracts are not linked to the salary cap total.  

Its complicated.... and I'm no lawyer.   I'm just looking for some kind of 'common sense' solution.  If the salary cap goes down by 25% as a result of the loss in revenue (also a loss of 25%), then it would be conceivable to suggest that the players lose 25% as well (except for NFL a floor at the NFL minimum salaries).  

Just a thought.  If revenue is down 25%, then a 25% cut across the board makes sense to me.