2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Howie's strength has been compromised by his weakness.  Sure he's a good cap guy and is able to play the shell game with money.  But that Howie can only do so much to support the other Howie, which is why they will be in that cap situation.  Bringing back or extending aged players to help cover up crap drafting.  Sure poor player development has hurt to.  With players like Agholor, Jones, Hollins and JJAW.  But their constant misses in the draft has made his strength irrelevant.  

 

Go ahead sensitive posters.  Flame away.  

 

The problem with that analysis is that it ignores his hits in the drafts.  Wentz was a big hit in the draft. Lane Johnson was a hit.  I mean Kelce is a potential HOF player.  Cox, Graham and Curry have all been productive players.  Then there's players like Clement, Sanders, Scott at RB. McCoy was under Howie's watch.   Ertz and Goeddert are both very good.  Seumalo and Vaitai on the o-line.  Mills, for a 7th round pick, was a good pick.   They have been in a position to add key free agents almost every season.  The only player that they kept or extended unwisely was Alshon. It's not just all that Howie is bad at drafting.  That being said, it's not like Jones and JJaw aren't big misses so far.  Agholor should have been a 3rd round pick.  Hollins got hurt and I'm not sure I'd call him a bad pick.  This is a make or break year.  Reagor needs to be a very good player for this draft to be a success.  If he turns into a Steve Smith type receiver, then Howie has had a good draft.  If he's Agholor, then they need to really re-vamp his role. 

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The problem with that analysis is that it ignores his hits in the drafts. 

Fans expect 100% hit rates in the first 2-3 rounds and it's just not realistic.

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know they are hygiene related but doesn't it seem like just a tad bit overkill?  If anything, just isolate the teams in their own hotels.  Conduct testing and have strict rules enforced with who they can interact with.  Then they can go to the ballpark, play their games, free of masks and without these ridiculous rules.  

If they want their multi-million dollar salaries, then they can sacrifice and isolate like the rest of the country who is doing the same thing, just 33% have no income at all.  If they want, they can have their families stay with them (it is summer).  Up to them.  

I want sports as much as the next person but I don't want to see sports with rules that in all honesty are more for show than anything else.  Make it look normal for every day Americans so they continue to follow the orders.  

 

I'm saying that the rules seem pretty consistent with CDC guidelines.  I'm not sure what the problem with them would be.  They shouldn't spit or touch their faces.  I mean i don't know if they will be able to avoid these habits but there's nothing wrong with trying.  We honestly won't know if they did too much.  We will only know if the rules don't work.  I mean how does baseball work if a player does get sick and causes other teams to have to stop playing to avoid further infection.  

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I'm saying that the rules seem pretty consistent with CDC guidelines.  I'm not sure what the problem with them would be.  They shouldn't spit or touch their faces.  I mean i don't know if they will be able to avoid these habits but there's nothing wrong with trying.  We honestly won't know if they did too much.  We will only know if the rules don't work.  I mean how does baseball work if a player does get sick and causes other teams to have to stop playing to avoid further infection.  

While I understand what you're saying about following CDC guidelines, which on their own can be questioned, the bolded statement is where an argument can be made.  If this is the mindset then we will never have sports because like it or not this virus is not going away any time soon regardless of precautions being implemented.  It's probably here to stay and the majority of Americans have probably had it, not known and kept on going.  With that being said, this new normal crap that they are shoving down our throat just isn't realistic.  

At what point do you say OK, we are safe and sports can continue, go ahead and spit.  We are never going to be at 0% infected.  It just isn't going to happen.  What happens when we hit the magic number and life is back.  Sports are up and running, fans in the stands, players high-fiving and showering.  Uh-oh, one person tests positive again.  Are we going to come back to a screeching halt?  Close down? Seasons stop.  It's not sustainable.

