The whole point of a DEEP WR class is that you should be able to get one later than the 1st round.  If the position is really that deep, you're likely to run into a WR as BPA at some point, or even multiple points in the draft.  

Not down with reaching for our WR need in the 1st if the value isn't there.

We have just as much need at other positions, AND you shouldn't draft for need anyway based on how fast rosters turnover.  What's not a need today can easily be a need tomorrow.

1 minute ago, AzBirdGang said:

Jefferson is 2nd in big plays of 15 yard or more over the last two years. Jerry Juedy is 1st. 

Jefferon can do it all. 2018 he played outside for almost all of the season. He is going to go higher than we think. 

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him go #15.

Just now, Arsenal79 said:

The whole point of a DEEP WR class is that you should be able to get one later than the 1st round.  If the position is really that deep, you're likely to run into a WR as BPA at some point, or even multiple points in the draft.  

Not down in reaching for our WR need in the 1st if the value isn't there.

We have just as much need at other positions, AND you shouldn't draft for need anyway based on how fast rosters turnover.  What's not a need today can easily be a need tomorrow.

Sure.  I heard that about RB... I heard that about OL... and even WR before. 

 

We came away with Donnell Pumphrey, nobody and Jordan Matthews/Josh Huff.

Think Jefferson goes Top 15. Somebody will reach. I'm hoping for Reagor in a 1st round trade down.

Just now, Iggles25 said:

Think Jefferson goes Top 15. Somebody will reach. I'm hoping for Reagor in a 1st round trade down.

My concern is that the Saints hop in front of us to take Reagor, just like with Cooks. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

I am suggesting that waiting 32 picks is a good way to swing and miss on WR.  I think the difference in potential impact of guys like Reagor, Mims, Higgins Aiyuk versus guys like Gabriel Davis, DPJ, Claypool, Pittmann is much much greater than the impact of Queen or Murray (who are very good prospects, but still at a position of far less value) over a guy like Willie Gay, Logan Wilson or even Jordyn Brooks.   

 

I get that you want 'the best of both worlds'.  But, this draft... they need to make sure that they get the best they can of the world that Carson lives in.

I hear you and agree.  Just throwing out an alternative perspective.

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

My concern is that the Saints hop in front of us to take Reagor, just like with Cooks. 

Man, just when you think there's no possible way I could dislike the Saints more...

Guess it would be prudent to sit and take him at 21.

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36 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

Even if that’s your plan, what happens if you can’t get one or the other and you are forced into a lesser combination?

 

is the extra 4th round pick worth it?

I feel like after the top 3, maybe 4 if you count JJ, the next 4-6 WRs are valued very close to the same.  This draft happens to be extremely deep at the 1 position we need help at the most.  Id rather have possibly 2 top 10 WRs in this draft and another day 2 pick vs the 4th best along with the picks we currently have.  

1 hour ago, Han Solo said:

The issue with moving back 5-7 slots is that MIN, NE, MIN, NO have the next 4 picks after us and could pick a WR and our first WR drafted could be a Higgins/ Hamler type.

This.  And add GB to the list of teams after us that could go WR.

Assuming the top four are gone and we trade back 5 spots, up to four WRs may be gone when we pick again.  And...based on how Howie has his board set up, that may be a drop from one tier to another.

That being said, unless someone is trading up for a QB, I don't anticipate a willing trade partner.  The top tier of talent ends at around #15 - #17.  Picks #20 - #35 appear to be a pretty flat talent curve.

1 minute ago, FTheCowboys said:

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4. Curious

Watching 2014 nfl draft... gruden thought the raiders should have gone manziel over Khalil Mack

I don't know if posted.

3 minutes ago, What The F said:

I feel like after the top 3, maybe 4 if you count JJ, the next 4-6 WRs are valued very close to the same.  This draft happens to be extremely deep at the 1 position we need help at the most.  Id rather have possibly 2 top 10 WRs in this draft and another day 2 pick vs the 4th best along with the picks we currently have.  

Value?  yes.  Fit and skill set, they are fairly varied.    So, the next 4 don't all fit the Eagles system in the same way.  

3 minutes ago, What The F said:

I feel like after the top 3, maybe 4 if you count JJ, the next 4-6 WRs are valued very close to the same.  This draft happens to be extremely deep at the 1 position we need help at the most.  Id rather have possibly 2 top 10 WRs in this draft and another day 2 pick vs the 4th best along with the picks we currently have.  

