1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

A chinese non peer reviewed paper....

yeah im sold....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/27/canada-hiv-mutated-strain-rapid-development-aids-study

Do a quick search about it mutating and you'll find lots of other studies. Basic point is this thing has already changed at least once, so what do you think will happen if we give it another year?

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

A chinese non peer reviewed paper....

yeah im sold....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164235/US-coronavirus-Map-shows-eight-strains-raced-world.html

There is another.

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Depending on how quickly a virus mutates, some vaccines have to be regularly updated, such a flu vaccines that have to be administered every year.

Sounds like best case scenario will be like the flu where they guess

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

Umm.... I'm not a professional or anything... but wouldn't restricting strength and conditioning lead to more injuries and rehab?

 

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/27/canada-hiv-mutated-strain-rapid-development-aids-study

Do a quick search about it mutating and you'll find lots of other studies. Basic point is this thing has already changed at least once, so what do you think will happen if we give it another year?

The mutation happened long ago. Months ago it was said to have mutated 2 or 3 times from the one that first hit Wuhan. Now I read 8. But the mutations are not changing the part of the virus that a vaccine will attack. Its a non-issue. 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Umm.... I'm not a professional or anything... but wouldn't restricting strength and conditioning lead to more injuries and rehab?

 

This seems no different than a college athlete who may go home for spring break, or summer. The athletic trainers send rehab programs home. Strength and conditioning send strength and nutrition programs home. Its not as though they arent working out. Surely these players have the ability to work out on their own. They just cant all come in to the nova care complex and wort out together all in the same room. 

44 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How does it work with the flu? They pick a strain. Just read an article today talking about how the virus hitting us now is a stronger mutated form they would have to base the vaccine off this one not the original. So how would it not be accurate?

 

Found it in a quick search, but not the one from this morning. 30 strains out there...so how is a vaccine going to help?

Not confirmed that there are 30 strains.  Possible, but not confirmed.  Also print out any papers you read from China, shred them, crumple them up, then burn them, then bury the ashes.  Then fence off the area and wear a facemask any time you walk near it.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

This seems no different than a college athlete who may go home for spring break, or summer. The athletic trainers send rehab programs home. Strength and conditioning send strength and nutrition programs home. Its not as though they arent working out. Surely these players have the ability to work out on their own. They just cant all come in to the nova care complex and wort out together all in the same room. 

Given this team's recent history with soft tissue injuries... having them not with the S&C coaches might be a good thing.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Given this team's recent history with soft tissue injuries... having them not with the S&C coaches might be a good thing.

Exactly.  Maybe no medical staffs, strength and conditioning, or workout programs will bring everyone to our level.  Think of all the injuries.  The Eagles can't have more injuries than last year.  So it's all gravy for us.

48 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Our CBs from last year should be fine.  They couldn't stay within 6 yards of a WR, let alone 6 feet.

 

It's going to be refreshing watching an actual CB this season in Slay

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Let's talk about Josh Sweat for a second.  He is a top of round 1 athletic talent...we are talking Clowney/Garrett type athleticism.  He was the top recruit in the nation out of HS.

He fell in the draft because of a terrible injury, which derailed his college career.  He was used in a read and react scheme (I'm not a big NCAA fan, but don't HS players consider these things when committing to schools?)  As a rookie, he couldn't figure out how to get out of his stance.  He was consistently the last guy off the line after the snap.  There is no point in being the most explosive athlete on the entire defense if you are stuck in your stance.  Then he had a seemingly severe injury at the end of the year.  Felt like there wasn't much of a future here.

In 2019, he became a little more instinctive off the snap, although certainly not yet ideal.  He stayed healthy all year.  His 4 sacks were respectable for a rotational DE.  His athleticism is still far more apparent when he's in a 2-point stance than when his hand is in the dirt.  He can run down anyone and erase space in the backfield in pursuit, but he still doesn't show that explosion out of his 3 point stance.  

He only just turned 23, less than a year older than some guys who went top 60 this year.

Can we expect more from him?  Barnett is a "he is who he is" guy if there ever was one.  Graham does his job but already doesn't scare anyone; it's only a matter of time before he starts to scare us.  The need disruption from the edge.  It would be a huge win if Sweat could provide something.

