1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not sure if hardship is a cure anymore. Id say the country is experiencing one right now and instead of learning not to complain, people are concocting conspiracy theories and turning on the government for trying to impose common sense rules calling it a violation of their rights. And be damned if they let bill gates implant them with a micro chip in the corona vaccine!

Not all the rules enacted are 'common sense' in quite a number of places.  

34 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

OK - let me rephrase - it was never a lie. Initially the CDC didn't have enough evidence of asymptomatic transmission. So yes they were telling people they didn't need to wear face masks because A) they didn't think it would help and B) they needed the supply for healthcare workers. When evidence that asymptomatic transmission was not only possible but likely, the CDC changed their recommendation to the general public wearing CLOTH face masks where social distancing was difficult. 

bingo on the bolded part. 

35 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I get that health care workers need mask , my point was , there  should have never been a shortage, pandemics are real and a real threat to society.  They dont take up much space. 

We can mobilize 12 super carriers in a blink of a eye, there  should be no reason we dont have basic ,life saving things in storage.

this is correct. And what no one has really talked about except some of the ER nurses I worked with is--- thank GOD this wasnt an airborne virus because if you think we were unprepared for this... you cant even imagine the shortage of that equipment we have. If this was a catastrophic event then there is no word for what this would have been had it been something airborne. 

20 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

One last thing on mask , so the government lied to us ,so the health care workers could have a mask ,to treat the people who have the virus, because they were lied to ,and never wore a mask?

That is why this country is in the mess we're in , decisions based on backwards logic.

But your logic is flawed, because there is no causality between not having a mask and getting the virus. 

13 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I'm responding to Hazeltoneagle, I dont agree with  said logic. I think we just weren't prepared for this ,and the administration did not want to admit the problem , because might add to already booming deficits, might lead to 40 million Americans being unemployed,  and might not be beneficial come November 3rd , that is just my humble opinion. 

you can be correct, while I am also correct.

It may have been  mismanaged at the government level, while they also lied to keep people from hoarding all the masks from healthcare workers who needed to be prioritized for PPE. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not all the rules enacted are 'common sense' in quite a number of places.  

Sadly true.

And now there are rules that truly dont make any kind of sense. Last night I read how when PA lake/beaches re-open masks must be worn on the beach but not in the water. 

 

Listen, I'm not worried about a emt or a paramedic coming down with virus, again their life means no more than any other person.

But I dont agree with the logic  they did it for health care workers.  Nonsense, administration was caught with pants down and ,had incompetence making  decisions. 

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

Listen, I'm not worried about a emt or a paramedic coming down with virus, again their life means no more than any other person.

But I dont agree with the logic, they did it for health care workers.  Nonsense, administration was caught with pants down and ,had incompetence making  decisions. 

Ok. Well I have no more to say on this then. Parting question for you to ponder.

So, why do you think healthcare workers were wearing them while they told the public they didnt need them?

So, did y'all hear the Eagles drafted Jalen Hurts?

Because administration dropped the ball , I thought I made myself clear on that.

We're not dealing with the sharpest knife, in the white house. 

Here's a nice breakdown on Trevor Williams.

Obviously injuries are an issue, but if he stays healthy, I think he has a chance to not only make the roster, but push for a starting job. Also, he doesn't seem to have any chronic issues, but more hard luck injuries, and may have gotten hurt last year trying to rush back.

When you look at the Eagles, they need some things to go right for the defense to start playing well. Slay needs to be really good in our system. The dline needs to stay healthy/play at the level that reflects how much they are getting paid. Two linebackers have to emerge to give us at least competent play at the position. One of Mills/Wallace/Parks has to adequately replace Jenkins. And, perhaps most importantly, someone has to give us decent play at the CB2 spot.

When you look at this kid, he has the ability to get the job done. And if he stays healthy, it could give us the first decent cornerback combo we have had around these parts since, well, it's been a long time.  

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Here's a nice breakdown on Trevor Williams.

Obviously injuries are an issue, but if he stays healthy, I think he has a chance to not only make the roster, but push for a starting job. Also, he doesn't seem to have any chronic issues, but more hard luck injuries, and may have gotten hurt last year trying to rush back.

When you look at the Eagles, they need some things to go right for the defense to start playing well. Slay needs to be really good in our system. The dline needs to stay healthy/play at the level that reflects how much they are getting paid. Two linebackers have to emerge to give us at least competent play at the position. One of Mills/Wallace/Parks has to adequately replace Jenkins. And, perhaps most importantly, someone has to give us decent play at the CB2 spot.

When you look at this kid, he has the ability to get the job done. And if he stays healthy, it could give us the first decent cornerback combo we have had around these parts since, well, it's been a long time.  

Ive been hoping hes as advertised and stays healthy. Because if he is, then we are really set at CB. If hes not then we are really screwed. 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not sure if hardship is a cure anymore. Id say the country is experiencing one right now and instead of learning not to complain, people are concocting conspiracy theories and turning on the government for trying to impose common sense rules calling it a violation of their rights. And be damned if they let bill gates implant them with a micro chip in the corona vaccine!

You might be right. I think the "spoiling" has made it seem that life should be good all the time and when it's not somebody else's to blame.