Maybe similar value, but very different fits. So I’d argue not really equal for us at all. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Sure.  I heard that about RB... I heard that about OL... and even WR before. 

 

We came away with Donnell Pumphrey, nobody and Jordan Matthews/Josh Huff.

This. We ended up with Sweat in a historic defensive end class. Same with Pumphrey. Jordan Matthews in that receiver draft. 

Go get one of these top guys Howie. You have the draft capital. Use a pick from next year's draft. We might not even be able to have college football next year. How do you scout for that?

Wentz deep right to Lamb for 56 yards - Touchdown. 30 - 24. Birds win. 

Do the deal Howie.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This.  And add GB to the list of teams after us that could go WR.

Assuming the top four are gone and we trade back 5 spots, up to four WRs may be gone when we pick again.  And...based on how Howie has his board set up, that may be a drop from one tier to another.

That being said, unless someone is trading up for a QB, I don't anticipate a willing trade partner.  The top tier of talent ends at around #15 - #17.  Picks #20 - #35 appear to be a pretty flat talent curve.

4. Curious

I think the WR run starts right at the Eagles' pick at #21.  And we might end up seeing up to 8 WRs in Round 1.   We might not, but it's a very real possibility.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's silly. 

Why not just take the highest rated Punter?   

 

It's not about whether it's the 5th WR or the 2nd CB, its about which PLAYER is the better prospect and fits your team better.  If you want to say that CJ Henderson is a better prospect than Denzel Mims... then say that.  That's meaningful.   And I agree.   If you say 2nd CB over 5th WR, then I'll have to ask you who they are and consider them... 

 

As for the LB... same deal.   Is Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray a better fit and prospect for this team than Jalen Reagor... whether Reagor is the top WR or the 10th doesn't matter... same as whether or not Queen/Murray is the 2nd best LB or the 12th.  

Completely agree with this.      When I hear the term "good value" I wonder what the hell that has to do with picking a player who can make an impact and fits your scheme.          So it's "good value" to take a higher rated player than a lower rated one at a different position who better fits what your team does?         That's never made a bit of sense to me, and sounds like draftnik gobbledy-****.

A perfect draft to me would be getting three players with the first three picks that can come in and have an impact, regardless of position.        Ideally I'd like to trade back even into the 2nd round if it could get us an additional 2nd and give us four Day 2 picks.          This draft is so deep at so many positions that the more picks you have, the better.        

I just wish someone else was making the picks.

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Watching 2014 nfl draft... gruden thought the raiders should have gone manziel over Khalil Mack

Watching this too. I saw Kiper say the Bills could have just waited for Odell instead of trading up for Sammy Watkins. 

 

I don't watch much college football, but I have a question about WR Jalen Reagor to the draft experts in here.

Why zero concern about his disappointing 40 time, and terrible 3 Cone Drill and 20 Yard Shuttle at the combine?  For a guy who's supposed to be a deep threat those numbers don't inspire confidence.  It's not like he's a big guy at only 5'11" with relatively short arms.

I can see Rd.2, but what am I missing that people want to take him #21 overall?

Just now, AzBirdGang said:

Watching this too. I saw Kiper say the Bills could have just waited for Odell instead of trading up for Sammy Watkins. 

 

Ahh, two fellow masochists waiting for undoubtedly the worst Eagles 1st round pick of the decade.

I want Higgins

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think the WR run starts right at the Eagles' pick at #21.  And we might end up seeing up to 8 WRs in Round 1.   We might not, but it's a very real possibility.

And playing that out, we get WR #1 @21, wr run happens and a good, non-WR player is sitting there at or around 53. 
 

then grab WR #2 in rounds 3-4

1 minute ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Ahh, two fellow masochists waiting for undoubtedly the worst Eagles 1st round pick of the decade.

I know. This draft was so bad. 

3 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

I don't watch much college football, but I have a question about WR Jalen Reagor to the draft experts in here.

Why zero concern about his disappointing 40 time, and terrible 3 Cone Drill and 20 Yard Shuttle at the combine?  For a guy who's supposed to be a deep threat those numbers don't inspire confidence.  It's not like he's a big guy at only 5'11" with relatively short arms.

I can see Rd.2, but what am I missing that people want to take him #21 overall?

Not zero concern... but he reportedly put on 11 pounds in an attempt to show people he could play heavier and still be a playmaker.  That experiment failed-- at least for the combine.

11 minutes ago, FTheCowboys said:

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