I have high hopes for Sweat, yup he is top tier athletic talent.  Before he blew his knee out he was the next Clowney.  

He improved a ton last year and I think he excels against the run.

My concern with him is still his knee.  He is STILL wearing the knee brace.  To me that tells me the injury is still in the back of his mind and he isn't playing full speed and plays every snap with a little bit of hesitation of not getting hurt...as tiny as that little spec of thought might be it's still there and in my opinion that is what's holding him back from being great.  The brace gives him comfort.  It's also something he may never get over.  

I'm expecting 8 sacks a few forced fumbles, maybe 10 TFL for Sweat this year.

 

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Barnett is only 23 as well. have to feel like this is BG's last year here. DE will be a top priority next draft

I'm playing the what if game here.  What if both Barnett and Sweat show this year they can be bookends.  8 sacks + each.  Avery shows he has a knack as a situational rusher.  What if Miller and or Ostman also show they can be situational rushers and contributors.  

This is a HUGE year in DE development for this team  They have invested quite a bit in the position over the last 3 years.  1st rounder, 3 4th rounders, maybe Toohill taps in to his crazy athletic ability and becomes something.  

 

This is the total optimistic look but man I would love to see these guys develop.  It's time the Eagles draft picks start becoming the young core of the team.  

52 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Umm.... I'm not a professional or anything... but wouldn't restricting strength and conditioning lead to more injuries and rehab?

 

Also, are guys doing rehab less prone to be infected?  Set guidelines for all to adhere.  The NovaCare Complex is plenty big where they could spread out, sanitize and be safe.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

This guy concurs.

 

Sweat is more productive than Clowney. No surprise.  Is the argument he is more productive than Barnett. Certainly looks like Barnett is more productive than Clowney too.

Sacks are not everything. 

Listening to Roob’s podcast... He spoke with Lance Zierlein and he said Howie is close with the trainer who hosted Reagor’s video workout. I suspect he got some legit numbers from the guy. Also, he said he heard Jefferson was the Eagles’ guy early in the process but later they became enamored with Reagor’s speed and his ability to win at all three levels. 

48 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not confirmed that there are 30 strains.  Possible, but not confirmed.  Also print out any papers you read from China, shred them, crumple them up, then burn them, then bury the ashes.  Then fence off the area and wear a facemask any time you walk near it.

I'd love for you and the rest to be right. As a non medical person it just sounds like a vaccine will always be a few steps behind unless what Haz said holds. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Listening to Roob’s podcast... He spoke with Lance Zierlein and he said Howie is close with the trainer who hosted Reagor’s video workout. I suspect he got some legit numbers from the guy. Also, he said he heard Jefferson was the Eagles’ guy early in the process but later they became enamored with Reagor’s speed and his ability to win at all three levels. 

It was a pretty informative podcast. 

Possibly another interesting note, the same trainer who was working with Reagor has been working with Clowney.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Sacks are not everything. 

Feels like Tim Hauck has gotten a pass. I know he hasn’t had any talent outside of Jenkins and McLeod, but Epps had some boneheaded plays — there, and then being baffled on the fake screen that ended the game against Seattle. 

Zierlein also said that some teams viewed Hightower as a day 3 sleeper and some teams had Watkins graded as a fourth round pick. 

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/27/canada-hiv-mutated-strain-rapid-development-aids-study

Do a quick search about it mutating and you'll find lots of other studies. Basic point is this thing has already changed at least once, so what do you think will happen if we give it another year?

Viruses mutate all the time and yet vaccines still work...

 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Are any of these guys PR/KR?

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'd love for you and the rest to be right. As a non medical person it just sounds like a vaccine will always be a few steps behind unless what Haz said holds. 

I don’t really have an opinion yet.  This could end up being an annual scourge, a more virulent version of the flu where a vaccine is always a step behind.

Or it all strains could have a common identifying surface protein that can be wiped out by a vaccine next winter.  
 

I think anyone that is offering a definite promise one way or the other really cannot know.

23 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Viruses mutate all the time and yet vaccines still work...

Hope it does work. All I know is what I'm reading but studies even in the US are all over. Some say it will mutate and work some say they won't. I know which I'm pulling for with 3 high risk people in my family. 

I just heard that Reagor had 12 qbs in college. That can't be true right?

That would be absurd.