7 hours ago, Nivraga said:

Not likely. The North was essentially fighting with one hand behind it's back. Losing at Gettysburg would probably have prompted the untying of the other hand. I'm not a historian but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Not sure I agree with that. As JR pointed out, the election of 1864 was close and the draft riots in NY in the late summer and fall of 1863 were significant. There is some feeling that a victory on Union soil would have possibly turned the tide in the North towards seeking a peace.  

lol, Beast don't pull no punches.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ive been hoping hes as advertised and stays healthy. Because if he is, then we are really set at CB. If hes not then we are really screwed. 

Yep.  One of those under the radar signings because of when he was added.  I was already feeling good about how any CB2 was going to benefit from Slay on the other side.  This guy has legit talent and isn't a tweener.  Stability at those 2 spots will open up Schwartz to do tons of stuff with the safety's and nickel backs (pun intended).

7 hours ago, justrelax said:

One of the most enjoyable history books I've ever read is Arguing About Slavery: John Quincy Adams and the Great Battle in the United States Congress, by William Lee Miller. I can only describe it as rollicking. Much of it is taken from the Congressional Record and one of the quotes from J. Q. Adams predicts that the president would use his war powers to abolish slavery in the event of a civil war. His argument was used some 20 years later, in 1862, by William Whiting, who held the same seat in Congress that Adams had held, and who wrote The War Powers of the President and the Legislative Powers of Congress in Relation to Rebellion, Treason, and Slavery. This was the Constitutional argument in support of the Emancipation Proclamation.

Just ordered. 

 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Just ordered. 

 

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3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not sure if hardship is a cure anymore. Id say the country is experiencing one right now and instead of learning not to complain, people are concocting conspiracy theories and turning on the government for trying to impose common sense rules calling it a violation of their rights. And be damned if they let bill gates implant them with a micro chip in the corona vaccine!

You need generational hardship. One off hardship is an exception to the rule, something to be viewed as an outlier to the norm. Mindsets change when people live the majority of their lives in hardship and life is viewed through a a terrible prism.

COVID doesn’t even approach hard times. Yeah, a lot of old people have died, but most people are basically just bored sitting at home getting fat. If anything, I fear it has made people worse. Everything is delivered to their door. The only "hardship” for most people is not being able to go to bars and restaurants.

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Not recognizing the secession isn't really the issue.  The President's war powers are what come in to play.  Congress authorized the President to prosecute a war against the Southern states.  So the President clearly had authority to make the proclamation under the War Powers Act.  

Not to nitpick but for clarification for other readers.  The War Powers Act currently under scrutiny is a Vietnam Nam era device.  The First War Powers Act that became famous for the retooling of industries in WWII was passed in 1941.  I believe you are referring to the body of law under the war powers outlined in the Constitution.  Those were fluid and subject to interpretation and still are, for example, the attempt to suspend habeas corpus by Lincoln, Wilson’s Sedition Act of 1918, FDR’s interment of Japanese immigrants and citizens of Japanese descent, etc.  

4 hours ago, greend said:

Never been to college, I am a conservative for the record. I don't need college to tell me that it's wrong to choke a guy to death that is already in restraints, that I shouldn't riot or steal from business owners in retaliation for things that the police did , I wear a mask in public where I supposed to and can't figure out how that is a "violation of my rights" when I'm wearing it to protect others and consider it one of the least political thing about this whole damn virus.I know that hating people on skin color or for any reason is wrong. It's not education or the lack thereof it's pretty much an "I don't care about anyone else just me"attitude. I would go into the reasons why I think some of society feels that way but I will keep that debate out of the blog.

But I do hate the Cowboys

Yup. 

4 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I don't know.  It seems people have complained about things for a long long time.  Like for as long as there have been things, people have complained about them.  

Isn’t that part of marriage?

23 minutes ago, TEW said:

You need generational hardship. One off hardship is an exception to the rule, something to be viewed as an outlier to the norm. Mindsets change when people live the majority of their lives in hardship and life is viewed through a a terrible prism.

COVID doesn’t even approach hard times. Yeah, a lot of old people have died, but most people are basically just bored sitting at home getting fat. If anything, I fear it has made people worse. Everything is delivered to their door. The only "hardship” for most people is not being able to go to bars and restaurants.

And losing jobs...

32 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Just ordered. 

 

I’ve loaned this book twice and both times they returned the book within a week, saying "I’ve got to have this book.” It’s a hoot, and great history too.

4 hours ago, greend said:

Want to know what cures some of that? Going through hardships. We've had it good for a long time in America regardless of who's in power. For the most part people are well taken care of here so it causes people to knit pick some. I think we're spoiled. My grandparents and parents went through the depression they hardly ever ****ed about anything. And the spoiling honestly started with my generation (Just past Vietnam war and nothing since that hasn't been volunteer to do my dirty work) I've had it pretty good in my 58 years.

Those of us in the Wonder Years generation did pretty well.  My folks grew up in the Depression and then Liberty Gardens and rationing in WWII with War Bonds. (Imagine Covid 19 bonds to help with relief efforts and how that would go,over today.)  But they did real well in the boom years as well.  We were brought up to be a bit frugal.  If it ain’t broke, don’t replace it.   Is it really worth that?  My wife would tell you that I still have a bit of that grocery store clerk (worked my way through college) in me that figures how many hours of work that items costs.   My Dad would say that we were poor but everyone else was poor so we didn’t know any different.  But there are a lot of people facing hardship today.  I have been writing monthly checks to the two local food banks since early March because of that. I look at it as my Covid 19 war bond purchases