17 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Not a big Vodka person, but when I went to Maui a few years ago got to go to the Ocean Vodka farm and it was really impressive.  Made from sugar cane and uses deep ocean mineral currents.  Don't let the gimmicky bottle fool you, it's solid vodka.

👍Looks good.  One caveat...all alcoholic beverages must pass a home test test; everything tastes better on vacation and that certainly goes for Maui.  

The "we will throw away balls if touched by multiple people" rule not only sounds like a huge waste in resources, but sounds impossible to implement in Football/Basketball. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

What kind of a username is MediterraneanDiet? Where’s the motivation in making that your username for a Sports’ team’s message board? Just curious. 

It flows and is pleasing to read aloud.  

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

👍Looks good.  One caveat...all alcoholic beverages must pass a home test test; everything tastes better on vacation and that certainly goes for Maui.  

It's my go-to at home on the rare occasion I do Vodka.  Introduced it to my brother who's a dirty gluten-free grain-free organic hippy who only drinks Vodka and it's his go-to now.  It has passed the test for me, but again I'm faaaaarrrr from a vodka authority so take that with a grain of salt.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You're right.  Sensitive is probably the wrong word.  How about "defensive".  And I'm not talking about people who disagree with me on everything.  Just this topic.  There is numerous posters in here that are very defensive everything Eagles related and are not able to be honest with themselves for whatever reason.  If you or anyone disagrees with my post about Howie, then you're wrong and most likely an apologist.  Not saying you are one of those people.   But they are in here.  There is also self righteous sjw posters in here.  And mostly they are one in the same.  

 

If anyone thinks this team has done a good job at drafting the past few years....then you'll never criticize them for anything.  

 

 

Yeah, Howie has been challenged.   My uncle can't even say his name without cursing multiple times.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

👍Looks good.  One caveat...all alcoholic beverages must pass a home test test; everything tastes better on vacation and that certainly goes for Maui.  

Looks and sounds like cologne from the 90s. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Maybe he sells the plan?

I wish.  Mostly I spend money on the plan.

47 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The problem with that analysis is that it ignores his hits in the drafts. 

Howie is like the teflon GM. When the picks are good, he was in charge of the draft, when the picks are bad, someone else was.

 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The "we will throw away balls if touched by multiple people" rule not only sounds like a huge waste in resources, but sounds impossible to implement in Football/Basketball. 

I assume with the baseballs they could just toss them into a room and let them sit for a week before going back into use. That way the virus, if there is one, dies off. As for basketball, I would think the plan would include testing and quarantining the players/coaches to (ideally) not spread the disease. 

Football has so many players on the roster that it’s gonna be tough to pull off testing/quarantining. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I assume with the baseballs they could just toss them into a room and let them sit for a week before going back into use. That way the virus, if there is one, dies off. As for basketball, I would think the plan would include testing and quarantining the players/coaches to (ideally) not spread the disease. 

Football has so many players on the roster that it’s gonna be tough to pull off testing/quarantining. 

Which is why I sincerely ask when do we realize we just have to live with this virus and get on with life?  You and I both know the minute a player, coach, official or anyone associated with a game tests positive that league is going to shut down.  Then the other active leagues will say well we have to be cautious too and they will shut down.  It will be a never ending cycle unless we just accept the fact that there is a new virus in the world that we have to fight annually.  

I know Covid is not the flu but I find it funny that we are here PRAISING Michael Jordan for the flu game (which he could have spread to any player on the court) during the same time we are shut down over another virus.  SIdenote, Jordan last night claimed it was food poisoning on the Last Dance.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Which is why I sincerely ask when do we realize we just have to live with this virus and get on with life?  You and I both know the minute a player, coach, official or anyone associated with a game tests positive that league is going to shut down.  Then the other active leagues will say well we have to be cautious too and they will shut down.  It will be a never ending cycle unless we just accept the fact that there is a new virus in the world that we have to fight annually.  

I know Covid is not the flu but I find it funny that we are here PRAISING Michael Jordan for the flu game (which he could have spread to any player on the court) during the same time we are shut down over another virus.  SIdenote, Jordan last night claimed it was food poisoning on the Last Dance.

Straight sabotage by Jazz fan pizza makers or delivery drivers to hurt Jordan. And he still took their lunch money at recess!

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Which is why I sincerely ask when do we realize we just have to live with this virus and get on with life?  You and I both know the minute a player, coach, official or anyone associated with a game tests positive that league is going to shut down.  Then the other active leagues will say well we have to be cautious too and they will shut down.  It will be a never ending cycle unless we just accept the fact that there is a new virus in the world that we have to fight annually.  

I know Covid is not the flu but I find it funny that we are here PRAISING Michael Jordan for the flu game (which he could have spread to any player on the court) during the same time we are shut down over another virus.  SIdenote, Jordan last night claimed it was food poisoning on the Last Dance.

i think the current state of uncertainty and over cautiousness are because there is no vaccine yet/proven treatment unlike the flu.  And the virus mutations and side / long term effects (swelling in children, long term organ impacts) are not fully understood yet unlike the flu.  Once we have a medicine and a vaccine, I think things will be more back to normal.  I will also say yearly vaccines will be more of a necessity with this vs the flu IMO

19 minutes ago, Perforator said:

Howie is like the teflon GM. When the picks are good, he was in charge of the draft, when the picks are bad, someone else was.

 

I agree that's the problematic part of evaluating him. He has owned the Marcus Smith pick.    I do think that's a fair point.  He is going to always have a Joe Douglas or now Andy Weidl.  

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Which is why I sincerely ask when do we realize we just have to live with this virus and get on with life?  You and I both know the minute a player, coach, official or anyone associated with a game tests positive that league is going to shut down.  Then the other active leagues will say well we have to be cautious too and they will shut down.  It will be a never ending cycle unless we just accept the fact that there is a new virus in the world that we have to fight annually.  

I know Covid is not the flu but I find it funny that we are here PRAISING Michael Jordan for the flu game (which he could have spread to any player on the court) during the same time we are shut down over another virus.  SIdenote, Jordan last night claimed it was food poisoning on the Last Dance.

We do have to live with the virus.  Living with the virus doesn't mean pretending it doesn't exist.  If we shut our eyes, it doesn't make it go away.  

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I agree that's the problematic part of evaluating him. He has owned the Marcus Smith pick.    I do think that's a fair point.  He is going to always have a Joe Douglas or now Andy Weidl.  

Not the same.

Now its all on Howie. Weidl wont be a scapegoat.

 

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Exactly

Well, this one is unequivocally his.  Hoping he knocked it out of the park.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The "we will throw away balls if touched by multiple people" rule not only sounds like a huge waste in resources, but sounds impossible to implement in Football/Basketball. 

The average use of a MLB baseball is about 6 pitches.  So, it's not that far off from the regular baseball usage.

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The average use of a MLB baseball is about 6 pitches.  So, it's not that far off from the regular baseball usage.

But what percentage of those balls go in to the stands for a lucky fan or do they go into a bucket for BP?  Speaking of BP, will they have someone to collect all HR balls during BP, foul balls during play and HR during play?  Are those discarded?  

1 hour ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

It flows and is pleasing to read aloud.  

We figured you were hoping for an abbreviated nickname like JR or some that brought their nicknames from their previous screen names like TEW or RLC.  Unfortunately, MD was unavailable as we have a couple of doctors already on the board so Di was thrown out as an option.  👑

 

Going back to the WR scouting discussion.  Peter Warrick was unstoppable at FSU.  Drafted in the first by the Bengals then nothing.  Just shows how unpredictable the draft is.  Thought he would be a stud in the league.  Part of his demise may have been going where careers go to die with the Bengals.

44 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not the same.

Now its all on Howie. Weidl wont be a scapegoat.

 

Until he moves on from the Eagles.